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Post by Icy Shake on Mon May 02, 2016 10:02 am

I'm right with SilentCarto on Scotch Tape, though I'm hoping that after the year's time skip she'll at least be a bit better at keeping some of her opinions on the spirit/general zebra stuff to herself, even if she's not seen enough in that time (being kind of shut up in one place) to really buy into it.

My other is Pythia, whose sense of humor and general put-upon attitude just work for me. Add to that how she's the one with a real, definite goal and the development of weird stuff going on (Scotch too, of course), and that goes a long way.

I like when Majina gets to do her Zencori thing or be silly (like on the ship when Scotch was trying to work), and the direction she's taken in the last chapter, but I've tended to get annoyed with her for the same reasons that Pythia did.

It feels like Precious has tended to have less focus on her, and didn't get much chance to shine until the big car chase a chapter back. But she might also be the most grounded of the lot, apart from her self-assessment regarding her durability.
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Post by Valikdu on Mon May 02, 2016 6:04 pm

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Post by Somber on Mon May 02, 2016 9:35 pm

That is so cool!  I've met the BJ player and I love the glory player!
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by SilentCarto on Tue May 03, 2016 2:04 pm

Okay, I am completely confused by the Atoli trial in ch. 6. The captain of Abalone who asked for Pythia's help was named Mahealani. Lalahawa was her daughter, Sky Altar. (Edit: I mean Blue Pearl. I can't keep their names straight either, apparently!) Surely you just used the wrong name, right?


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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Icy Shake on Tue May 03, 2016 3:32 pm

SilentCarto wrote:Okay, I am completely confused by the Atoli trial in ch. 6. The captain of Abalone who asked for Pythia's help was named Mahealani. Lalahawa was her daughter, Sky Altar. Surely you just used the wrong name, right?
. . . Looks that way.

Random question: does anyone remember about when Stygius became PH's Flash-Sentry-before-Flash-Sentry-existed? Was it right away, or did it take a while? I think I remember it getting more pronounced (if not starting) when he and Whisper left, at least partly because of the prince thing, but maybe from taking her away as well. Anyone else remember it differently?
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Post by Somber on Tue May 03, 2016 4:53 pm

ACK!  Did I seriously fuck that up!  Crap crap crap!
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Post by Kattlarv on Tue May 03, 2016 5:21 pm

@Somber: I have done that, dozens of times. I even coined several genres and created "world's first" in a number of topics.
And people like to point out that I'm a prodigy. Generally in the negative sense. But as of late I'm just totally fizzled due to a number of things.

Anyhow, you were very adamant about how you don't want to fix any of the errors in PH, as you want it to be a reminder for you that you can do better. Which I fully respect. But you know, being told you don't want me to officially correct anything as an editor or the like. That leaves very few alternatives xP And has so far lead to the hit and miss of "just fix the sexual parts, leave the rest the fuck alone, ok? Ps: You only need to mention something once." response of the first draft. I'm apparently terrible at banter and attempting to smooth things out hehe.

Still can't recall what event pushed me to want to make a revised edition. (aside from wanting to be able to finish reading the story) But as said: If I cba, I would fix the two massive blatant flaws of FoE, that people still roll their eyes at to this day. Hm... that prolly come off a bit wrong in terms of implying... what I meant to say is that it's an attempt of admiration/affection to the source. Kinda like a mod for a game. Plus, in PH's case, it's more strune throughout. Not a blatant case of "having the implied mastermind forget the one and only thing their nemesis is capable off" xD

@Silent: Yeah... I should honestly learn to try and just power through things.
Currently being way inefficient.

@EP: That's some pretty neat cosplay... though, have to say they are given very questionable names but... xP
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by SilentCarto on Tue May 03, 2016 6:58 pm

Somber wrote:ACK!  Did I seriously fuck that up!  Crap crap crap!
I wouldn't worry too much, I don't think anyone really noticed or they'd have commented. Unfortunately, she was referred to as "Lala" in at least one spot, which will also need to be corrected.

Incidentally, is "Lani" her bondsister's full name, or is that a nickname? If it's the latter, then we've kinda got at least three of them running around. (Mahealani, Ahulani, and "Lani".) I know it's a common name ending in Hawaiian, though, so it's not necessarily a terrible thing.

While I'm on the subject, I noticed an oddity in chapter 1 where Sky Altar's voice is described as "haunty". I think it's supposed to say "haughty", right?
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Post by O. Hinds on Tue May 03, 2016 7:19 pm

Eek, sorry for missing those!
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by SilentCarto on Tue May 03, 2016 7:46 pm

Valikdu wrote:There was a PH-themed cosplaying group at PonyRadioCon. Actually, I think it was the only real group there (if you don't count the judges: Dixidana and Erinliona)
Those are indeed some awesome costumes! Kinda makes me want to put together a Calamity outfit. (Why Calamity? Because I'm Texan. I've already got the hat.)
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Post by Somber on Tue May 03, 2016 8:44 pm

I'd really like to go to bronycon this year, since I won't be able to make it to EFNW.
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Post by O. Hinds on Wed May 04, 2016 4:16 am

Somber, in case you missed it, the "Lala" SilentCarto pointed out appears to still be there in the FIMFiction chapter:
"“About what happened to your ship, Lala,” a stern-faced mare said."

If you do decide to go to Bronycon, let me know; I've no idea at this point whether it would work out, but we might be able to meet up at a convention again. At the least, Baltimore appears to be only about a two and a half hour ride away on the Northeast Regional (well, after another hour and a half or so on the LIRR).
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OMFG, REALLY?

Post by White_Disaster on Wed May 04, 2016 2:01 pm

Somber wrote:That is so cool!  I've met the BJ player and I love the glory player!

Uuum... Somber, It's BJ player.
That's really you?..
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Post by Somber on Wed May 04, 2016 2:24 pm

yup!  I think we met at Babscon, right?  Or EFNW?  Or is my brain derping?
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Post by Valikdu on Wed May 04, 2016 2:57 pm

The DerpFest teleconference thing in November.
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Post by White_Disaster on Wed May 04, 2016 3:20 pm

Somber wrote:yup!  I think we met at Babscon, right?  Or EFNW?  Or is my brain derping?

Nah, sorrily we haven't met and it's not gonna happen.
I'm a student, I'm in Russia, I don't have money to go abroad :T
Skype conerence at DerpFest can be the only way)
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Post by Somber on Wed May 04, 2016 4:41 pm

Ahhh.  My apologies then.  Still, love the cosplay!
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Post by SilentCarto on Wed May 04, 2016 7:10 pm

White_Disaster wrote:Nah, sorrily we haven't met and it's not gonna happen.
I'm a student, I'm in Russia, I don't have money to go abroad :T
Skype conerence at DerpFest can be the only way)
Oh! I feel stupid now for not looking up where PonyRadioCon is held. I'd been vaguely wondering how the costumes could all include realistic weapons -- cons in the US (and a lot of Europe, I think) tend to get really twitchy about that sort of thing.
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Post by White_Disaster on Thu May 05, 2016 8:28 am

SilentCarto wrote:
White_Disaster wrote:Nah, sorrily we haven't met and it's not gonna happen.
I'm a student, I'm in Russia, I don't have money to go abroad :T
Skype conerence at DerpFest can be the only way)
Oh! I feel stupid now for not looking up where PonyRadioCon is held. I'd been vaguely wondering how the costumes could all include realistic weapons -- cons in the US (and a lot of Europe, I think) tend to get really twitchy about that sort of thing.
As for us it's a very twitchy thing too, we weren't allowed to carry out guns from photo zone.
As for all visitors: it's allowed to bring non-combat realistic models of weapons, for example airsoft ones, with mags not loaded and without accums/gas. Also people had to register their guns online sending photos of them to security.
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Post by SilentCarto on Mon May 09, 2016 7:37 pm

Commentary time! (Crossposted from FimFiction for your benefit. Yes, you. No, not him... that's right.) Criminally late, I know...
Homelands Ch. 6 Commentary:

The vote wasn’t even close.  Kraken and Maelstrom stared at Tsunami as if sharpening their knives.  Others, ones who hadn’t suffered as heavy losses, seemed to be taking her speech to heart, nodding thoughtfully.
Sigh... gonna completely ignore that a good bit of that treasure came from your own people, huh?
Morons.

“But if the swamp can’t see us, does it know us?  Does it understand what we do?  What we feel?  Why we be how we be?”
It sounds like 'blinding the eye of the world' is kind of like Avatar Wan cutting off the physical world from the spirit world.

She helped the victims get on their hooves, asking the nearby willows to ease their pain a little.
Neat!

It would take years of brutality to equal the spiritual toxicity of a deliberate, callous murder.
I don't think I want to see Shattered Hoof Ridge through the eyes of a shaman.

Osane just shrugged and said that, so long as she didn’t have to raise the offspring, she didn’t care.

Like it wasn’t a problem.
It's kind of funny to think of Majina as the team prude... relatively speaking, anyway.

“Three threes and…”  She paused, frowned as she looked at the stacks.  “I need two more coins.”
LOL, dragon counting.

Mostly a bunch of walking and growling and occasionally biting butts.
Ah, Precious. A natural-born thug if ever there was one. (Erm... unnatural-born? You know what I mean!)

“No.  Just mistaken,” he rumbled.
I have to wonder if all Achu are given to this laconic style, like Spartans, or if it's just him.

“Either you are strong, or you aren’t.  No amount of work will make a weak zebra strong.  I can only make a strong zebra strong.”

“But…”  Her brain popped a fuse there.  “What is all this for, then?”  He had to be the worst gym owner ever!

“Fitness.  Muscle mass.”  He gave a little shrug.  “None of it’s ever made a weak zebra stronger than they are.  But it pays the bills.”
Interesting philosophy. I'm liking him immediately, of course, but it's interesting to see how he tries to out-willpower others rather than out-muscle them.

“We don’t have many Zencori here.  Pleasure to meet you, Merjina.”

“Wonderful.  Wonderful.  Everything is wonderful.  Gang.  Majajina.”
Now I'm wondering what these close-but-not-quite names might mean.

“Eeee,” she cried out in glee.  “I have a mentor who’ll train me and make me stronger and not be the damsel in distress anymore!” she said, then blinked a moment later, glancing behind her in worry.  “I hope he doesn’t die.”
I guess Zencori tend to wind up kind of genre-savvy, huh?

The ‘Iron Legion’ members marked their faces with a brand made from a hot I-beam pressed twice against the zebras’ foreheads or the griffons’ haunches, forming a cross.

“Colonel Adolpha. Make it quick.”
Not that we're building a theme here or anything.

The bag had a combination lock on the clasp, and the heavy hide had been scratched by claws or knives, but it took more than that to breach dragonhide.
Huh... yeah, that makes sense, but I'd never thought of a doctor's bag as something that had to be built like a vault.

The Applelosian trail was a big stretch of winding nothing stretching from the south up to New Appleloosa.
Whosawhat?

“Probably not, Bob,” Lucy muttered.
It would be funny if Lucy was the male head (Lucius) and Bob was the female (Roberta).

That flower sprouting in the middle of the trail definitely didn’t belong.
Howdy! I'm FLOWEY! FLOWEY the FLOWER!
Hee hee hee...
You're new to the WASTELAND, aren'tcha?

“Look,” Brick said excitedly as he pointed out to the side where a delicate bell of green and white sprouted before their eyes.  “Pretty!” he laughed, stomping his hooves.

“Boss,” Mercy snapped, drawing her beam pistol and pointing it at the foliage sprouting all around them.  “What do I shoot?” she asked as her aim swept from one thing to the next, trying to identify targets.
Run. RUN NOW.

Those same invisible hands ripped into his shoulders and claws, and he watched in horror as they blackened like burnt sticks.
Toldja.

Enough waiting.  A year had been long enough!
Time to find that damned pony and get her moving again.
Okay, interesting... I'd been rather assuming this was someone in the employ of Riptide, but perhaps not?...
But it's only been six months, right? Or is this a year since leaving pony lands?

Homelands Ch. 6 Editing:

Left to right, they meant strength leading to or producing serenity, and right to left, serenity from strength.  She didn’t see how that could be, though.
"Strength leading to serenity" and "serenity from strength" mean the same thing. I recommend breaking first line to say, "Left to right, they meant strength producing serenity, and right to left, serenity leading to strength."
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by White_Disaster on Tue May 10, 2016 10:46 am

Somber wrote:Ahhh.  My apologies then.  Still, love the cosplay!
You may also like this one ^^
My cosplay at RuBronyCon 2015, May 2
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Post by SilentCarto on Wed May 18, 2016 10:52 am

So, just out of curiosity, how did Marigold get down from her rocket without the whole landing pad and airlock arrangement? Did she have to clamber down a ladder?
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Post by Somber on Wed May 18, 2016 11:34 am

... I never thought of that.
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Post by O. Hinds on Wed May 18, 2016 5:14 pm

A ladder, perhaps a lift, I think. Either it was no longer attached by the time Blackjack and friends used the rocket, or she just never noticed; she was pretty preoccupied, after all, and didn't need to use it.
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Post by SilentCarto on Wed May 18, 2016 7:07 pm

A pop-out lift platform on the exterior would work fine, sure. I was just curious if there was intended to be a ramp or an internal elevator or something. I mean, ponies aren't bad at ladders, apparently. Not as good as us apes, but it doesn't seem to inconvenience them too much.
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Post by O. Hinds on Wed May 18, 2016 8:20 pm

Ah, thanks for the clarification.
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Post by SilentCarto on Wed May 18, 2016 11:09 pm

I mean, not that I was asking for any particular reason...

Marigold's... er, Twilight's Moon Mission:


The Rocket
The boosters are probably a bit large, but you gotta do what you gotta do... those are nuclear engines on the main stage, by the way, in keeping with the original.


The Launch
I forgot to take shots of the liftoff. Oh well.


The Pilot
Hey, you're not Marigold! ...eh, close enough.


The Destination
There it is, Twilight. The Moon.
I won't bore you with the maneuvering and landing burns, which look pretty much the same as launch, but with a gray, cratery backdrop.


The End
And here we are! The samples are all loaded up, but Twilight took a minute to get some photos. She looks so happy.
Of course, we're not getting back without the infinite fuel cheat, but that's kind of appropriate too, isn't it?
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Post by O. Hinds on Thu May 19, 2016 3:07 am

Hah, very nice! :D
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Post by Icy Shake on Sun May 29, 2016 3:13 pm

SilentCarto wrote:I mean, not that I was asking for any particular reason...

Marigold's... er, Twilight's Moon Mission:


The Rocket
The boosters are probably a bit large, but you gotta do what you gotta do... those are nuclear engines on the main stage, by the way, in keeping with the original.


The Launch
I forgot to take shots of the liftoff. Oh well.


The Pilot
Hey, you're not Marigold! ...eh, close enough.


The Destination
There it is, Twilight. The Moon.
I won't bore you with the maneuvering and landing burns, which look pretty much the same as launch, but with a gray, cratery backdrop.


The End
And here we are! The samples are all loaded up, but Twilight took a minute to get some photos. She looks so happy.
Of course, we're not getting back without the infinite fuel cheat, but that's kind of appropriate too, isn't it?
Nice project there!

Also, since I haven't said so yet, those cosplays are great.

Question for Somber or anyone else who'd know: have thoughts on the location of the divisions between Book 3 and Book 4 and between Book 4 and Book 5 changed since the story finished/whenever the hub page was last updated?
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Luminous Lead on Tue May 31, 2016 3:45 am

Ha-HA! Homelands 7! Enjoyed the setup and how the spirit worldbuilding was packed in (granted, stories about spirits are radical in and of themselves). 
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Loved the mask-goes-on-mask-goes-off-can-you-tell-the-difference moments too (e.g. anything Shaman-related happens when the mask is off), supporting my working hypothesis that masks shield people from spiritual attention (given spirits are very much put off by falsehoods) and vice-versa (Dealer only visible when mask is removed).

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