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Post by SilentCarto on Sat Nov 03, 2012 10:37 pm


Welcome to the Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion Thread!
This is the place to discuss Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons, a Fallout/MLP:FiM crossover fic by Somber. Story discussion is on the left, group therapy to the right. Please try to schedule your emotional breakdowns when they don't conflict with anyone else's.

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  2. Project Horizons is a grimdark fic which deals with adult topics, so we might discuss subjects that some readers may find uncomfortable. Be mature about it.
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  4. Spoilers abound. If you're not current on the fic, we recommend that you catch up before you read on.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by IncoherentOrange on Sat Nov 03, 2012 10:40 pm

Mister Frost wrote:IRL I favor shotguns, carbines and knives. I know nothing about X-COM

In XCOM, you have four classes, which are:

Assault, which uses shotguns or assault rifles and favor close-quarters and accomodate defensive or critical hit focus.

Heavy, which uses light machine guns and rocket launchers, with abilities that favor either weapon.

Sniper, which uses, of course, sniper rifles, with abilities that focus on their ability to work alone or to support the team.

And Support, which uses assault rifles, with a smoke grenade, and has abilities that focus on that or the Medikit backpack item.

Oh, and OMD-SK, play Ironman mode, so you can kill us off for real!


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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Frost on Sat Nov 03, 2012 10:42 pm

Sounds like I'd be Assault, then
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Post by Ironmonger on Sat Nov 03, 2012 10:46 pm

Assault.

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Post by OneMoreDaySK on Sat Nov 03, 2012 10:47 pm

Two assaults, two shiv. Ironmanning, trying my hardest to keep you all friggin alive. You all will survive, even if I have t'throw redshirt after redshirt into the grinder. Well, at least shivs I can rebuild.
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Post by Ironmonger on Sat Nov 03, 2012 10:51 pm

On Steam.

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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Frost on Sat Nov 03, 2012 10:57 pm

Is there anything like this in X-COM?



That and the ACR are my favorite weapons
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Cptadder on Sat Nov 03, 2012 10:59 pm

O. Hinds wrote:
Ketchup wrote:
O. Hinds wrote:
Cptadder wrote:
Ketchup wrote:
I figured he wanted to give it an explosive that could make a shockwave within the body since, as you say, fragmentation would be useless. To do that, he needs magic. I mentioned 20mm being the start point for useful explosive loadings earlier.
Edit: Oh, and he wanted to save metal. Not sure why he'd need to, a bullet is very small.
So make it a rifle grenade, it's quite easy to mount up to 40mm grenades from any standard 6mm or above rifle and explosives don't need to move fast for infantry use.
A grenade rifle as a military's primary close quarters combat firearm?
I think he meant something like this.
Ah, I see. Still, though, that and a rifle to fire it from does not seem like the ideal general-issue firearm for use inside buildings or cramped shipboard conditions.
They don't require a rifle to fire, it's just that rifles are handy to launch them accurately since you can easily mount the spring leaf pop up ranging sight which you really can't do in pistols and smgs. However they do exist for both pistols and smgs, they are unwieldy however and the lack of being able to brace it against something means they kick like a mule... no pun intended.

Still if you want to use this thing in ships you don't want explosives because that ruins your ability to capture ships intact, as for standard buildings don't you want penetration not explosives with explosives role be handled by grenades?

*Still catching up on the thread fyi.
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Post by Kattlarv on Sat Nov 03, 2012 11:07 pm

@Swicked: So... does this mean you'll have to take a job as a security guard? xP And my back is almost functional, again.

And sorta scrap that last part, some loose sends are still left, said it was finished since I had plans to finish it, but as said... more than one thing messed up ^=^'

@Iron: Come now, this isn't the first time I've seen a reaction like this hehe.

@Cao: Well, I'm not seeing you contribute to derail the thread in another direction. I've already made several bellow the belt comments about your avatar, not endorsed them a single time :P

@OMDSK: Wai not?
And while it is a tad bit flat, they have quite a dozen of innovative things in it.

@EP: Again: Mutant Chronicles. It pleases slagathor, Bauhaus FTW!
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Ironmonger on Sat Nov 03, 2012 11:11 pm

Kattlarv wrote:
@Iron: Come now, this isn't the first time I've seen a reaction like this hehe.

I didn't know you were a chemist. Spike

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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by IncoherentOrange on Sat Nov 03, 2012 11:13 pm

Mister Frost wrote:Is there anything like this in X-COM?
*image*

That and the ACR are my favorite weapons

Spoiler:
There is an assault rifle:


But you'll definitely want a Light Plasma Rifle or Plasma Rifle:





If you want your character to, y'know, live. Your other option to start is this, at the start of the game:



Later on, OMD will likely develop the Alloy Cannon, which shoots high-velocity shards of UFOs at your enemies:



The game has a straight progression from a set of conventional weapons to a set of laser weapons to a set of plasma and related weapons. I usually skip the laser ones, though they are decent. This is the laser rifle:

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Post by O. Hinds on Sat Nov 03, 2012 11:18 pm

OneMoreDaySK wrote:Bah, can't think of how to make FO:E cast, so instead I'm going to add y'all to my XCOM team. Any classes, genders, and playstyles you want in particular? Also have no idea, but I've gotten a whole lot of female characters instead of guys. O.o
I know nearly nothing about the game, but feel free to make me female if you need to give someone else a male role.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by O. Hinds on Sat Nov 03, 2012 11:23 pm

Cptadder wrote:
O. Hinds wrote:
Ketchup wrote:
O. Hinds wrote:
Cptadder wrote:
Ketchup wrote:
I figured he wanted to give it an explosive that could make a shockwave within the body since, as you say, fragmentation would be useless. To do that, he needs magic. I mentioned 20mm being the start point for useful explosive loadings earlier.
Edit: Oh, and he wanted to save metal. Not sure why he'd need to, a bullet is very small.
So make it a rifle grenade, it's quite easy to mount up to 40mm grenades from any standard 6mm or above rifle and explosives don't need to move fast for infantry use.
A grenade rifle as a military's primary close quarters combat firearm?
I think he meant something like this.
Ah, I see. Still, though, that and a rifle to fire it from does not seem like the ideal general-issue firearm for use inside buildings or cramped shipboard conditions.
They don't require a rifle to fire, it's just that rifles are handy to launch them accurately since you can easily mount the spring leaf pop up ranging sight which you really can't do in pistols and smgs. However they do exist for both pistols and smgs, they are unwieldy however and the lack of being able to brace it against something means they kick like a mule... no pun intended.

Still if you want to use this thing in ships you don't want explosives because that ruins your ability to capture ships intact, as for standard buildings don't you want penetration not explosives with explosives role be handled by grenades?

*Still catching up on the thread fyi.
So you think that they'd be better off putting in the extra production lines and metal supplies needed and just make two (four, if the normal/AP distinction is included) different designs of bullets?
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by swicked on Sat Nov 03, 2012 11:23 pm

Ironmonger wrote:Meanwhile Swicked is probably bored out of his damn mind.
I leave for a few hours to watch a movie and everyone goes back to guns for two pages.

Fuuuuuuuuuu...

Kattlarv wrote:@Swicked: So... does this mean you'll have to take a job as a security guard? xP
I'm an engineer, so I mostly sit at a desk all day. Our security guards actually patrol a lot, so I don't think that'd work for me right now. Then again, you could be refering to security guards at places other than where I work...

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Post by Ironmonger on Sat Nov 03, 2012 11:29 pm

I aint gonna lie, Swicked your job sounds boring as hell. Is it?

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Post by Frost on Sat Nov 03, 2012 11:36 pm

IncoherentOrange wrote:
Mister Frost wrote:Is there anything like this in X-COM?
*image*

That and the ACR are my favorite weapons

Spoiler:
There is an assault rifle:


But you'll definitely want a Light Plasma Rifle or Plasma Rifle:





If you want your character to, y'know, live. Your other option to start is this, at the start of the game:



Later on, OMD will likely develop the Alloy Cannon, which shoots high-velocity shards of UFOs at your enemies:



The game has a straight progression from a set of conventional weapons to a set of laser weapons to a set of plasma and related weapons. I usually skip the laser ones, though they are decent. This is the laser rifle:


That gun I showed you was a Saiga 12, and in the words of Jayne, "It is my very favorite gun."

It's essentially a 12-gauge Kalashnikov, and you can get pretty crazy as far as modding it out goes. My favorite assault rifle would be the ACR or AR15-based guns. I don't know much about the guns in X-com
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Post by swicked on Sat Nov 03, 2012 11:38 pm

Ironmonger wrote:I aint gonna lie, Swicked your job sounds boring as hell. Is it?
Err... what have I said about my job, before?
I mean, I do go places, but as a non-union employee I'm not allowed to touch anything.
I also get to take trips every few months to conferences, conventions, training, etc. Baltimore, Las Vegas, Phoenix...
I guess it's not the most exciting thing in the world, but I am expected to do lots of things regarding a lot of different pieces of equipment, maintain a bunch of relationships with vendors, collaborate and support various projects... I dunno.
What would an entertaining job be to you?

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Post by Ironmonger on Sat Nov 03, 2012 11:42 pm

As silly as it sounds, mercenary work. From what I hear they do a lot of work for the CIA, pretty good for someone who will eventually be a military veteran. Get to see various places, pay is good, possibility of fighting. Police/SWAT work would be interesting. As smart as I am I couldn't hold down an engineering job given I'm slow on some subjects and my brain likes to switch around numbers when I'm working.

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Post by swicked on Sat Nov 03, 2012 11:49 pm

Ironmonger wrote:As silly as it sounds, mercenary work. From what I hear they do a lot of work for the CIA, pretty good for someone who will eventually be a military veteran. Get to see various places, pay is good, possibility of fighting. Police/SWAT work would be interesting. As smart as I am I couldn't hold down an engineering job given I'm slow on some subjects and my brain likes to switch around numbers when I'm working.
I'm currently working on my master's degree in cyber security. I honestly hope to get a job with the DoD eventually. There's a major recruiting effort going on there and cyber security experts with an engineering background are pretty rare and, as I've been told many times, apparently very valuable XD
I dislike the idea of people shooting at me, though.

Edit:
It helps that the program I'm enrolled in is one of the preferred ones of the DoD and literally all my classmates are already in it, too.


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Post by Frost on Sat Nov 03, 2012 11:49 pm

Preferred term is Private Military contractor. Me and Iron are both planning 4 years in the military then PMC or police work
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Post by Ironmonger on Sat Nov 03, 2012 11:54 pm

swicked wrote:
I dislike the idea of people shooting at me, though.
I do too but that's why you shoot back! XD
Honestly I've expected to be going into the military ever since I was little, and now more than ever it seems to be the best choice for me. Worst thing that happens is I get religious. (props to anyone who gets what I mean)

"No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country. "

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Post by swicked on Sat Nov 03, 2012 11:56 pm

Ironmonger wrote:Honestly I've expected to be going into the military ever since I was little, and now more than ever it seems to be the best choice for me. Worst thing that happens is I get religious. (props to anyone who gets what I mean)
Er... I'd rather like it if you did explain what that means.

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Post by Frost on Sat Nov 03, 2012 11:57 pm

Ironmonger wrote:
swicked wrote:
I dislike the idea of people shooting at me, though.
I do too but that's why you shoot back! XD
Honestly I've expected to be going into the military ever since I was little, and now more than ever it seems to be the best choice for me. Worst thing that happens is I get religious. (props to anyone who gets what I mean)

"No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country. "

Religious. Holy. Full of holes
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Post by Ironmonger on Sat Nov 03, 2012 11:57 pm

Holy, filled full of holes.

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Post by Ketchup on Sat Nov 03, 2012 11:59 pm

That was a terrible pun. Clever, but terrible.
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Post by swicked on Sun Nov 04, 2012 12:00 am

Ah.
Well, alright, then.

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Post by Ironmonger on Sun Nov 04, 2012 12:01 am

Ketchup wrote:That was a terrible pun. Clever, but terrible.

Aint my pun, but leave Terry Bull out of this!

*shotgun racks*

Okay I'll stop. Shy

EDIT: "Holy molie that's a lot of holies!"

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Post by OneMoreDaySK on Sun Nov 04, 2012 12:08 am

Ironmonger you stupidly suicidal maniac. You get panicked by a muton, then proceed to charge at him and shoot him to death. You are so lucky that I have Hinds as a medic to patch you up after that.
So currently I have, nicknames only:
Assault (Male) Ironmonger
Assault (Male) Frost
Support (Female) Kim
Support (Male) Hinds

A plasma pistol wielding sniper named Homage (so many lucky crits)
Assault (Female) Blackjack [trying to get psi]
Assault (Female) Littlepip [trying to get psi]
Support (Female) Glory [archangel suit]
Sniper (Male) Calamity [archangel suit]

Going to build
Shiv - Ketchup
Floating Shiv - Orange

Ugh, psionic characters are so hard to get. I'm going with Psi->Magic in my mind so... yeah.
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Post by swicked on Sun Nov 04, 2012 12:08 am

Ironmonger wrote:
Ketchup wrote:That was a terrible pun. Clever, but terrible.

Aint my pun, but leave Terry Bull out of this!

*shotgun racks*

Okay I'll stop. Shy

EDIT: "Holy molie that's a lot of holies!"
Heh, I wonder what you'll be like when you get back from your tour of duty.

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Post by Ironmonger on Sun Nov 04, 2012 12:13 am

OneMoreDaySK wrote:Ironmonger you stupidly suicidal maniac. You get panicked by a muton, then proceed to charge at him and shoot him to death. You are so lucky that I have Hinds as a medic to patch you up after that.

That was a costly fight because it wasn't free of charge, and now I'm a pirate because I'm all patched up. If there's pan-ick from a muton then perhaps I shouldn't cook lamb anymore. Please don't shoot me.

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