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Post by Katarn Wed Oct 23, 2013 12:36 pm

Someone said Princest?
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Post by Ironmonger Wed Oct 23, 2013 12:38 pm

Katarn wrote:Someone said Princest?
The impure thoughts, they invade my mind, wreaking havoc on my attention span and productivity! Crazy 

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Post by Tytan Wed Oct 23, 2013 12:57 pm

Ironmonger wrote:
Katarn wrote:Someone said Princest?
The impure thoughts, they invade my mind, wreaking havoc on my attention span and productivity! Crazy 
Tis the taint of Slaneesh. Thou must bathe in the holy light of the emperor, receive thy purifying flogging, and taketh a cold shower.
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Post by Katarn Wed Oct 23, 2013 12:59 pm

Tea party is serious business.
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Post by Ironmonger Wed Oct 23, 2013 1:13 pm

Tytan wrote:
Ironmonger wrote:
Katarn wrote:Someone said Princest?
The impure thoughts, they invade my mind, wreaking havoc on my attention span and productivity! Crazy 
Tis the taint of Slaneesh. Thou must bathe in the holy light of the emperor, receive thy purifying flogging, and taketh a cold shower.
Oh, no, I'm fine with the taint of Slaanesh-I mean I will flog myself, and have a maniacal clown salt my wounds to make the experience better-I mean a better spiritual reinforcement. I'll manface my way through the pain by later practicing my blastmaster-I mean piano.

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Post by Tytan Wed Oct 23, 2013 1:26 pm

Ironmonger wrote:
Tytan wrote:
Ironmonger wrote:
Katarn wrote:Someone said Princest?
The impure thoughts, they invade my mind, wreaking havoc on my attention span and productivity! Crazy 
Tis the taint of Slaneesh. Thou must bathe in the holy light of the emperor, receive thy purifying flogging, and taketh a cold shower.
Oh, no, I'm fine with the taint of Slaanesh-I mean I will flog myself, and have a maniacal clown salt my wounds to make the experience better-I mean a better spiritual reinforcement. I'll manface my way through the pain by later practicing my blastmaster-I mean piano.
I'm watching thou supplicant:
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Post by Kippershy Wed Oct 23, 2013 2:02 pm

Tytan wrote:
Ironmonger wrote:
Tytan wrote:
Ironmonger wrote:
Katarn wrote:Someone said Princest?
The impure thoughts, they invade my mind, wreaking havoc on my attention span and productivity! Crazy 
Tis the taint of Slaneesh. Thou must bathe in the holy light of the emperor, receive thy purifying flogging, and taketh a cold shower.
Oh, no, I'm fine with the taint of Slaanesh-I mean I will flog myself, and have a maniacal clown salt my wounds to make the experience better-I mean a better spiritual reinforcement. I'll manface my way through the pain by later practicing my blastmaster-I mean piano.
I'm watching thou supplicant:
The emperor was a bit of a douchebag.
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Post by Tytan Wed Oct 23, 2013 2:58 pm

Kippershy wrote:
Tytan wrote:
Ironmonger wrote:
Tytan wrote:
Ironmonger wrote:
Katarn wrote:Someone said Princest?
The impure thoughts, they invade my mind, wreaking havoc on my attention span and productivity! Crazy 
Tis the taint of Slaneesh. Thou must bathe in the holy light of the emperor, receive thy purifying flogging, and taketh a cold shower.
Oh, no, I'm fine with the taint of Slaanesh-I mean I will flog myself, and have a maniacal clown salt my wounds to make the experience better-I mean a better spiritual reinforcement. I'll manface my way through the pain by later practicing my blastmaster-I mean piano.
I'm watching thou supplicant:
The emperor was a bit of a douchebag.
Well yeah, dude won't even let you enjoy a good flogging with a clown in your down time.
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Post by O. Hinds Wed Oct 23, 2013 2:59 pm

So does anyone here have any clue why the solutions to (x^2)y''+xy'+0.25((x^2)-1)y=0 are just the Bessel solutions to (x^2)y''+xy'+((x^2)-0.25)y=0? Because both Wolfram and the back of the book say that they are, and I have no idea why. With x=2z (which the book in the problem tells me to use), the DE becomes 4(z^2)y''+2zy'+((z^2)-0.25)y=0=((z^2)y''+zy'+((z^2)-0.25)y)+(3(z^2)y''+zy'), and I've tried thrice, twice manually and once with Wolfram, to not get 3(z^2)y''+zy'/=0 for y being a Bessel solution to (x^2)y''+xy'+((x^2)-0.25)y=0. It is not zero, I am confident, but then how can the coefficients not change the solution?
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Post by Kippershy Wed Oct 23, 2013 3:04 pm

...Question. How will that shit ever make a difference to your everyday life?
I understand you're an engineering student and thus complex equations are expected from you, but even when designing or expanding upon something, I fail to see how such logic flow would ever become a necessity.
It can't be more efficient to do things that way when they can simply be said in a more layman's expres​sion(even if they still aren't easy for Average Joe, but at least something that makes more sense than that.)
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Post by Guest Wed Oct 23, 2013 3:05 pm

Scyto/Swicked bait? She's drawn in the adventure time style:

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Post by brony all alone Wed Oct 23, 2013 3:08 pm

my eyes dont hurt looking at the moon. Luna brings forth the peaceful, calm, quiet moon. sun causes drought, sunburns, moon causes peace and serenity. and with winter coming up, days are shorter, nights longer. luna is awesome. celestia is a troll and and something i dont think i can say aloud*molestia*. as of now can we land on the sun? NO. moon? yes. lunas best princess. if theres ever a war about it. i would die for the true best princess. ALL HAIL LUNA! DOWN WITH CELESTIA! who agrees with me!?
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Post by O. Hinds Wed Oct 23, 2013 3:08 pm

Kippershy wrote:...Question. How will that shit ever make a difference to your everyday life?
I understand you're an engineering student and thus complex equations are expected from you, but even when designing or expanding upon something, I fail to see how such logic flow would ever become a necessity.
It can't be more efficient to do things that way when they can simply be said in a more layman's expres​sion(even if they still aren't easy for Average Joe, but at least something that makes more sense than that.)
Bessel functions crop up a lot in cylindrically symmetric circumstances, it seems.
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Post by O. Hinds Wed Oct 23, 2013 3:11 pm

As to why the logic flow matters, well, yeah, Wolfram's given me what seems to be the correct solution.  If I don't know why that's the correct solution, though, how am I to solve these sorts of problems when I don't have access to Wolfram or an equivalent?  And how am I to run a "Does this answer make sense?" check if I'm calibrated to think that the correct answer doesn't make sense?
Does that answer your question? I'm afraid that I was a bit confused by it, so I'm not sure if I answered what you actually asked.
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Post by Scienza Wed Oct 23, 2013 3:20 pm

brony all alone wrote: my eyes dont hurt looking at the moon. Luna brings forth the peaceful, calm, quiet moon. sun causes drought, sunburns, moon causes peace and serenity. and with winter coming up, days are shorter, nights longer. luna is awesome. celestia is a troll and and something i dont think i can say aloud*molestia*. as of now can we land on the sun? NO. moon? yes. lunas best princess. if theres ever a war about it. i would die for the true best princess. ALL HAIL LUNA! DOWN WITH CELESTIA! who agrees with me!?
You shall silence your sedition! Shall you praise the traitor, who strangled the lifeblood of Equestria with crushing darkness, starving our children and ripping away their futures? No! All hail the true Goddess, who has stayed by her people for more than a thousand years. With each year, her will grew stronger. Her love grew stronger.

It is better to be blinded by the light than to live in darkness.

Praise the Goddess! Praise Celestia!
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Post by O. Hinds Wed Oct 23, 2013 3:24 pm

Okay, I've found something online that says that this is a rule; if the difference from a basic Bessel ODE is just (a^2)(x^2)-v instead of (x^2)-v, the solutions will just use J(ax) instead of J(x). Still no idea why, though, and I'm not sure if "The internet said that this was true" is a valid way to solve this problem.
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Post by O. Hinds Wed Oct 23, 2013 3:27 pm

Oh, and from the same website, some additional stuff to (hopefully) answer Kippershy's question:
"The special Bessel functions are widely used in solving problems of theoretical physics, for example in investigating
wave propagation;
heat conduction;
vibrations of membranes
in the systems with cylindrical or spherical symmetry. "
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Post by O. Hinds Wed Oct 23, 2013 3:45 pm

Well, I have more work to do, so I've just decided to go with the rule. Hopefully I won't lose points, or at least not too many, and hopefully the professor will explain this.
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Post by Kippershy Wed Oct 23, 2013 3:51 pm

O. Hinds wrote:As to why the logic flow matters, well, yeah, Wolfram's given me what seems to be the correct solution.  If I don't know why that's the correct solution, though, how am I to solve these sorts of problems when I don't have access to Wolfram or an equivalent?  And how am I to run a "Does this answer make sense?" check if I'm calibrated to think that the correct answer doesn't make sense?
Does that answer your question?  I'm afraid that I was a bit confused by it, so I'm not sure if I answered what you actually asked.
Yeah, I get why you'd need to understand the how of what matters about it. If you can't understand how something works you can't replicate it, only imitate.
Still, I just can't understand why such equations would be necessary in the first place. Not from you, but from the people who put them there to begin with.
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Post by brony all alone Wed Oct 23, 2013 3:56 pm

LUNA IS THE TRUE BEST PRINCESS
ULFRIC IS TRUE HIGH KING

equestria girls is on saturd ay should i watch it.
1-10 your like of it 1 hate 10 awesome
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Post by Kippershy Wed Oct 23, 2013 4:27 pm

7, better than I expected though still had some awkward moments. Overall I liked it.
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Post by CamoBadger Wed Oct 23, 2013 4:30 pm

Didn't watch it. Guessed 90% of plot before it came out. Don't see a reason to torture myself.
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Post by Ironmonger Wed Oct 23, 2013 4:33 pm

I got only a few minutes into EQG before I started snarking at everything.

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Post by O. Hinds Wed Oct 23, 2013 4:42 pm

Kippershy wrote:
O. Hinds wrote:As to why the logic flow matters, well, yeah, Wolfram's given me what seems to be the correct solution.  If I don't know why that's the correct solution, though, how am I to solve these sorts of problems when I don't have access to Wolfram or an equivalent?  And how am I to run a "Does this answer make sense?" check if I'm calibrated to think that the correct answer doesn't make sense?
Does that answer your question?  I'm afraid that I was a bit confused by it, so I'm not sure if I answered what you actually asked.
Yeah, I get why you'd need to understand the how of what matters about it. If you can't understand how something works you can't replicate it, only imitate.
Still, I just can't understand why such equations would be necessary in the first place. Not from you, but from the people who put them there to begin with.
How else would we model things for which simpler math is inadequate?

Also, I've given up on the assignment for now. There are only 2-4 problems left on it, and hopefully tomorrow's class will be sufficiently enlightening (or at least sufficiently due-date-extending).
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Post by cb5 Wed Oct 23, 2013 4:58 pm

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Last wrote:I'm not familiar with Ebay, the age thing at the bottom means who the toy is apropriate for? I get the feeling the person who made that plush didn't read the story.

Though I highly doubt anyone would put out that kind of money for a character they're unfamiliar (It is just a stuffed animal afterall) with. So i guess it really doesn't matter.
Plushies in this fandom sell for a metric crap ton of money.
To adult fans. I meant that I don't see this being bought by a kid so the whole age thing doesn't matter.

Though I do think people who haven't read PH would buy it. I've said it before BJ's design is pretty generic. Black, Red and white are popular colors Unicorn is a popular race. So I can see someone buying it as an OC substitute. Though then again if you're willing to spend that kind of money for a plushie of your OC you could probably just commision the... Artist? Is there a specific term for someone who sews?
Look at the current bid.  The current bid is already up to $150.
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Post by Guest Wed Oct 23, 2013 5:00 pm

@EQG1-10
Uh, six, I guess? It was better than it probably should have been, but it wasn't something I'd watch again.

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Post by Kattlarv Wed Oct 23, 2013 5:09 pm

@... whomever it now was: (Platypus) I really should make my garuruplatus...

@EP: Guys, did I ever mention that I totally came up with silver spoons special talent?

@Baa: (best)  And Gummy is pest pone.

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Post by cb5 Wed Oct 23, 2013 5:15 pm

brony all alone wrote:equestria girls is on saturd ay should i watch it.
1-10  your like of it 1 hate 10 awesome
It's a six.  It's a mediocre movie.  The reason why it's mediocre though is that they took a 20 minute story line and extended it to 90 minutes by hitting everyone with the idiot stick.

If you take a shot of alcohol every time a character acts like a idiot you're going to be dead of alcohol poisoning within the first twenty minutes.

It should have just been a tv special episode.  If they had just made it into a twenty minute special episode it would have been a eight out of ten.

Overall review:  6 out of 10.  Best viewed when buzzed.  Worth a one time rental.
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Post by Scienza Wed Oct 23, 2013 5:20 pm

brony all alone wrote:equestria girls is on saturd ay should i watch it.
1-10  your like of it 1 hate 10 awesome
I'm going to say 5. It was a cute, decently animated high school drama, but it was still a high school drama. While the writing wasn't terrible, it was still something of a step down. I didn't really care for the plot, the music (the only song that I didn't immediately forget was Helping Twilight Win the Crown, and that wasn't even close to the last uber-catchy group song, True, True Friend), or the setting. I really wasn't into the character designs.

And let's not even get started on Brad.

LUNA IS THE TRUE BEST PRINCESS
ULFRIC IS TRUE HIGH KING
I think I've mentioned this before, but the Stormcloaks are kinda racist assholes to literally everyone who isn't a Nord.

Also, YOU LIE! PRAISE THE GODDESS! PRAISE CELESTIA!


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Post by Tytan Wed Oct 23, 2013 5:21 pm

@Katt. Yes, but everyone except you knew what I was talking about, because no one ever talks about the other one.
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