Re: [Official!] Project Horizons Comment Crew Chat thread.

[OneMoreDaySK]

Random topic in attempt to start up discussion: Which League of Legends character do you (and others) most resemble? Hopefully this doesn't end up in flames.

Update: So very quiet around here. Ok then, how about a more discussion-worthy topic. Skimming the threads in both LoL and Warframe, a big question comes up about lore. How important is lore to a game, specifically a multiplayer game?

[RoboRed]

but it's so adorable:

[Guest]

So, I was just joking about that font thing, it wouldn't be a problem if it was dubbed, but they'll pop up in the middle of people's sentences and the sentence will only pop for a second and then is replaced with a translation for the pop up.

@Story For a multiplayer only game? Well it's strange...  I get the feeling a lot of the time multiplayer only guys wouldn't care about story.

Granted this isn't a great example, but when I play halo's multiplayer when I check out the people in a lobby it'll often say "This person has started the game on normal" meaning they never beat it. COD is the same deal, the games I did play a lot of people would have zero acheivements because they were all single player.

And I'd be very surprised if a majority of the WoW players knew what was going on in that game.

I think that people that concern themselves with multiplayer aren't too interested in a story and vice versa. Thought it's nice they add those things in to try and interest people I guess. Ultimately I think it's kinda pointless.

[OneMoreDaySK]

Anyone else playing Bravely Default? I'm kind of lacking friends to share attacks with, and streetpass is rubbish due to where I live.

@Last
Counterexample. TF2 starts off with absolutely no story whatsoever. Based on a mod for Quake, it grew its own lore by the fandom, and you can see bits and pieces in the comics and even tie ins. For Warframe, they don't really have that much at the moment, but a whole lot of potential. League on the other hand, has a ton of stuff there, just nothing ever done with it. Like there is a little indicator for Vi for each time she ever catches, i.e. kills an opposing Jinx. Cool, but nothing is ever done about it. They used to have the Journal of Justice, as well as League Judgements, but those kinda just got axed and rotted away. They have a lot of cool character ideas, but unless there is lore progression, they turn out as 2d characters, in both senses. While not a majority, there are a lot of story buffs in the multiplayer crowd.

[Guest]

Well to be fair TF2's story is stupid and it embraces the fact that it's stupid. So that might attribute to it's popularity.

[OneMoreDaySK]

But the biggest thing about the TF2 lore is that it has interactions. Spy reacting to Soldier and Scout shenanigans. The cast reacting to the Soldier's Roommate. That kind of stuff doesn't exist in LoL. Sure we know that Lucian hates Thresh because he has her soul in his lantern, but that never shows up anywhere in the game, neither is there anything related to the grudge between Nasus and Renekton. Closest I can think of is the special quest exclusive to Rengar and Kha'zix. When the players reach level 16, if they manage to kill the other, they actually get a substantial boost to their game. Doesn't have to be that intensive, but it would be nice if we saw, say, interaction between Teemo, Tristana, and Rumble, or having an official story about the Pentakills.

Apologies for those unaware of the LoL lore. Probably looks like a bunch of gibberish.

[O. Hinds]

And I'd be very surprised if a majority of the WoW players knew what was going on in that game.

…Really?  I mean, I can understand not wanting to roleplay, but not even knowing what's going on?
Then again, I was a bit of a lore geek when I was still playing (I started in late BC and stopped in early/mid Cata), and I followed Travels through Azeroth and Outland even after I got bored with the game itself.

[Scienza]

Update: So very quiet around here. Ok then, how about a more discussion-worthy topic. Skimming the threads in both LoL and Warframe, a big question comes up about lore. How important is lore to a game, specifically a multiplayer game?

I do love me some lore, so that does really skew my results, since most multiplayer games I play are the MP modes of games I got for their SP. Even Halo has a pretty deep lore that you can pick into.

For pure MP games, lore isn't necessary, but I love when it's there and integrated in some way.

[OneMoreDaySK]

Lore isn't necessary? I actually beg to differ. While it doesn't impact the player directly on the surface, it is one of the main reasons on replayability of a game. Once you have your chosen complacent build / strategy, what else is there to do in the game? Just drop it? Take DayZ Standalone for example. At the moment, it's not too much to look at. Lacking a whole lot of features from the mod, why is it still very popular? I play it for the story that I build myself. A character that wakes up with nothing, running constantly from zombies, only able to trust a single player communicating by 'radio' (TS/Skype). At the moment we're kinda cheesing it by going on ghost servers at daytime, but when we get more players on (Ketchup, Orange(haven't played with), Ketchup's friend Brett, Scyto, and Me), I'm hoping to try and make it a survival game for us on a populated map. Sure, having a story does nothing for the mechanics of gameplay. It doesn't give me +5 run. But it does make me want to get back to the game after work each day. It's something I believe that Warframe is trying to develop, and League had at one point but lost in the character creation frenzy and hype for eSports.
 
Huh. So apparently those toe shoes I was tootin' about got into a lawsuit, where they are settling out of court with ~$3.75m in a class action. Accusers are blaming Vibram for false advertisement of health benefits. Defenders are saying that overexertion coming from transition of traditional shoes to minimalist shoes are the cause of most injuries. Both cite lack of evidence going either way. Still like them. Never got them for 'health benefits'. But free money is free money, right?

[Katarn]

@Katt
Zaeed Massani.

[Scienza]

Lore isn't necessary? I actually beg to differ. While it doesn't impact the player directly on the surface, it is one of the main reasons on replayability of a game. Once you have your chosen complacent build / strategy, what else is there to do in the game? Just drop it? Take DayZ Standalone for example. At the moment, it's not too much to look at. Lacking a whole lot of features from the mod, why is it still very popular? I play it for the story that I build myself. A character that wakes up with nothing, running constantly from zombies, only able to trust a single player communicating by 'radio' (TS/Skype). At the moment we're kinda cheesing it by going on ghost servers at daytime, but when we get more players on (Ketchup, Orange(haven't played with), Ketchup's friend Brett, Scyto, and Me), I'm hoping to try and make it a survival game for us on a populated map. Sure, having a story does nothing for the mechanics of gameplay. It doesn't give me +5 run. But it does make me want to get back to the game after work each day. It's something I believe that Warframe is trying to develop, and League had at one point but lost in the character creation frenzy and hype for eSports.

Depends on the game. Look at Unreal Tournament, which has only the barest smidge of lore yet is incredibly fun to play. Lore wouldn't be necessary in games where the furthest bearing any lore has is how scary your skeleton playermodel looks. On the other hand, DayZ plays more like a zombie RPG with other people, and so the degree to which you invest in the game's lore and setting directly correlates to how much you get out of it.

[Ironmonger]

Lulz:

[Guest]

@Katt
Zaeed Massani.

I couldn't kill him in my playthrough and that angered me greatly.

[Guest]

@SK Just for the record I didn't mean TF2's lore or story or whatever you wanna call it is bad.(Maybe it is technically I don't know. I don't actually think about it kinda why I called it stupid, It doen't really make me think.) I just finished Saints Row 3 and it was very stupid. And I loved it.

[Valikdu]

lol:

[Guest]

Does anyone play The wolf Among us? The new episode came out. Unless you play it IOS or something.

[Scienza]

I've been meaning to. I love the shit out Fables, so I really want to get around to playing it.

[Guest]

It's intriguing. I don't know much about the world but I like meeting the new characters. Even if everyone treats the main character like he's an asshole.

[Moodyman90]

I don't have the game but I know of Fables and been watching others play it.

And Bigby is an asshole. Or at least he was back in the old country. I mean, he's the Big Bad Wolf. And I mean THE big bad wolf. Every story that had a wolf in it, He was that wolf. And most of the time the wolf was evil. Thus, Bigby is an asshole.

[Katarn]

Here you have an option to play him as asshole, as (sort of) old Bigby or 'redeemed' (or the one, who tries to) Bigby.

[RoboRed]

Swickedbait:
http://digitalcyn.deviantart.com/art/Raise-The-Sun-456979702
http://kplatoony.deviantart.com/art/Princess-Celestia-456999125
http://alasou.deviantart.com/art/Pumpkin-Adventure-456955728

Lastbait:
http://kaliptro2.deviantart.com/art/EVERYONE-HAS-THE-RIGHT-TO-LOVE-457018411

[Guest]

Lastbait:
http://kaliptro2.deviantart.com/art/EVERYONE-HAS-THE-RIGHT-TO-LOVE-457018411

"Changeling welfare" was the alternate title.

[Guest]

Welp, quit on Arrow when the second season didn't seem to be working on what the first screwed up (and everyone's motivations were being redone into absurdity, just so they could have a moment of realization that they're being thick as hell and immediately go back to normal). Started on Kill La Kill, instead, because Gurren Lagann was one of those rare animes I enjoyed. Zero regrets on this front. This is some of the funniest stuff I've seen in a long time, and it's pretty damn clever sometimes, too. Watching it on Netflix, as I prefer subtitles in foreign stuff anyway. Translations are largely fantastic; some meaning is doubtless lost, but in 14 episodes I've only seen one sentence that was hard to parse. Top quote: "People die when they die from blood loss!" Also, the puns. My god, the puns that they managed to translate are golden.

[Harmony Ltd.]

Guess where I am right now?

Spoiler:

[Guest]

@Harmony
You've taken a tumble into the non-Euclidean horrorscape that is Broken Image Land? :P I checked the source link, though; enjoying Paris?

[Harmony Ltd.]

Do you have any idea how hard it is to post from a phone in these kind of circumstances.

Fixed it.

Taking a lot pictures. May or may not make a thread later.

[Cptadder]

Do you have any idea how hard it is to post from a phone in these kind of circumstances.

Fixed it.

Taking a lot pictures. May or may not make a thread later.

Yeah it is hard to pay attention in Vegas

[Katarn]

You mean 'pay attention to phone', right?   

[Harmony Ltd.]

Do you have any idea how hard it is to post from a phone in these kind of circumstances.

Fixed it.

Taking a lot pictures. May or may not make a thread later.

Yeah it is hard to pay attention in Vegas

I will find you

and I will crush you

[Katarn]

@Harmony

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