[GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

swicked wrote:

Ironmonger wrote:From what I've heard and partly read, the marines are usually in the thick of it and their training is a bit more harsh. We have a healthy chance of getting stationed on a military base somewhere rather than active combat though it's always a risk. Biggest fear is snipers.

Ah, so you're hoping for an "exciting job", not an EXCITING job XD

Mister Frost wrote:One thing we have going for us is that we aren't going in wanting to be "badass" or any infantile delusions some people have upon joining the military, we're ready to do our jobs and be a part of a team

Also, a lot of wartime psychological trauma is due to being forced to kill, and call me a sociopath but that doesn't bother me.

As for our duty stations, to be honest I'm rather hoping for an active station. I'd rather die young and fighting than spend my career on a base

swicked wrote:
A lot of the stories I've heard more involved IEDs, actually.

Ironmonger wrote: the only modern armies that we would likely face is China and they still use recycled stuff from the 80's, not to mention we have much more naval and air support than they do.

Ketchup wrote:
The Abrams is from the 80s and is still considered one of the best tanks in the world. China has some top-notch gear and a much larger standing strength. Neither side could invade the other, as we've discussed in Adder's TS server, because the defender would always win. Don't underestimate them.

Ironmonger wrote:
Abrams is from the 80's, yes, but we've been improving it constantly and we have the largest military expenditure of any country. China could pull a Stalin on us and use their numbers so you are right there. The Soviets had some relatively crappy (but reliable) technology and they were one of if not the most dangerous world power for a long time.

Cptadder wrote:

O. Hinds wrote:
So you think that they'd be better off putting in the extra production lines and metal supplies needed and just make two (four, if the normal/AP distinction is included) different designs of bullets?

Do they have access to plastic? You can make pure blast grenades out of several types of plastic or very thin metal which are great offensive grenades since they rely on the pure blast effect rather than shrapnel which means you can use them much closer to you than a standard fragmentation grenade. The lethality cone of a standard grenade is eight meters with the base plate lethal out to 15 meters but a pure blast grenade is lethal inside three meters only but is still effective (Loud bang, lots of dust) in an entire room in enclosed spaces. Putting aside plastics it's quite possible to cast pure blast grenades out of easy to make clay, in fact the first grenades were clay and you don't need to make it the burning fuse type seen in old Batman serials, you could rig any one of a number of traditional pull and throw types. The Japanese were pioneers in this during the lead up to the presumed invasion of Japan finding all sorts of interesting things to cast grenades into including old tin cans (Something you can already do in Fallout), wooden boxes and very nasty low yield bamboo bombs.

As Bullets don't need to be solid slug to save metal you can use a alternative less war useful material like again some kinds of plastic or good old lead, brass or several other types. Or just go hollowpoint in mass and reduce the amount of material per bullet by a good 40%.

Ironmonger wrote:
I have a few links on military statistics of USA ,Russia , and China as of 2011.

Glad we have a good topic going!

OneMoreDaySK wrote:Bah, can't think of how to make FO:E cast, so instead I'm going to add y'all to my XCOM team. Any classes, genders, and playstyles you want in particular? Also have no idea, but I've gotten a whole lot of female characters instead of guys. O.o

OneMoreDaySK wrote:Playing XCOM:EU and wanting to name some characters after FO:E universe characters. Any suggestions for single name characters and possible nicknames? <br><br>Right now I have Blackjack 'Security' Starmaiden. Really bad at this naming thing. =.=

Katarn wrote:Sorry if I'm late with this, but IIRC, you've discussed pony guns earlier..maybe few pages earlier.<br>How do you like this concept?<br>

Spoiler:

Ironmonger wrote:Quick question: Does any FoE story, original or side-fic, make a mention of griffon power armor? I have a bit of an idea-ball rolling for my fic.

OneMoreDaySK wrote:Bah, can't think of how to make FO:E cast, so instead I'm going to add y'all to my XCOM team. Any classes, genders, and playstyles you want in particular? Also have no idea, but I've gotten a whole lot of female characters instead of guys. O.o

O. Hinds wrote:
Hm... They might be able to make plastic from plants and stuff harvested from the sea, though the high volumes of petroleum industry come later.

So do you think that plastic-shelled explosive bullets would be the best idea for standard issue, or would some other design, such as nonmetal-filled kinetic penetrators, be better?

Actually, now you've gotten me thinking: could the cartridges be made out of plastic as well?

UK Learning wrote:The first truly synthetic plastic was invented by Leo Baekeland - a Belgium chemist living in New York. Baekeland was already very rich as he had invented the first commercially successful photographic paper and sold it to George Eastman in 1898 for $1 million. With such money, Baekeland could engage himself in whatever research he decided to do.

In 1905, he found that when he combined formaldehyde and phenol, he produced a material that bound all types of powders together. He called this material Bakelite - after himself - and it was the first thermosetting plastic in the world. This was a material that once it set hard would not soften under heat. It had so many uses and so many potential uses, that it was called "the material of a thousand uses".

Bakelite was water and solvent resistant; could be used as an electrical insulator; was rock hard but could be cut by a knife and was used in 78 rpm records and telephones.

New plastics were invented such as neoprene in 1932, polythene in 1933 and Perspex in 1934. One of the most famous wholly synthetic fibres was invented in 1938 at the cost of $10 million - nylon. In the first year of its creation, nylon went into toothbrush bristles and nylon stockings. 64 million pairs of stockings were made in 1938 alone. Nylon was also used by the military in World War Two for gearing wheels in vehicles and parachute cords.

Plastic as a whole was very important in World War Two. ‘Plane cockpits were made of Perspex, polythene was used in insulate radar and plastic was used to make synthetic rubber for tyres.

Cptadder wrote:Stuff

Kattlarv wrote:
And now we play the waiting game for proofreading x3 Still gotta deal with finding ones for the random short one and the Xanthe+Stealth suit clop though hehe.