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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by tylertoon2 on Sun Nov 04, 2012 2:04 am

OneMoreDaySK wrote:Bah, can't think of how to make FO:E cast, so instead I'm going to add y'all to my XCOM team. Any classes, genders, and playstyles you want in particular? Also have no idea, but I've gotten a whole lot of female characters instead of guys. O.o

I'd like to be support if possible. Just stayin behind cover and helpin fools out. Or Sneaking around and flanking from behind.
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Post by SilentCarto on Sun Nov 04, 2012 3:12 am

OneMoreDaySK wrote:Playing XCOM:EU and wanting to name some characters after FO:E universe characters. Any suggestions for single name characters and possible nicknames? <br><br>Right now I have Blackjack 'Security' Starmaiden. Really bad at this naming thing. =.=
<br>Like Featherdust said, I gave them semi-reasonable human names and put their pony names in their nickname spot. I generally left the last name alone unless there was a reason to change it.<br><br>Lily "Pip" Piper (Sniper)<br>Velvet "Remedy" Monroe (Support)<br>Adam "Steel" Hoover (Heavy)<br>G.F. "Blackjack" Morgan (Assault)<br>Peter "21" Smith (Support)<br>Ruth "Rampage" Loste (Assault)<br><br>and so on. I also try to set their appearance, voice, and armor coloration to match their ponysona. i.e. Steel is in green armor with a helmet, Pip wears a bright blue uniform with yellow highlights, BJ has bright red hair, etc. I think it goes a long way toward making them look really interesting, as opposed to the samey appearances the RNG creates. (It runs on a subset of the available options, so you'll never get a newb with blue hair.)<br>And then my computer broke and it's still in the shop waiting for a new power jack. <img src="http://r20.imgfast.net/users/2516/12/35/12/smiles/4206338362.png" smilieid="17" border="0"><br><br>
Katarn wrote:Sorry if I'm late with this, but IIRC, you've discussed pony guns earlier..maybe few pages earlier.<br>How do you like this concept?<br>
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<br>That's a really cool design! It needs a stud on the slide so the user can cock it with a hoof, and it still needs a rear sight of some kind because your jaw is mobile, but the overall structure looks good to me.<br><br>
Ironmonger wrote:Quick question: Does any FoE story, original or side-fic, make a mention of griffon power armor? I have a bit of an idea-ball rolling for my fic.
<br>Yup! Blackwing's bunch wore them, especially Butcher (the one carrying Little Gilda). They're not as protective as earth pony power armor, but provide more strength boosts than Enclave armor. <br><br>
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<br>I'm a sniper whore. <img src="http://r20.imgfast.net/users/2516/12/35/12/smiles/761398768.png" smilieid="28" border="0">
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Frost on Sun Nov 04, 2012 3:31 am

Also, in Fallout and FoE, is there an in-universe reason that we don't see more of guns like the Sten or Blyskawica? People were making them in their tool sheds, it would be easy for a Wastelander with decent mechanical knowledge to make something as good or better
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Post by Ketchup on Sun Nov 04, 2012 9:18 am

I think I just goofed up on trying to fix XCOM for XP. At least it didn't just not open and give no signs, it said "Unspecified Error". Really helpful. Now I need to install it again.
Edit: IT LIVES!
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Cptadder on Sun Nov 04, 2012 11:12 am

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Hm... They might be able to make plastic from plants and stuff harvested from the sea, though the high volumes of petroleum industry come later.

So do you think that plastic-shelled explosive bullets would be the best idea for standard issue, or would some other design, such as nonmetal-filled kinetic penetrators, be better?

Actually, now you've gotten me thinking: could the cartridges be made out of plastic as well?
Funny enough I was just looking at early Plastics, Search Bakelite which is a early pre 1900 plastic which is used among other things to produce gun magazines, pistol and rifle grips but not bullets themselves to quote a UK learning website

UK Learning wrote:The first truly synthetic plastic was invented by Leo Baekeland - a Belgium chemist living in New York. Baekeland was already very rich as he had invented the first commercially successful photographic paper and sold it to George Eastman in 1898 for $1 million. With such money, Baekeland could engage himself in whatever research he decided to do.

In 1905, he found that when he combined formaldehyde and phenol, he produced a material that bound all types of powders together. He called this material Bakelite - after himself - and it was the first thermosetting plastic in the world. This was a material that once it set hard would not soften under heat. It had so many uses and so many potential uses, that it was called "the material of a thousand uses".

Bakelite was water and solvent resistant; could be used as an electrical insulator; was rock hard but could be cut by a knife and was used in 78 rpm records and telephones.

New plastics were invented such as neoprene in 1932, polythene in 1933 and Perspex in 1934. One of the most famous wholly synthetic fibres was invented in 1938 at the cost of $10 million - nylon. In the first year of its creation, nylon went into toothbrush bristles and nylon stockings. 64 million pairs of stockings were made in 1938 alone. Nylon was also used by the military in World War Two for gearing wheels in vehicles and parachute cords.

Plastic as a whole was very important in World War Two. ‘Plane cockpits were made of Perspex, polythene was used in insulate radar and plastic was used to make synthetic rubber for tyres.

Phenol is a natural byproduct of some kinds of coal refinement and can be easily sifted from coal tar and formaldehyde can be harvested a few different ways the most common involves reacting methane so your talking about something they could easily produce with a coal field and natural gas spring nearby. And it lets you construct a good 50% of the gun out of plastics, everything from the grip and magazines to the trigger guards and outer housing fixture with only the bolt and barrel itself requiring metal.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Ironmonger on Sun Nov 04, 2012 11:21 am

Cptadder wrote:Stuff


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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Frost on Sun Nov 04, 2012 12:19 pm

Ah, yes. Those are the things that aren't metal or wood, right?

In all seriousness, only know about plastic in relation to polymers in firearms. Some of the old-timers in the shooting community don't like it, but anyone who knows what they're talking about knows that, for components like the receiver/frame andfurniture like the stock and handguard it's superior to metal or wood


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Post by Admiral Stoic Rum on Sun Nov 04, 2012 12:22 pm

Oh if you wanna make me something you can make me a sniper....
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Kattlarv on Sun Nov 04, 2012 1:32 pm

@Iron: I may not be a chemist, but I can tell you that I am highly unstable :D

@Swicked: I made a bad Skyrim reference with that security thing :P

Also, NOW I finally managed to slap enough duct tape on the fic to call it the day xD
And now we play the waiting game for proofreading x3 Still gotta deal with finding ones for the random short one and the Xanthe+Stealth suit clop though hehe.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Cptadder on Sun Nov 04, 2012 1:36 pm

Kattlarv wrote:
And now we play the waiting game for proofreading x3 Still gotta deal with finding ones for the random short one and the Xanthe+Stealth suit clop though hehe.
Who proof reads Kattlarv fics? How did that relationship come about? Was there bribery, subversion or simple blackmail?

Or did some brave soul volunteer?

Was it the same person who proof read Abdul Alhazred's first book?
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Valikdu on Sun Nov 04, 2012 3:44 pm

Nothing happened for several hours. I'm bored.



Also, I'm almost at the end of the vanilla creatures list of DF. Now everything has tainted versions, like the aforementioned skinless giant kiwi.


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Post by Guarddogjr on Sun Nov 04, 2012 3:45 pm

Found a picture of P-21
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Post by Caoimhe on Sun Nov 04, 2012 4:00 pm

Damn, that's good. Collar with grenades is a nice touch, surprised we haven't seen that before
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Post by RoboRed on Sun Nov 04, 2012 4:01 pm

@OneMoreDaySK:(XCOM) I wanna have a snipper riffle. Applebloom

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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Ironmonger on Sun Nov 04, 2012 4:05 pm

RoboRed wrote:@OneMoreDaySK:(XCOM) I wanna have a snipper riffle. Applebloom

So during the battle you can rifle and after you can loot. Derpy Hooves

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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by O. Hinds on Sun Nov 04, 2012 4:09 pm

Cptadder wrote:
O. Hinds wrote:
Hm... They might be able to make plastic from plants and stuff harvested from the sea, though the high volumes of petroleum industry come later.

So do you think that plastic-shelled explosive bullets would be the best idea for standard issue, or would some other design, such as nonmetal-filled kinetic penetrators, be better?

Actually, now you've gotten me thinking: could the cartridges be made out of plastic as well?
Funny enough I was just looking at early Plastics, Search Bakelite which is a early pre 1900 plastic which is used among other things to produce gun magazines, pistol and rifle grips but not bullets themselves to quote a UK learning website

UK Learning wrote:The first truly synthetic plastic was invented by Leo Baekeland - a Belgium chemist living in New York. Baekeland was already very rich as he had invented the first commercially successful photographic paper and sold it to George Eastman in 1898 for $1 million. With such money, Baekeland could engage himself in whatever research he decided to do.

In 1905, he found that when he combined formaldehyde and phenol, he produced a material that bound all types of powders together. He called this material Bakelite - after himself - and it was the first thermosetting plastic in the world. This was a material that once it set hard would not soften under heat. It had so many uses and so many potential uses, that it was called "the material of a thousand uses".

Bakelite was water and solvent resistant; could be used as an electrical insulator; was rock hard but could be cut by a knife and was used in 78 rpm records and telephones.

New plastics were invented such as neoprene in 1932, polythene in 1933 and Perspex in 1934. One of the most famous wholly synthetic fibres was invented in 1938 at the cost of $10 million - nylon. In the first year of its creation, nylon went into toothbrush bristles and nylon stockings. 64 million pairs of stockings were made in 1938 alone. Nylon was also used by the military in World War Two for gearing wheels in vehicles and parachute cords.

Plastic as a whole was very important in World War Two. ‘Plane cockpits were made of Perspex, polythene was used in insulate radar and plastic was used to make synthetic rubber for tyres.

Phenol is a natural byproduct of some kinds of coal refinement and can be easily sifted from coal tar and formaldehyde can be harvested a few different ways the most common involves reacting methane so your talking about something they could easily produce with a coal field and natural gas spring nearby. And it lets you construct a good 50% of the gun out of plastics, everything from the grip and magazines to the trigger guards and outer housing fixture with only the bolt and barrel itself requiring metal.
Well, they don't have that in the early days of Masozi, but that sort of thing is likely how Zebra plastic production began.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Ironmonger on Sun Nov 04, 2012 4:45 pm

Monsters 'n shit.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Valikdu on Sun Nov 04, 2012 5:21 pm

Ironmonger wrote:Monsters 'n shit.
Spoiler:

So I just got the idea to make a "creeping doom" creature, with multiple castes that represent the giant bugs that you drew, and a large clustersize.
Don't know why it didn't hit me before... or why does Dwarf Fortress not have giant ants by default [it has ant-men though, which are now ant-ponies]... but there will be giant ants now.

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Post by Ironmonger on Sun Nov 04, 2012 5:26 pm

I didn't draw that stuff, just a thing from deviantart. I stopped drawing a long time ago because I have vision problems as it is, and it only gets worse when I draw. When I'm staring at sheet of paper during drawing my vision starts to fade out a bit, by the time I'm done I'm half blind. That's why I want to get into vectoring.

EDIT: I have an idea for a small faction, the Greasers. Their armor mimics the appearance of Spartan Hoplites to an extent and they have access to some vehicles. Most of their weaponry is very simple but reliable. Their weapon designs can usually be identified by folding stocks intended to be used while in a vehicle or other cramped interior.

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Post by Stringtheory on Sun Nov 04, 2012 7:12 pm

guarddogjr wrote:Found a picture of P-21
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what's the source?
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Post by Admiral Stoic Rum on Sun Nov 04, 2012 7:53 pm

Oh great news, I went and got to help feed Tracy's herd, it was not bad, I'm still figuring out the way to set the halter. Anyway, fed the girls, and the bull, and the steer. the bull was okay when we were feeding him, then when it came time to move all the girls out of the feeding pens, Tracy let the bull out and as I was letting girls out of the side he came out of, he went around to the other side of the pen and was making his way towards me. Panic ensued, then we got him away, went to get the gilrs out the other side... he made his way around again, and at the time I had one of those heifers and tried to put her between me and the bull, she didn't want to, so to get away from the bull, I let the heifer go, not supposed to do that, and Tracy had to chase the bull off.

that was exciting, but I was doing pretty good, also this cattle is Tracy's family's and they don't know me very well. The bull also sees me as both a potential threat to the herd and as another competing male, but is not overtly aggressive towards me in particular as he has hurt Tracy's mom and they are going to be getting rid of him. Still we had to wail on him with dirt clods, ropes, kicks, and at one point a chain (chainl to the hard plate on his head) to get him to back off.

that is what people mean when they say bull headed.

When somber was describing the destruction that Minotaur wrought upon the store, its about right, also their heads are really really hard with a thick skull plate.
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Post by Ironmonger on Sun Nov 04, 2012 8:09 pm

My mom was chased up a silo by a bull once in the distant pass. Damn bull gave her problems for a loooong time.

...What a bunch of bull. Spike

Also more art.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by IncoherentOrange on Sun Nov 04, 2012 8:44 pm

Valikdu wrote:
So I just got the idea to make a "creeping doom" creature, with multiple castes that represent the giant bugs that you drew, and a large clustersize.
Don't know why it didn't hit me before... or why does Dwarf Fortress not have giant ants by default [it has ant-men though, which are now ant-ponies]... but there will be giant ants now.

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Post by Kattlarv on Sun Nov 04, 2012 9:49 pm

@Cpt: Well, the last guy that did, we actually haven't heard from in over a month... and bleh... even if I know it was just a "offer", I still wonder how that imagine would have looked that one offered to do for my Soarin fic... might be due to my awful social skills I scared them away xP

@Robo: So you can take cheap pot shots at people from a safe distance while you sit and hide? Don't you already do that on the forums? x3

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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Ironmonger on Sun Nov 04, 2012 10:02 pm

Kattlarv wrote:Rant of Awesome

THIS. ALL OF THIS. I see some of this stuff in some FoE fics as well.

Kattlarv wrote:
@Robo: So you can take cheap pot shots at people from a safe distance while you sit and hide? Don't you already do that on the forums? x3

He must be using surplus ammo. Big mac

Anyone else find the FO:E Side Stories google doc instructions confusing as fucking hell? How

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Post by OneMoreDaySK on Sun Nov 04, 2012 10:42 pm

@StringTheory
Google is your friend

@Kim
Ain't that the usual problem about adult material? That the majority just turn out generic dumb stuff? I mean a lot of fanservice does that as well. One time a buddy of mine wanted to shock me by showing me some... female art posing in very... skimpy clothing, but all I did was point out the absurdity of the posture. I mean come on! How does one bend their back and still live? Or where are all of that girl's organs?
Edit: I seem to be more commenting on aesthetics than characters. Character wise characters are usually bent and smashed into whatever mold the generic story needs. T'is why I got really bored with manga in general.
/rant_response


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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by RoboRed on Sun Nov 04, 2012 10:54 pm

Kattlarv wrote:@Robo: So you can take cheap pot shots at people from a safe distance while you sit and hide? Don't you already do that on the forums? x3
You bet your sweet bippy, I do! Crazy

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Mister Frost's friend, "Darren" wrote:"I'm scared to break up with her, though. Her dad's an ex-marine; if I make her cry he'll club me over the head with a pillowcase full of doorknobs and Tom Clancy novels."

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Post by Ironmonger on Sun Nov 04, 2012 11:06 pm

RoboRed wrote:*Video*

And that children is what happens to Admins.

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Post by CamoBadger on Sun Nov 04, 2012 11:12 pm

Ironmonger wrote:
RoboRed wrote:*Video*

And that children is what happens to Admins.


Is that so?

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Post by Caoimhe on Sun Nov 04, 2012 11:13 pm

I agree with the Kattsesment of the fandom. There's a lot of stuff I notice that's like "here's my baddass pony with COOL UNIQUE CLOTHES MY OC DO NOT STEAL" and that's the end of it, or two dimensional personalities ie "This one is mean terrible villian and this one is a slut, go hog wild." Yeesh.
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