Re: [Official!] Project Horizons Comment Crew Chat thread.

[Guest]

Friend of mine and I were discussing whether or not an omission of truth is a lie.

Here's the hypothetical situation:
You're waiting on a letter that contains vital information. While your out one day someone calls your home giving said vital information to a roomate, girlfriend, boyfriend whatever, it doesn't matter. What does matter is the person knows that this is the vital information you were waiting for in the letter.

When you get home you ask "Did the letter come?"
The person answers "No." and never tells you about the call. Is this a lie?

Would the person who got the call know that the letter and call contained the same information? If so, then while technically not a lie, it's probably on par with one. If not, then I'd say it's more of a case of misunderstanding/failure to communicate.

Eh, a lie by definition is an intentional untruth. If the person desired to deceive you, then it was a lie. If the statement was made due to the person being distracted or any number of other mitigating factors, then it was not.
For that reason we're missing a vital part of the question.

Yeah, I'd reword the question so that the other person knew that you needed 'vital information' and that you asked 'did the letter with 'vital information' arrive?', to which the proper answer would be "no, but someone called with 'vital information.'" So in that setup, the other person purposefully not telling you about the phone call would be on the same level as lying.

Sorry, I always assume people are following me, when  in the truth I'm not being clear. The reason in this scenario the other person (henceforward referred to as PA) knows the vital information the letter contains is because the person (Henceforward referred to as LR) that's supposed to be recieving it has divulged that information to PA in the hopes that they'd understand why the information was vital.

For the sake of argument PA knows that while LR asked about the letter LR probably couldn't care less about the form the information took as long as they got the information. PA simply decided not to tell LR about the call because LR didn't ask about a call he asked about a letter.

[Scienza]

I think someone's mentioned it, but for me it sort of depends on whether the person intentionally withheld information for malicious reasons, or whether the person was honestly unsure/forgot of what the person was asking for.

On an unrelated note, there's a new Humble Origin Bundle. I'm pretty sure most of you guys have the games in it, but if not, the Bioware games alone are a steal for five bucks.

[Ironmonger]

I seem to have misplaced my sides.:

[Stringtheory]

I seem to have misplaced my sides.:

Oh dear, a Jontron YTPMV...I'm not sure what I expected...

[Ironmonger]

I'd love to see a Scatman remix of this:

[Scienza]

This is glorious.

[Ironmonger]

@Scienza

I can't unsee the mayor saying "Respect the robot. Respect it!" with a fist-slam for emphasis, kinda like in the Capri Sun commercials.

[Guest]

I think someone's mentioned it, but for me it sort of depends on whether the person intentionally withheld information for malicious reasons, or whether the person was honestly unsure/forgot of what the person was asking for.

Well, yeah, I wouldn't call a forgetful person dishonest, but I would say that barring some medical condition that the person can't really help, if they forgot something that was vital to you I probably would say that person doesn't care that much about you. It's not that difficult to remember or keep in mind the few things that are that important.

[Guest]

Watched the season's latest hyped horror movie, "The Babadook," because it was on Netflix. It's probably worth watching, but it's not the godsend to the genre some people make it out to be, in my opinion.

Spoilers from here on in:

[Tytan]

The only honest horoscope:

[Valikdu]

Heh.

Spoiler:

[Stringtheory]

Heh.

Spoiler:

*eye twitch*

[O. Hinds]

Heh.

Spoiler:

At first I just thought that the image was glitching and tried to open it by itself in a new window. I got it midway through the load. :D

[Frost]

The only honest horoscope:

I'm pretty sure my horoscope sign is Prius

[Harmony Ltd.]

This is glorious.

"Transformer". What a bunch of uncultured plebs... This is obviously a Zaku from the Gundam franchise. *shakes head* those journalists... just no commitments to reporting facts with exactitude.

[Stringtheory]

This is glorious.

"Transformer". What a bunch of uncultured plebs... This is obviously a Zaku from the Gundam franchise. *shakes head* those journalists... just no commitments to reporting facts with exactitude.

Yep, definitely a Zaku with what looks like a GM head on it.

[Guest]

New Star Wars trailer. Fuck. I ain't hyped, but now I'm invested. Friggin' stupid classic cockpit camera angles, making me nostalgic. Fack.

[Ironmonger]

Lulz:

[Valikdu]

Now in video form!

[Frost]

McDonald's' new promotion is a real hit:

[Stringtheory]

Man, I wish I was good at Skullgirls, because Beowulf, the latest character looks amazing.

Trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLfBunsHU6A
So much ham...

[Guest]

I'm sure you got to be at least okay with the game. Skullgirls actually teaches you how to play it.

Speaking of games AC4 is free on XBL and I'm pretty sure everyone has said this, but I wish this game had fleshed out the ship aspects and called itself Sid Meier's Pirates 2. That's the feeling I get when I board ships.

And I get the feeling they borrowed at least a few aspects, you've got this shitty minigame that in all honesty looks like a bundled in companion app, that allows you to use captured ships. On top of that there's legendary ships on the map that would be great if you could change your flagship like you could in pirates, as it is I just don't care.

Make the upgrading cheaper so it'd be worthwhile doing on multiple ships, and that'd be a good first step. Add food as a supply in the game, morale for the crew that way the taverns could do something and it would be great. The combat is probably better than Pirate's too, the only challenge it offered was if you were too old and the button presses became impossible.

The side stuff (diving bell, whaling) is more fun than the same rythm game, (Guess you were trying to court someone's daughter? I remember dancing with some lady on a fountain for some reason) just get rid of the forced stealth stuff. It's not like it's a strength for AC anyway(There's no contest between AC and Dishonored), they didn't even take it seriously anyway. There's a mission where you have to infiltrate the assassin's and not be detected, but the joke is if you have subtitles on the game lets you know what they're saying and the assassin's know you're there. The game is just jerking you around. You could say the assassin's are testing you, but if that's true and they've noticed me why haven't I failed?

Truth is it's just there to waste your time, there wouldn't be BS missions where you listen to character's talk to eachother for a ridiculous amount of time otherwise. Or at least they would make you listen to the same BS over and over again until you got it right. What's really funny about that particular task, just like the assassin infiltration mission the guy you're following knows you're there, so there's no reason at all why you couldn't fail this and keep going.

[Stringtheory]

I'm sure you got to be at least okay with the game. Skullgirls actually teaches you how to play it.

Nope, even with a fight stick I couldn't get through the tutorial, though to be fair I did give up pretty easily.

[Guest]

In your defense if you were trying to learn a character first it can be a little difficult to get through those tutorials. The button inputs are hard to figure out if you don't know what they mean. Peacock's last super had me confused for a good while.

[Stringtheory]

In your defense if you were trying to learn a character first it can be a little difficult to get through those tutorials. The button inputs are hard to figure out if you don't know what they mean. Peacock's last super had me confused for a good while.

Nope, just the regular general mechanics tutorials, with all the button prompts shown on screen, I just couldn't do the moves right...

[Guest]

Has anyone else seen this?

Spoiler:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwWLns7-xN8

I am so excited now.

[RoboRed]

Has anyone else seen this?

Spoiler:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwWLns7-xN8

I am so excited now.

Spoiler:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBynge-bNRw

[Stringtheory]

Has anyone else seen this?

Spoiler:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwWLns7-xN8

I am so excited now.

Spoiler:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBynge-bNRw

Yep, not getting my hopes up, it's EA after all.

[Tytan]

For those of you who may have been wondering how to get your hands on Beowulf.

[Ironmonger]

I have an update on my situation. The bad news is that my arm pain that halted progress on the Ironworks is caused by tennis elbow in both arms, which I found out yesterday. The good news is that it's an easy fix, and I don't have to give up PC usage, only reduce it for now. I should be able to actually work on my channel within a few months, and I'll have better equipment by then, such as a new, up-to-date PC.

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