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Post by Ironmonger Sat Dec 14, 2013 8:13 pm

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Post by O. Hinds Sat Dec 14, 2013 8:16 pm

...Okay, sorry, I can't figure out just what depth to put Scootaloo at, and the huge gap between the rails and the platform is causing me problems. I'll leave this to the clever people who made the original measurements for working out Equestrian Gauge.
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Post by cb5 Sat Dec 14, 2013 8:17 pm

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Once you're out does that mean there's not a single fuck left?
O. Hinds wrote:...Okay, sorry, I can't figure out just what depth to put Scootaloo at, and the huge gap between the rails and the platform is causing me problems.  I'll leave this to the clever people who made the original measurements for working out Equestrian Gauge.
That's cause you're trying to figure out a measurement with nothing that has a measurement for.  The ponies could be 2000 ft tall and we wouldn't know. To them a 5' to us could be 20000' for all we know.
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Post by Guest Sat Dec 14, 2013 8:25 pm

@cb5
Actually, most of the people doing this stuff use standards based on assumptions that some object - an average-sized apple, for instance - is the same size in both our worlds, and then work from there to establish sizes relative to that. So, as long as you allow the first assumption - which is not exactly hard to do; doubting it is more of an exercise in doubting than practicality - you can then find out other stuff. I'm not personally interested in it, but for those who are (like Hinds) it's definitely doable.

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Post by O. Hinds Sat Dec 14, 2013 8:26 pm

cb5 wrote:That's cause you're trying to figure out a measurement with nothing that has a measurement for. The ponies could be 2000 ft tall and we wouldn't know.
Actually, using the Candy Cane Scale, we've found average pony height to be 122cm.
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Post by O. Hinds Sat Dec 14, 2013 8:27 pm

Overlong Analysis Cobalt wrote:@cb5
Actually, most of the people doing this stuff use standards based on assumptions that some object - an average-sized apple, for instance - is the same size in both our worlds, and then work from there to establish sizes relative to that. So, as long as you allow the first assumption - which is not exactly hard to do; doubting it is more of an exercise in doubting than practicality - you can then find out other stuff. I'm not personally interested in it, but for those who are (like Hinds) it's definitely doable.
This doesn't actually seem to be a very good shot to do it with, though, since we can't tell how far back on the platform Scootaloo is.
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Yup started to think that during 60-61. Her worrying is justified and all of course.

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Post by Scyto Harmony Sat Dec 14, 2013 8:51 pm

Listening to this 'Gauge talk:

That isn't too offensive or anything for the least sensitive thread on the planet, is it?
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Post by Tytan Sat Dec 14, 2013 8:54 pm

Scyto Harmony wrote:
Listening to this 'Gauge talk:
My reaction to gauge talk:
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Post by cb5 Sat Dec 14, 2013 8:56 pm

Overlong Analysis Cobalt wrote:@cb5
Actually, most of the people doing this stuff use standards based on assumptions that some object - an average-sized apple, for instance - is the same size in both our worlds, and then work from there to establish sizes relative to that. So, as long as you allow the first assumption - which is not exactly hard to do; doubting it is more of an exercise in doubting than practicality - you can then find out other stuff. I'm not personally interested in it, but for those who are (like Hinds) it's definitely doable.
Problem 1:  It's a parallel universe to a human universe, and parallel universes potentially have different laws of physics. You can only make estimated guesses. It's like if someone from a parallel universe earth came to our earth and said that their earth had a negative moon orbiting their earth; to us that wouldn't make sense, but to them it would make perfect sense. My point is that you can make a estimated guess, but unless EqG's universe and equestria's universe both tried comparing how fast light travels in their own universes you're not going to get a accurate result. . .

However that runs into the horizon solution. The horizon solution is a solution to the horizon problem. The horizon problem simply put is that our universe in in a nutshell too big for amount of time that has past and that light would have had to travel faster in the past. The horizon solution states that it wasn't that the universe expanded faster than light or that light actually traveled faster, but that right after the big bang space itself was extremely compressed and that light did travel as fast as it does now, rather space was more compressed.

What's my point? You're never going to get a 100% accurate measurement because think of universes as like balloons. Their expansion is what is after their big bangs and that when they pop is when they reach heat death and entropy takes over tearing all matter to pieces and reducing everything back to nothing. Even if you try your best to have two balloons to fill up to similar sizes they're both going to expand at different rates and only at infinitely small instances be of equal sizes.

In order to get a accurate estimate you would have to compare the speed of light in Equestria and the EqG's universes.




I think I just WAY over-thought this.
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Post by Guest Sat Dec 14, 2013 9:13 pm

@cb5 ("I just WAY over-thought this")
Exactly. Technically, in order to make any accurate proposition, first you must verify that the universe exists. Since that's annoying to do every time (and also impossible! Because fuck you, Descartes, your proof was bad and you should feel bad), we just assume that the universe exists. It's just practical. Similarly, assuming that apples are the same size in Equestria and Earth is a matter of practicality - we will in all likelihood never encounter a problem created from that assumption, and it buys us everything else.

Of course an accurate result is impossible because the actual distance and size of everything in Equestria varies depending on how big your monitor is and what size you're playing the video at. =P The first assumption - one that we already KNOW is false, outside of weird shenanigansy stuff - is that Equestria is a real place. With this in mind, pretending that apples exist as the same in both universes is not a stretch.

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Post by Scyto Harmony Sat Dec 14, 2013 9:14 pm

I did find one part of the new episode oddly funny.:
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Post by cb5 Sat Dec 14, 2013 9:31 pm

Overlong Analysis Cobalt wrote:@cb5 ("I just WAY over-thought this")
Exactly. Technically, in order to make any accurate proposition, first you must verify that the universe exists. Since that's annoying to do every time (and also impossible! Because fuck you, Descartes, your proof was bad and you should feel bad), we just assume that the universe exists. It's just practical. Similarly, assuming that apples are the same size in Equestria and Earth is a matter of practicality - we will in all likelihood never encounter a problem created from that assumption, and it buys us everything else.

Of course an accurate result is impossible because the actual distance and size of everything in Equestria varies depending on how big your monitor is and what size you're playing the video at. =P The first assumption - one that we already KNOW is false, outside of weird shenanigansy stuff - is that Equestria is a real place. With this in mind, pretending that apples exist as the same in both universes is not a stretch.
You know what I hate in science fiction?  They never put in the possibility of different laws of physics potentially screwing up someone's head.  Realistically speaking if you were taken to a parallel universe that's almost identical to ours it would still cause BIG problems for the person.  I'm not talking about like, "ouchie that hurt", rather I mean like how in bioshock infinite the people booker killed and came back from the dead remembered being dead and screwed them up; or how when booker killed comstock his nose started bleeding.

If there are parallel universes or aliens that can travel between parallel universes then probably they would have to get special training how to deal with the effects of traveling between universes.  Hypothetically let's say all of a sudden our earth figured out how to travel to a parallel earth with almost identical physics; even though their laws of physics would be almost identical you would still have to get certified to travel there, take health classes, get regular checkups after traveling there and such they would have to make sure you're not going to try bash your head in or something.

Hypothetically if you wound up in a parallel universe earth where instead of the moon they had a negative moon how hard would it be for you to try to comprehending the idea of something that is in our universe impossible?


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Actually speaking of which Stargate & Stargate sg-1 when it first started out did something like this. When they went through the stargates they would spray the actors with a chemical to make it look like they have frost on them(I think that was before they did the parallel universe episodes). The reason why they stopped that and just started going, "lol just went through" is cause they found out the chemical they were spraying them with was toxic.
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That's pretty funny stuff there.
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Post by Guest Sat Dec 14, 2013 9:57 pm

If your a fan of resident evil Rainbow's initials are very interesting.

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Post by Tytan Sat Dec 14, 2013 10:04 pm

Sorry about the call Last, internet sharted.
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Post by Kattlarv Sat Dec 14, 2013 10:04 pm

@cb5: (porn) Quite simple. They don't perfectly align 107 % if you haven't noticed.
Some share common elements, but those are mainly DESIGNED for the other culture.

Also, for your other part: I've already said most of the things you are bringing up. Also, as said: lacking sex ed is a large problem. But "fixing" the porn norms would be overall good in about every single way. It'd mainly help with the addition of extra idealization. Since saying porn "doesn't do harm" or "contribute" anything to an issue is wrong. It's like saying a murderer doesn't cause any harm on their own, because they're only one person. It's not like they're part of some larger organization. But yeah, it'd cut down on the spectacle creep if anything. Plus, it'd give a large source of "better" porn a large amount of people wouldn't feel bad about watching.

@Last: (porn) I know... partially. Part of what I have to do IS repeat myself however. As I need to do it to almost every single new person. And currently no, as of now I don't have a rocket launcher or the like to be able to impact it on a global scale. But that said: The fuck you expect me to do? I don't have a huge influence. I can only attempt to chip away at it. If I'm at a place where 100 drug induced guys are running around skullfucking babies, and I got access to a container large enough for one baby, I can't do much more than smuggle out one baby at a time... and my analogies get really weird late at night...

@Swicked: (shy) I said that last week, twice xP
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Post by Ironmonger Sat Dec 14, 2013 10:59 pm

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Post by Guest Sat Dec 14, 2013 11:58 pm

Kattlarv wrote:
@Last: (porn) I know... partially. Part of what I have to do IS repeat myself however. As I need to do it to almost every single new person. And currently no, as of now I don't have a rocket launcher or the like to be able to impact it on a global scale. But that said: The fuck you expect me to do? I don't have a huge influence. I can only attempt to chip away at it. If I'm at a place where 100 drug induced guys are running around skullfucking babies, and I got access to a container large enough for one baby, I can't do much more than smuggle out one baby at a time... and my analogies get really weird late at night...

Well, the first steps to any movement should be (If that's what you're trying to do. Your wording implies you want to get famous in some way so you're words carry more weight. I'm really lost to yourmetmethods) making sure your goals are clearly defined. Only once that's done should you begin working on your methods. If I were you I'd start by coming up with a specific definition for what "Generic porn" is. As of right now I'm under the impression it's any adult film or pornographic image that contains a penis or any phallic object. Or a vagina not to your liking.



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Post by Frost Sun Dec 15, 2013 12:08 am

I've got the utmost respect for ya, Katt, but I don't think the Realistic Vagina Rights Movement is gonna get much traction.
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Post by StoneSlinger88 Sun Dec 15, 2013 12:21 am

There was a time when I was stuck with dial-up internet. All I had were these things called "still images". Had to fill it in with my imagination. A lot of video porn is just unappealing, they look like shaved drunken sasquatch trying to grapple.


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Post by Scienza Sun Dec 15, 2013 12:21 am

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Post by Guest Sun Dec 15, 2013 12:44 am

StoneSlinger88 wrote:There was a time when I was stuck with dial-up internet. All I had were these things called "still images". Had to fill it in with my imagination. A lot of video porn is just unappealing, they look like shaved drunken sasquatch trying to grapple.

Where's the hall of fame thread?

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Post by cb5 Sun Dec 15, 2013 1:44 am

I don't know what is wrong with me today. I'm not sick, don't have a fever or anything(both thermometers read 97 degrees farenheit), but I'm both cold and hot. I took a bath in scalding hot water and I'm still cold; hours later I take a bath in ice water and I'm still hot.
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Post by Stringtheory Sun Dec 15, 2013 1:46 am

cb5 wrote:I don't know what is wrong with me today.  I'm not sick, don't have a fever or anything(both thermometers read 97 degrees Fahrenheit), but I'm both cold and hot.  I took a bath in scalding hot water and I'm still cold; hours later I take a bath in ice water and I'm still hot.
That's about the time you should consider going to see a doctor...
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Post by cb5 Sun Dec 15, 2013 1:58 am

stringtheory wrote:
cb5 wrote:I don't know what is wrong with me today.  I'm not sick, don't have a fever or anything(both thermometers read 97 degrees Fahrenheit), but I'm both cold and hot.  I took a bath in scalding hot water and I'm still cold; hours later I take a bath in ice water and I'm still hot.
That's about the time you should consider going to see a doctor...
Yeah, I'm probably going to on monday or such. I'm one of those weird people that either keeps the thermostat very high or very low and hates it when you set it to 70, but this is ridiculous. I feel perfectly fine which is the strange part and nothing seems wrong.
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Post by O. Hinds Sun Dec 15, 2013 8:16 am

So this is strange. My wireless internet keeps going out (I'm typing this during one of the periods when it's working)... except for Tor. Tor doesn't even notice the whatever-it-is that makes my iPod and everything else on my laptop unable to connect to the internet over the Wi-Fi.
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Post by Ironmonger Sun Dec 15, 2013 8:17 am

Mark actually managed to make watching this a little intense, in my opinion.

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