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Post by OneMoreDaySK on Tue May 20, 2014 11:30 am

Thought there was something about a clone body being unable to act as a surrogate.
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Post by Vinylshadow on Tue May 20, 2014 11:34 am

Blackjack's not gonna care about that

MAMA BEAR MODE ACTIVATED

And ya'll thought Drunkjack was scary
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Post by Guest on Tue May 20, 2014 11:51 am

You're right SK. Cogs specifically says that.

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If she knows that she can't carry the baby then chooses to go through with the transplant. You're right that makes her very scary. A very scary level of stupid.

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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Vinylshadow on Tue May 20, 2014 12:58 pm

So just another day for BJ

I don't remember reading anything about clones being incompatible with the spell though
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Post by Silver136 on Tue May 20, 2014 1:40 pm

Cogs said something about it during their meeting below the core shortly before Blackjack lost her body if I remember correctly.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Vinylshadow on Tue May 20, 2014 2:03 pm

As I said, Blackjack is the 1% that somehow by laws of Discord is compatible

MAAAAAAAGIC
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by OneMoreDaySK on Tue May 20, 2014 2:26 pm

@Vinylshadow
When did this turn into a shounen anime, where 1% -> 100%?
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Vinylshadow on Tue May 20, 2014 2:32 pm

Back when Blackjack came back from the dead...twice

Because SOMEPONY obviously used the dragon balls

or else they wished that Blackjack would never truly 'die'
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Retl on Tue May 20, 2014 5:15 pm

17:12 (Get_Bonus) P-21's Pipbuck. Did he lose it after the memory orb accident? What happened to it?
17:12 (NitoKa) It turned into a ballon
17:12 (Get_Bonus) BEST
17:12 (Get_Bonus) 10/10 would squeak erry time
Seriously though, what happened to it? I completely forgot.


Last edited by Retl on Tue May 20, 2014 5:16 pm; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : Replaced IRC angle brackets with parens.)
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Borsuq on Tue May 20, 2014 5:36 pm

Retl wrote:
17:12 (Get_Bonus) P-21's Pipbuck. Did he lose it after the memory orb accident? What happened to it?
17:12 (NitoKa) It turned into a ballon
17:12 (Get_Bonus) BEST
17:12 (Get_Bonus) 10/10 would squeak erry time
Seriously though, what happened to it? I completely forgot.

I believe it was left behind in Stable 99 in the first chapter. He was supposed to be retired the next day, though the Overmare would have probably somehow stopped that if things went differently.

...

What memory orb accident?
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Retl on Tue May 20, 2014 5:38 pm

Borsuq wrote:
Retl wrote:
17:12 (Get_Bonus) P-21's Pipbuck. Did he lose it after the memory orb accident? What happened to it?
17:12 (NitoKa) It turned into a ballon
17:12 (Get_Bonus) BEST
17:12 (Get_Bonus) 10/10 would squeak erry time
Seriously though, what happened to it? I completely forgot.

I believe it was left behind in Stable 99 in the first chapter. He was supposed to be retired the next day, though the Overmare would have probably somehow stopped that if things went differently.

...

What memory orb accident?
I was thinking about an event later in, where BJ tries to force a locked memory orb, just before meeting Priest for the first time. 
Hadn't thought it was left behind so early. Neat. Thanks for the input!
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Scienza on Tue May 20, 2014 7:03 pm

Either way, he's in the same boat as Velvet Remedy in that he probably wouldn't wear one out of symbolic protest despite its functionality.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by WavemasterRyx on Tue May 20, 2014 7:43 pm

Retl wrote:
17:12 (Get_Bonus) P-21's Pipbuck. Did he lose it after the memory orb accident? What happened to it?
17:12 (NitoKa) It turned into a ballon
17:12 (Get_Bonus) BEST
17:12 (Get_Bonus) 10/10 would squeak erry time
Seriously though, what happened to it? I completely forgot.
Chapter 1 wrote:I got him settled in detainment and then walked to get the shit-water off my face.  Better, but the smell still lingered.  Normal procedure involved a search, but I reckoned I’d searched him well enough dealing with his injured knee.  I then used my security key to remove his PipBuck.  A quick download of his files and I set it on the desk.  Then I got the marker, levitated it to his flank, and with a magical zap gave him his last dot under his cutie mark.  Now there wasn’t anything else to do but wait for the morning shift.
*nuzzles Retl lightly*
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Retl on Tue May 20, 2014 9:24 pm

WavemasterRyx wrote:
Retl wrote:
17:12 (Get_Bonus) P-21's Pipbuck. Did he lose it after the memory orb accident? What happened to it?
17:12 (NitoKa) It turned into a ballon
17:12 (Get_Bonus) BEST
17:12 (Get_Bonus) 10/10 would squeak erry time
Seriously though, what happened to it? I completely forgot.
Chapter 1 wrote:I got him settled in detainment and then walked to get the shit-water off my face.  Better, but the smell still lingered.  Normal procedure involved a search, but I reckoned I’d searched him well enough dealing with his injured knee.  I then used my security key to remove his PipBuck.  A quick download of his files and I set it on the desk.  Then I got the marker, levitated it to his flank, and with a magical zap gave him his last dot under his cutie mark.  Now there wasn’t anything else to do but wait for the morning shift.
*nuzzles Retl lightly*
Oooh, there we go. Perfect. Thanks for the quote, Ryx! *Inifinisquishyhug.*
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by SilentCarto on Wed May 21, 2014 12:11 am

Vinylshadow wrote:Because SOMEPONY obviously used the dragon balls
The spritebot was silent for a long moment.

"The what now?" Watcher asked flatly.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Vinylshadow on Wed May 21, 2014 8:07 am

When FiM uses the Elements of Harmony to bring a pony back to life, that's when I'll protest

I'll bet you anything SOMEONE at the studio tossed the idea around...

Pretty sure there's a fanfic or two out there
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Scienza on Wed May 21, 2014 10:28 am

Vinylshadow wrote:When FiM uses the Elements of Harmony to bring a pony back to life, that's when I'll protest

I'll bet you anything SOMEONE at the studio tossed the idea around...

Pretty sure there's a fanfic or two out there
Eh, I think having a non-villain dying is well beyond where Hasbro is willing to go.

But then again, maybe that would mean that we'd actually see Applejack's parents.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Vinylshadow on Wed May 21, 2014 11:46 am

I think the only mlp villain that was actually killed was Sombra

I'm amazed Granny Smith hasn't kicked the bucket or hay bale, or whatever dead is in FiM, but we're getting away from Horizons again


....the idea of a giant moon missile hitting Equestria and wiping it out really sounds like Nightmare Moon's wet dream

However (I think) she still wants ponies around to appreciate her, so it'd be a double-edged blade
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Retl on Wed May 21, 2014 12:09 pm

Vinylshadow wrote:....the idea of a giant moon missile hitting Equestria and wiping it out really sounds like Nightmare Moon's wet dream

And now I imagine she's actually trying to make love to the moon while everypony on the planet watches. She simply forgot about the part where the collision destroys everythingever.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Vinylshadow on Wed May 21, 2014 12:55 pm

I did not need that mental image, but thanks anyway
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Vinylshadow on Wed May 21, 2014 2:52 pm

Blackjack would probably be desperate to try anything to get her baby back
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by FeatherDust on Wed May 21, 2014 3:25 pm

Vinylshadow wrote:As I said, Blackjack is the 1% that somehow by laws of Discord is compatible

MAAAAAAAGIC
Do you really think it would be a satisfying narrative resolution?  To have the narrative go to lengths to explain why this plan won't work, and then go "Welp, screw all that, we're doin' it anyway!" and it works?

In Dragonball Z or Naruto, maybe.  In Gurren Lagann, sure.

In Fallout?  Hell no.

The whole point of explaining that blanks aren't viable surrogates was to ratchet up the tension and remove the easy answer.

Vinylshadow wrote:Blackjack would probably be desperate to try anything to get her baby back
Yes, clearly.  Being desperate to get back her baby does not include acts that are virtually guaranteed to kill it.  Being desperate does not mean she becomes insane.
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Post by Vinylshadow on Wed May 21, 2014 3:31 pm

Yeah yeah

Well, worst case scenario, she kills Cogjack and makes more happy funtimes with P-21 and Glory

We'll just have to wait and see

Watch pregnancy urges be Cogjack's downfall

wild emotional mood swings, nausea...even though I doubt pony pregnancies are anything like human pregnancies
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Exodus Hero on Thu May 22, 2014 12:51 am

FeatherDust wrote:
Vinylshadow wrote:As I said, Blackjack is the 1% that somehow by laws of Discord is compatible

MAAAAAAAGIC
Do you really think it would be a satisfying narrative resolution?  To have the narrative go to lengths to explain why this plan won't work, and then go "Welp, screw all that, we're doin' it anyway!" and it works?

In Dragonball Z or Naruto, maybe.  In Gurren Lagann, sure.

In Fallout?  Hell no.

The whole point of explaining that blanks aren't viable surrogates was to ratchet up the tension and remove the easy answer.

Vinylshadow wrote:Blackjack would probably be desperate to try anything to get her baby back
Yes, clearly.  Being desperate to get back her baby does not include acts that are virtually guaranteed to kill it.  Being desperate does not mean she becomes insane.
Well this is all assuming Cogs is telling the truth, although she would have no reason to lie, I believe she is an unreliable source of information. If anything, I think Glory would probably do a physical on Blackjack to see if she can, in fact, carry the child to term if at all.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Guest on Thu May 22, 2014 1:30 am

Does she have to? Glory or more importantly the Collegiate* has been in posession of part of that tree for at least three months.

I thinks it's reasonable they'd have understanding of what it's capable of at this point. Could be wrong here but I'm thinking it's within the realm of posibility that Glory could just confirm or deny what Cogs already told BJ. And as you said she doesn't have a reason to lie, Cogs has been  shown to be unwilling to use the baby as leverage. Besides didn't Cogs have access to the Chimera files? Didn't BJ unlock them?

*That is where the pegasus and all their science-y stuff went right?

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Post by Silver136 on Thu May 22, 2014 6:58 am

Wasn't the Collegiate one of the places Cogs hit? I can't remember.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by FeatherDust on Thu May 22, 2014 7:33 am

Exodus Hero wrote:Well this is all assuming Cogs is telling the truth, although she would have no reason to lie, I believe she is an unreliable source of information.
Last wrote:Could be wrong here but I'm thinking it's within the realm of posibility that Glory could just confirm or deny what Cogs already told BJ.
It's possible but again -- my opinion, it would be poor storytelling to go to lengths to explain why the easy answer can't happen and then have it happen anyway.

Silver136 wrote:Wasn't the Collegiate one of the places Cogs hit? I can't remember.
Yes, a few of the medical school buildings were hit but we don't know how much actual damage it did.  One of them appears to have been burned down, a second lost its roof, and a third had its facade torn off.
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Post by Guest on Thu May 22, 2014 12:53 pm

No, I don't think BJ can carry the baby. I just meant I think it's a waste of time to get a second confirmation for what we already know.

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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Vinylshadow on Thu May 22, 2014 12:57 pm

Wonder if whatever Cogs has planned needs a 'sacrifice'

Kinda like how the SPP needs a pony for it to work

Open tube, insert fetus...

Boy, I can see the flamewars already

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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Scienza on Thu May 22, 2014 7:28 pm

You know, I wonder whether a mechanical surrogate could be viable (sort of like the stasis tube that Psycho got sealed in).
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