[Fallout Equestria] Setting discussions

Harmony wrote:

O. Hinds wrote:

Harmony Ltd. wrote:Or heck, what about the people in the stasis pods, who are still conscious, commanding robots as surrogate bodies and going about their business in the Stable while their actual bodies are preserved?

Wouldn't that run into the same mental issue that cyberponies have to worry about, though?

I don't think so. They can just decide to stop using the robots as surrogate bodies, and still have their own. IIRC the problematic with cyberponies is that they have lost parts of their original bodies, which has been replaced with something artificial, foreign, which they cannot take back without endangering their lives.

If anything, the problem would be that they wouldn't feel anything at all from their own suspended bodies, so they might need some kind of stimulation so that their brains doesn't "forget" what it's like to have a body.

Harmony wrote:http://silentcarto.deviantart.com/art/Fallout-Equestria-Map-256089341

Lower left bit

Hmm...

Unity Island would be the island just west of (the ruins of) Friendship City

Princesses Heights would be the island that's west of "raider's nest"

Riverside would be the western shore of the river, with the reclaimed space mostly being over where Arbu was (yes, that's where I'm going... )

And, well, "Manehatten" proper (Tenpony and Downtown) would be the Eastern shore of the river. Tenpony would be the place around the Manehatten Garden (the equivalent of Central Park), and Downtown would be the big empty space south of that, where the blast zone is.

Harmony wrote:You know what, screw it.



The smallest island is Friendship City.

The biggest island is Princesses Heights

The island between the two is Unity Island


The Friendship City Ruins are in the Unity Island's borough.

Harmony wrote:What does "GRHAS" stands for, again?

Harmony wrote:on my phone, so it's gonna be short:

- i'm talking about the three islands on the lower right corner of the map
- i didn't remember that part of the 10-year epilogue, but let's say I prefer the irony of building a middle-class stereotypically 50's racist/classist suburb over Arbu than a prison. Though the penal labor bit also makes sense - they're probably somewhere building roads or tending to crop fields.

Harmony wrote:Here:

Spoiler:

Harmony wrote:"Friendship Bridge"? As in, a bridge linking Friendship City with the continent? Forgot there was supposed to be one.

Hmm... I'll to work that a bit.

Kkat wrote:Friendship Bridge was a drawbridge that had once extended all the way from Manehattan to the island. I was astounded how close to intact it still was. There were gaps, but none looked longer than a hundred yards, and there were rope bridges spanning the collapsed sections.
“How did they do that?” I mused, staring at the extensive rope bridges through my binoculars. It seemed like an incredible feat even for unicorn magic. Calamity tapped my shoulder, then grinned and fluttered his wings.
“Oh. Duh.” At some point, Friendship City had become home to at least one Dashite.

Kkat wrote:One of the Pyrocumulus’ belly cannons swiveled and fired on the ruined warship as it crashed into Friendship Bridge, tearing apart catastrophically.

Harmony wrote:By the way, remind me... Did Stable 2 get evacuated, or did its inhabitants stay there?

Kkat wrote:Blackwing barked a laugh. “I think she’ll be surprised. Disturbed, maybe. She was hoping for rights to draw from Stable Two’s water talisman. Instead, she’s getting an offer to move the entire damn population of Stable Two, as well as its most valuable assets, to her domain.”

As Velvet Remedy had determined, Stable Two could not afford to remain isolated for much longer. The population needed to genetically spread, to introduce new breeding stock from the Outside. But they couldn’t just open the Stable door. Not with Stable Two near the edge of the Everfree Forest and an hour’s trot from raider territory. They needed to move. Shattered Hoof provided additional population and safety.
With this plan, the water talisman would be moved to Junction R-7, and the entire subterranean apple orchard would be relocated to the mines underneath Shattered Hoof. The ponies of Stable Two would start building homes in the land between Junction R-7 and the old prison. It would be a massive undertaking, but then Old Appleloosa had been built by earth ponies in a single year.

It felt odd knowing that my new home was going to become my old home. Within five years, Junction R-7 was going to be the center of a town.

“I’m more worried about the delay,” I called out. “It’s going to be a few months, at best, before the ponies in Stable Two can actually start the move. Right now, the area outside the Stable is just too dangerous.” The Everfree Forest exodus, however, was just a part of the problem. I was even more worried about retaliation from the Steel Rangers.

So for now, the Stable was sealing itself up again. The ponies of Stable Two needed time to process and cope with the trauma. They needed time to clean the Stable and rebuild their lives. They wouldn’t be able to forget; and part of me thought that was good, as it would prevent them from losing sight of what they owed and the changes that needed to be made.

“Gawd’s patient,” Blackwing commented. “But you’ve got other problems. Only way to ferry the orchard to Shattered Hoof is by rail. And those tracks pass through New Appleloosa.”

Crap. That’s right.

“We’ll work something out,” I assured her. “But I’ve got to deal with Red Eye first.”

Harmony wrote:Because if so they are smack dab in the middle in the Hellhound Reservation.

Not that they would need to evacuate if they managed to live together in harmony, but it's just something I note...


'Y'know what, I guess this could even be a somewhat calculated move... The Hellhounds know that Littlepip is quite attached to her home stable, and the NCR knows that if something were to happen to Stable 2 things could go really ugly really fast. So that would give the NCR an incentive to play nice with the Hellhounds. Especially when you add to that the fact that Velvet Remedy is at the head of the Followers, which is probably the most influential non-governmental actor in the NCR, giving her the potential to raise quite a ruckus in the public opinion if she wanted.

Harmony wrote:Okay, trying to work with Silentcarto's map as is:

Harmony wrote:- Princesses Heights is on the eastern side of the river [1], southeast of Downtown Manehatten and directly east of Friendship City.
- Riverside takes the whole western shore of the river. See it as New Jersey if you want an analogy.
- Tenpony takes the space around the Manehatten Garden, including Horseshoe Tower (I don't even remember what role that one played in the story) and Tenpony Tower to give an idea of the northern/southern boundaries of the borough; touches the river on its western limit, and ends halfway between Tenpony Tower and the Four Stars Grand Terminal on its eastern limit.
- Downtown Manehatten takes the space between Tenpony and Princesses heights, making it the geographical center of the city.
- Unity Island is the island west of Friendship city on Silentcarto's map. Friendship City itself (the island) is administratively in the borough of Unity Island, as with the little yet-unnamed island north of Friendship City (still on Silentcarto's map of Manehatten).

Perhaps this might help?:

Kkat wrote:The Glorious Dawn was being dispatched to a rendezvous with the bulk of the Enclave’s forces, amassing for an attack on Fillydelphia. And by attack, they meant cleansing. Slavers, slaves, Rangers, scavengers… they were going to kill them all, and reduce the factories that Red Eye had rebuilt to rubble for good measure.

And they could. I’d just seen them turn Horseshoe Tower into a mound of rubble and slag.

Harmony wrote:[1]: how are we going to name that river, by the way? The Trotson River?

Harmony wrote:Updated version of the Greater Manehatten Metropolitan Area.

Spoiler:

Harmony wrote:So, I was thinking... Manehatten has grown quite big, at least relative to what came before, and all these houses and industries need to keep their lights on. So, the question is: where does the power come from?

Well, at first I thought, they're probably using biomass to burn in some steam-to-electricity power plant. However, a quick sanity check seemed to show that the NCR would be hard-pressed producing enough biomass to fuel all of Manehatten energy needs, and the needs of the other cities of the republic, plus producing fuel for the various vehicles the NCR uses, AND, by the way, feeding its population.

The NCR has a ridiculously productive agricultural sector, but still, let's keep it somewhat believable.

So, well, it seems the Alliance win this round: Manehatten runs on oil, at least as far as the power grid goes. As well as the other major cities of the NCR, I guess.

The "question" is: are the generators Alliance-made, or NCR-made? It's most probably a mix of both, with the NCR, as always, trying to close the gap and produce its own stuff.

The steam-generator the NCR produce would be thought out to be able to run either on oil or alcohol.

The Sixth Borough:

Harmony wrote:By the way, remember that lake in the Northern Territories that gives birth to the Trotson River? Remember when I suggested that the reason there is a lake there is because Equestria built an hydroelectric dam?

Well, I think the NCR has now good reasons to take interests in that dam.

Spoiler:

Spoiler:

Harmony wrote:Shit, sorry, the map you've took upon yourself to clean up is unfortunately the bad one. The correct one would be:

Harmony wrote:Anyway, here's the thing that should clear it up:

Spoiler:

1 : Riverside
2 : Tenpony
3 : Downtown Manehatten
4 : Princesses Heights
5 : Unity Island (administratively contain Friendship City)
6 : A-Town

Note: the scale is deduced upon the assumption that the Manehatten Garden has the same dimension as IRL Central Park (3.8km long)

O. Hinds wrote:

Harmony wrote:Shit, sorry, the map you've took upon yourself to clean up is unfortunately the bad one. The correct one would be:

…Well okay then.  Thanks for the correct one.  :)

Harmony wrote:I'll just note that A-Town is sitting just right next to the heartland of Manehatten's various Mafia families (Princesses Heights). Maybe this could be of some interest? :)

Harmony wrote:Princesses Heights (PH for short) is also the industrial heart of the city, so putting A-Town just right next to it makes sense.

Harmony wrote:Want the .XCF gimp file with all the layers?

Harmony wrote:I think there would probably be some kind of monument at Ground Zero of the balefire detonation site, but I'm not quite sure what yet.

I was thinking that the crater itself, or at least a portion of it, would be somewhat preserved. Made into a garden, or an urban farm for the least favored parts of the city's population to grow their own food there if they want, maybe? That would at least have the merit of being poetic.

There's enough space in the rest of Downtown Manehatten that the pressure to reclaim the crater for building space isn't a pressing concern just yet.

Probably a memorial to all the victims of War. All wars. Whereas Friendship city is a memorial for the Bitter War only, the crater monument would commemorate all victims, from all sides, past, present, and future.

Harmony wrote:Note that I made an edit to the post after you posted the above answer.

here's the edit:

Probably a memorial to all the victims of War. All wars. Whereas Friendship city is a memorial for the Bitter War only, the crater monument would commemorate all victims, from all sides, past, present, and future.

Anyway, on my way to sending you a mail.

Harmony wrote:Noting a thing:

the space available for A-Town is, all things considered, quite small when you factor in how extensive industrial installations and docks can get. So I could see the place as being the first one where actual buildings/skyscrapers would be built on the NCR's territory since the Great War.

Harmony wrote:If only because I'm sure Elusive will want to cram as many offices of the company as he can in that Special Administrative Zone (or area or region, or whatever).