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Post by Frost Thu Sep 05, 2013 8:57 pm

Harmony Ltd. wrote:Remember when we were talking about "rape culture" ?

http://www.wired.com/underwire/2013/09/penny-arcade-expo-dickwolves/
Are you familiar with the term "Confirmation Bias", Harmony? Because virtually all the articles you've linked on the matter are from the same viewpoint--that rape is some absolute taboo that has to be handled with the same care as an active landmine, less thousands of lives be ruined and dozens of normal people flip and turn into ravaging monsters.

I would also seek to familiarize you with the term "Beating a dead horse", because everyone but you dropped this topic about a day after it was brought up the first time.
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Post by Harmony Ltd. Thu Sep 05, 2013 9:04 pm

Regarding confirmation bias, I know of the concept, yes. If you are of another opinion, you are welcome to bring it up if you so wish, and maybe we could have an healthy discussion on the subject.

If however you are not interested in it, then nothing stops you from not taking part in it, and to skip the posts you find uninteresting.

As for the beating of dead animals, look back at my signature.
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Post by Frost Thu Sep 05, 2013 9:18 pm

I've made my feelings quite clear on the subject, and I have little interest in dredging the discussion back up unless you'd like to have the same discussion again. If not, then let's move right along.
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Post by Harmony Ltd. Thu Sep 05, 2013 9:23 pm

So be it.
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Post by cb5 Thu Sep 05, 2013 9:23 pm

*edit*
Whoops, posted after you guys.
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Post by Kattlarv Thu Sep 05, 2013 10:02 pm

Mwahaha! Both my Rarity and Celestia+Twilight plots has been finished now... now all I need to wait for is the finale.

@EP: (Sunset) Personally disappoint on how many that make her a male in 18+ art.

And woo! Almost done with two of my fics! ... none are which I've anticipated... but yay?
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Post by cb5 Thu Sep 05, 2013 10:07 pm

Kattlarv wrote:Mwahaha! Both my Rarity and Celestia+Twilight plots has been finished now... now all I need to wait for is the finale.

@EP: (Sunset) Personally disappoint on how many that make her a male in 18+ art.
I swing both ways so I don't mind when people do this.
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Post by Stringtheory Thu Sep 05, 2013 10:13 pm

Kattlarv wrote:Mwahaha! Both my Rarity and Celestia+Twilight plots has been finished now... now all I need to wait for is the finale.

@EP: (Sunset) Personally disappoint on how many that make her a male in 18+ art.

And woo! Almost done with two of my fics! ... none are which I've anticipated... but yay?
I know I found you on FIMfiction, but now I've forgotten it, care to remind me?
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Post by Frost Thu Sep 05, 2013 10:24 pm

cb5 wrote:
Kattlarv wrote:Mwahaha! Both my Rarity and Celestia+Twilight plots has been finished now... now all I need to wait for is the finale.

@EP: (Sunset) Personally disappoint on how many that make her a male in 18+ art.
I swing both ways so I don't mind when people do this.
A disproportionate number of us here on the forum seem to swing both ways.

I personally, am not opposed to R63 art, so long as all parties are actually R63. Making just one of the parties R63 for the purpose of making it heterosexual as opposed to lesbian or, god forbid, male homosexual, is just weird and rather unfortunate.
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Post by cb5 Thu Sep 05, 2013 10:39 pm

Mister Frost wrote:
cb5 wrote:
Kattlarv wrote:Mwahaha! Both my Rarity and Celestia+Twilight plots has been finished now... now all I need to wait for is the finale.

@EP: (Sunset) Personally disappoint on how many that make her a male in 18+ art.
I swing both ways so I don't mind when people do this.
A disproportionate number of us here on the forum seem to swing both ways.
If you read alfred kinsey's research into human sexuality you'll know why.  Short version far more people have homosexual or bisexual tendencies than the number of people that are openly bisexual or homosexual.  I think he reported as high as about 3 out of 20 people had bisexual or homosexual tendencies.  The reason why is that if you openly ask someone "are you gay or bisexual?" a lot of people will outright deny it.  If you ask a bunch of questions about their sexuality it's WAY higher than if you just outright ask them.  The reason is pretty simple they constantly buy ferry tickets down de nile.

The reason why it seems so disproportionate is the generation to just just reach adulthood is the first generation in a long time where being homosexual or bisexual was not the ultimate social taboo by your peers.

San Fransisco is the city in the usa with the highest rate of glbt being around ~10%, but glbt are not actually flocking like birds to the city.  The most logical explanation is that the city just does not have the social taboo against glbt.

Tl:dr; It's not disproportionate rather the majority of the people on here are part of the age group where the social stigma against being glbt is losing it's grip on society and thus more people accept their sexuality and thus it seems disproportionate.
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Post by Frost Thu Sep 05, 2013 10:54 pm

cb5 wrote:
Mister Frost wrote:
cb5 wrote:
Kattlarv wrote:Mwahaha! Both my Rarity and Celestia+Twilight plots has been finished now... now all I need to wait for is the finale.

@EP: (Sunset) Personally disappoint on how many that make her a male in 18+ art.
I swing both ways so I don't mind when people do this.
A disproportionate number of us here on the forum seem to swing both ways.
If you read alfred kinsey's research into human sexuality you'll know why.  Short version far more people have homosexual or bisexual tendencies than the number of people that are openly bisexual or homosexual.  I think he reported as high as about 3 out of 20 people had bisexual or homosexual tendencies.  The reason why is that if you openly ask someone "are you gay or bisexual?" a lot of people will outright deny it.  If you ask a bunch of questions about their sexuality it's WAY higher than if you just outright ask them.  The reason is pretty simple they constantly buy ferry tickets down de nile.

The reason why it seems so disproportionate is the generation to just just reach adulthood is the first generation in a long time where being homosexual or bisexual was not the ultimate social taboo by your peers.

San Fransisco is the city in the usa with the highest rate of glbt being around ~10%, but glbt are not actually flocking like birds to the city.  The most logical explanation is that the city just does not have the social taboo against glbt.

Tl:dr; It's not disproportionate rather the majority of the people on here are part of the age group where the social stigma against being glbt is losing it's grip on society and thus more people accept their sexuality and thus it seems disproportionate.
I'm aware that most people, according to Kinsey's research, fall between 0 and 6 on the scale (having a degree of attraction to both genders rather than being exclusively attracted to one gender) but most still profess to exclusive heterosexuality or exclusive homosexuality (obviously more to the former) but it's up for debate whether that's due to most peoples' same-sex attraction being so small as to be easily dismissed, or if it is, as you mentioned, repression. Much fiction set in the future portrays bisexuality as the norm, incidentally.
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Post by cb5 Thu Sep 05, 2013 11:00 pm

Mister Frost wrote:I'm aware that most people, according to Kinsey's research, fall between 0 and 6 on the scale (having a degree of attraction to both genders rather than being exclusively attracted to one gender) but most still profess to exclusive heterosexuality or exclusive homosexuality (obviously more to the former) but it's up for debate whether that's due to most peoples' same-sex attraction being so small as to be easily dismissed, or if it is, as you mentioned, repression. Much fiction set in the future portrays bisexuality as the norm, incidentally.
Actually funny story.  Back in the days of ancient greece and such it was considered weird to be exclusively straight.  Like if you walked into Sparta and went, "I'm straight" they'd be like, "dafuq?"
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Post by Frost Thu Sep 05, 2013 11:06 pm

cb5 wrote:
Mister Frost wrote:I'm aware that most people, according to Kinsey's research, fall between 0 and 6 on the scale (having a degree of attraction to both genders rather than being exclusively attracted to one gender) but most still profess to exclusive heterosexuality or exclusive homosexuality (obviously more to the former) but it's up for debate whether that's due to most peoples' same-sex attraction being so small as to be easily dismissed, or if it is, as you mentioned, repression. Much fiction set in the future portrays bisexuality as the norm, incidentally.
Actually funny story.  Back in the days of ancient greece and such it was considered weird to be exclusively straight.  Like if you walked into Sparta and went, "I'm straight" they'd be like, "dafuq?"
Even later than that. Richard 'The Lionheart', for instance, was most likely bisexual
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Post by Moodyman90 Thu Sep 05, 2013 11:08 pm

Yeah, you wasn't considered a real man if you only wanted to have sex with women. REAL men had sex with just about everything.

The line in the movie 300 about how the men of Athens was "boy lovers" was just as true for Sparta than anywhere else. Sparta is also the place where if you wasn't strong or smart enough to bed your chosen mate, you could pay a stronger guy to do it for you.
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Post by cb5 Thu Sep 05, 2013 11:12 pm

Mister Frost wrote:
cb5 wrote:
Mister Frost wrote:I'm aware that most people, according to Kinsey's research, fall between 0 and 6 on the scale (having a degree of attraction to both genders rather than being exclusively attracted to one gender) but most still profess to exclusive heterosexuality or exclusive homosexuality (obviously more to the former) but it's up for debate whether that's due to most peoples' same-sex attraction being so small as to be easily dismissed, or if it is, as you mentioned, repression. Much fiction set in the future portrays bisexuality as the norm, incidentally.
Actually funny story.  Back in the days of ancient greece and such it was considered weird to be exclusively straight.  Like if you walked into Sparta and went, "I'm straight" they'd be like, "dafuq?"
Even later than that. Richard 'The Lionheart', for instance, was most likely bisexual
I just remembered something there's some debate over whether or not James Buchanan was gay and whether or not he was intimate with his vice president.  The reason being is they shared their house and if you read the letters the two sent back and forth it's REALLY suspect.  I don't know whether or not I'm reading a letter of correspondence on politics to the reader or someone's trying to seduce me.
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Post by Frost Thu Sep 05, 2013 11:18 pm

cb5 wrote:  I don't know whether or not I'm reading a letter of correspondence on politics to the reader or someone's trying to seduce me.
#Bill Clinton
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Post by O. Hinds Thu Sep 05, 2013 11:41 pm

Harmony Ltd. wrote:
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Harmony Ltd. wrote:You know, I'd like to see the "Pentagon War" version making fun of the JSF program, ten to twenty years from now.
Hey, yeah!

Also, funny that this should come up now; we'll be watching "The Pentagon Wars" next week in my Systems Engineering class (though I've already seen it).
"Wait, it is single-engined ?"
"Yes, and don't ask about how much payload it can carry."
Hah!
"But hey, look at the tradeoff: VTOL and supersonic capability in the same plane! Well, in one variant. Once we finish ironing out the bugs..."
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Post by StoneSlinger88 Thu Sep 05, 2013 11:50 pm

On the subject of sexuality, who knows? Might be we're moving into a time where, as individuals emotional attraction is starting to take over in our choices to a degree that it's outweighing the physical (what we'd generally have an attraction to), thus negating the need for strictly hetero/homosexual labels and attitudes.
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Post by Frost Fri Sep 06, 2013 12:04 am

I don't think that to be the case, honestly. Most people don't like a partner being too hairy/chubby/ect, so I think a feature as big as gender isn't something we're quite moving past yet.
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Post by StoneSlinger88 Fri Sep 06, 2013 12:11 am

Couldn't resist putting this here.
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Post by Frost Fri Sep 06, 2013 12:40 am

"I've murdered eighteen people, and I'm wanted in six states"
"I'll help you bury the bodies."
"I'm a serial arsonist."
"We'll get an asbestos-insulated house."
"I've given birth nine times. I can't afford abortion, so I just spread my legs above a wood chipper."
"We'll have a well-fertilized lawn."
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Post by Tytan Fri Sep 06, 2013 2:13 am

Unfortunately I don't think it's from anything. Mad just has a way of telling a story with a picture like nobody else.
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Post by Tytan Fri Sep 06, 2013 2:15 am

Blossomforth needs more love.:
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Post by cb5 Fri Sep 06, 2013 2:27 am

Blossomforth is one of my favorite ponies.
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Post by Tytan Fri Sep 06, 2013 2:29 am

Cb. You need an avatar. Who do you incorrectly believe is best pony?
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Post by Tytan Fri Sep 06, 2013 3:56 am

Colored Cubone:
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Post by Katarn Fri Sep 06, 2013 4:07 am

Nice one.
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Post by Guest Fri Sep 06, 2013 4:15 am

Well, this is the most terrifying thing I've read recently. Remote possibility of transmission, yes, but I really do not like the idea of prion diseases. Ever since reading a novelization of that X-Files episode with Creutzfeldt-Jakob, it's been a pet fear.

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Post by Valikdu Fri Sep 06, 2013 5:50 am

Tytan wrote:
Blossomforth needs more love.:
She has flexibility.

And CK has reach.:
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Post by Kattlarv Fri Sep 06, 2013 11:10 am

@cb5+string+frost: Firstly, the "plot" part is actually pictures I arranged to have made xP One of which is a super obvious pun from season 3 none has made so far.a
Secondly, regarding r63, in that I include any addition of the male genitalia on a female character (and the counterpart happens too rarely to even mention) just for the sake of making it "straight" per say, or adding a penis so "they CAN have sex". But eh, I've ranted enough about how much I dislike plot convenience, ooc (oh gummy how I hate when people swap or apply certain personalities just because they changed gender) and cock worship.
And lastly: personally doubt anyone will "like" my new fics per say. One is just meant to be a satire or what to call it. Prodding fun at the generic porn norm and whatnot.

@EP: Ah, blossomforth, one of the few mares that can auto-lingate xD
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