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Post by StoneSlinger88 on Thu Feb 28, 2013 6:47 pm

The zebras were doing most of the dying when trying to take Hoofington. Equipping them and sending them to battle just to have them make virtually no headway would be very expensive. The cyberzebras might be able to make bigger dents with a similar or smaller pricetag, since they could withstand attacks that would kill a normal zebra several times over.

As for the flesh covering them, maybe they would be mixing in with the regular units, as we first saw in the transfer of the Pheonix Talisman. That way, the Equestrian forces couldn't tell them apart until the battle was already going, and by that time it would be too late to request heavier firepower and reinforcements to prevent the ponies from having to retreat.
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Post by swicked on Thu Feb 28, 2013 11:52 pm

Kay, so... yeah. This took a very long time.
It was fun, but exhausting and I won't do it again, I don't think... at least, not without significant encouragement and/or free time :P

So... yeah. This is my Little Miss Rarity and Lumpy Space Princess paired review of chapter 54. I hope the two people that thought this was a good idea, one of which having reminded me to do it after I forgot last chapter, receive all the enjoyment from it that they anticipated.

Oh, and maybe it'll be useful for the writing team, too. It's kinda hard to tell with something like this.

That said:
Disclaimer:


Hello! Welcome to the disclaimer! I am your hostess, Friendly Twilight, and I just thought I’d mention a few things.

I don’t like using my username in these sorts of things, particularly since the image is of someone clearly not me. However, I am not about to act as the real LMR, so the resultant is basically LMR if she just had my personality. The LMR in this review should not be confused with the one on LMJ’s blog, is what I’m saying. I rather dislike her personality, after all.

Confusing enough? Good! On with the show!


Oh, andthefollowingisanonprofitfan-basedparodyFalloutEquestriaProjectHorizonsLittleMissRarityandLumpySpacePrincessareownedbyKkatSomberLittleMissJayandCartoonNetworkrespectivelypleasesupporttheofficialrelease.
UnlessyoucountHasbroandBethesdabutIamnotgoingtothiswholethingisconfusingenoughasitis.

Do NOT continue if you are not a fan of Adventure Time:

Huh. So this Somber pony finally decided to post another chapter...

Oh my glob, I am totally gonna write the nastiest review... it’ll be so lumping AWESOME all the other commenters will be all “Ooo! Burn! You got him LSP!” And I’ll be all “I know... I’m, like, totally the best reviewer ever, right?” “Oh yeah, you’re awesome, we want all up on your lumps!” and I’ll be all “Well YOU CAN’T HAVE THEM!” and they’ll be all “awwww” and I’ll be “YEAH!” and...

LSP, what are you... oh my gosh, get away from there!

Pfft, yeah, right, whatever... you KNOW they all want somma this!

LSP, this is for reviewing stories... You’ve never even read, let alone reviewed, a fic. A bunch of people read my reviews every time. I don’t even particularly know why, but hey, if they like it, then-

-they’re clearly ready for a taste of the lumpy space! Come on, give it, I’m gonna do this one.

...are you honestly going to read the chapter?

...wait, seriously? There isn’t a movie or something, yet? Why are you reading stuff that doesn’t have a movie?

...that’s what I thought. How about we do it together, then?

...ugh, well, I guess that’d be kinda cool... heh, come on, let’s totally wreck this fic!

Right, kay. Testing, one, two... LMR and LSP

BFFS OMFG!!!

*facehoof* ...reviews are go.
***

Nice to see Deus is getting a decent amount of attention, here. As for Rampage’s armor, though... who keeps re-forging it for her? Doesn’t it get blown apart in most battles? I think she got at least one shelling last chapter... if it broke at all, it should quickly turn into a twisted mess. Maybe she batters it straight again, though? *shrug*

Oh my glob, yeah, that look is totally terrible.

It’s supposed to be more practical than pretty.

But, like... it’s ugly.

...so?

WHY would it work?

The metal... it doesn’t really protect her, yeah, it’s just sort of... sharp.

And all those belts? Whatever, I don’t, like, get it? I totally don’t even know what I’m looking at, here.

I... uh. I... okay.

The blue one in the cowboy hat, though…

Hold that thought.
***
If all went according to plan, the Harbingers would see us go and not bother Chapel any longer.

...no. Blackjack, Dawn threatened to shell Chapel when she was 100% sure you WEREN’T inside it and nearly got you to hand over the program. If you leave it entirely, the whole town’s more likely to become a hostage than it is to suddenly be safe. They targeted it due to your relationship with it, not your proximity, just like Sanguine.
***
Whoever put him in that thing had been pretty methodical about it. First charge would have disabled the case holding his brain and severed his connection to the tank. The second would have scrapped the life support, then the repair talisman, and finally the engine itself.”

So... their plan was to destroy two things that were not the repair talisman, then the repair talisman? I guess, if they were all going off at the same time, P-21 could have really listed them in any order, though.
...your thoughts, LSP?

Ugh, I don’t know, is this, like, math or something?

Come on, LSP, just try.

Kay, um... well, he’s really thin and kinda cute... but he’s talking about weird stuff, so... a 4?

...okay! Moving on, then!
***
And if they tried to use Chapel as a hostage against me again... well... I think at that point I was entitled to go Yellow River on the Harbingers. Besides, given the defenses Chapel was building up, there’d be the chance of an embarrassing defeat by a bunch of foals.

...they were presumably controlling at least one, maybe several, steel rangers. They were capable of getting a tank. They’ve regularly been seen with anti-machine rifles. They could EASILY still take chapel, even with Blackjack and company there, since there aren’t enough chapel residents in fighting condition anymore. Harbringers have never been shown to have any pride. They will gladly sacrifice legions of ponies to achieve their one goal, not unlike Red Eye.

Kay, yeah, those guys sound pretty serious and junk.

Yeah, and yet there’s so much worse out there, too.

Why don’t they, I don’t know, get a life, though?

Because then we wouldn’t have a story to read.

...oh, yeah. I guess that makes sense.
***
“Those are going to make you fat, Blackjack,” Scotch Tape opined with a snicker.

GOING to?

I know, right? I’ve been thinking that for a while now. She particularly eats so much more metal than she could ever be expelling.

...so she used to be thin?

...no, she’s always been pretty husky, even back when all she ate from day to day was waste chips.

...what.

Recycled waste turned back into food.

WHAT

You see, they were in this shelter where they needed a steady food supply for hundreds of years-

THAT IS SO LUMPING GROSS

Yes it... holy crud, you’re turning green. That is... that is REALLY green. We’re taking a break, be right back!

***
*intermission music, doot doo, doot doo, doodily doo!*
***


Kay, we’re back, and LSP is all better now.

Yeah, right. Ugh, tastes like... huh. Actually, not that bad. Anyway, got any soda?

There’s some club soda in the fridge.

*sip* *spit* This is not soda. This is awful.

...there’s also cream soda.

Ah. *sip* Much better.

Kay, we should probably go back to, you know, “reviewing”, now.
***
Maybe it was kicking the Med-X, but he looked pretty good. Then again, he’d always looked good… not flyer-good, but still…

OOO! OOO! OOO! OOO! OOO! OOO! OOO!

...please don’t start; everyone will hate us.

But-

NO

...ugh, fine, whatever.
***
Rampage snickered. “Oh, come on. Deus couldn’t go five minutes without a ‘cunt’.” P-21 looked at her coolly, and the striped mare blinked. “What?”
“I’d appreciate it if you didn’t use language like that around my daughter,” he said primly. I shared a look with Glory and suppressed a laugh.
“Oh, really? What should I use?” Rampage asked with a grin. “Sugar pot?”
“Vagina would be the most accurate,” Glory offered.
“Hoo-hah,” Twister suggested.
“Vertical smile?” Sunset said with a grin.
“I usually just call it my turbine,” Scotch said as she rubbed her chin thoughtfully, then looked at me, “cause it makes me hum.”

...I don’t get it, what are they talking about?

...oh, right, lumpy space. Well... it’s stuff lumpy space people don’t have.

Ah, I always thought your bodies were a bit weird, all smooth and junk.

Yup, we’re a bunch of freaks.

Well, I wasn’t going to say it to your face, but...
***

Wow, these ponies use a lot of innuendoes. Kinda weird.

You’ll get no arguments from me. ...though this whole conversation is kinda weird, in general. Particularly Glory considering being with someone other than Blackjack. I guess that’d make them both swingers.

...what does swinging have to do with this?

What? No, swinging means they’d be... um. It’s like cheating, only the other person knows about it.

Oh my glob, what is wrong with these ponies!? There’re so weird and junk! Wasn’t this fic supposed to be all action-y and stuff, anyway!?

Give it time; Somber’s just doing a thing right now.
***
She didn’t love me, and maybe I didn’t love her.

Well, that’s new.

Blackjack, stay with Glory! I believe in you!

You don’t even know her!

But I know love, and they have it! Beautiful, beautiful LOVE.

Groan...
***
As the evening gloom deepened, I started wishing that the Harbingers would attack.
Relax, Blackjack. I’m sure that we’ll be attacked sooner or later.

Such lovely heroes. I imagine this is echoing Somber’s internal dialogue given her self-admitted writing style flaw. I’ve been waiting all fic for her to literally write, in the middle of some tedium:
“And then ninjas attacked.”
Somber, I SWEAR I won’t judge you. I don’t judge you now, either. It’d just be really, really funny if you lampshaded it that hard, just once. Just for me <3
...even if the next line revealed it was just the Remnant XD
***
Really… how could anyone take a nap… on a… tank…

Triage: And if she ever gets finicky, or seems a bit more messed-up than normal, just hit this tab behind her left shoulder blade panel.
P-21:...is that an on/off switch? You gave her an on/off switch?
Triage: ...well...
Rover: Yes.
Glory: That seems really unethical, to be honest...
Rover: Only unethical if not useful. Switch VERY useful. Keep pony from going crazy with stupid pony fear of sleep. Dog TOLD Professor switch was good idea, but no... unethical this, blah blah that... THIS pony doctor MUCH better.
Triage: ...somehow, I don’t feel all that flattered.

P.S.
Glory: I thought we agreed never to use that.
P-21: YOU agreed, I had my tail crossed...
***
“The third battalion should be deployed somewhere southeast of us, preventing any large numbers of enemies from moving in.”
...should number be plural, here? For some reason, I feel like either number or enemy should be plural, not both.
***

...I really, really think Psalm might be there to kill Celestia. This is a lot of security, and... it just seems like a very PH-y twist. Not that plenty of people haven’t suggested Goldenblood planned up the whole assassination attempt in the first place, for some reason... but I think, maybe, he just covered it up. He tends to do that a lot.

This is, like, really dark. Why are you even reading this?

Just look at me for a moment.

...

...

...oooohhh, I get it.

Yeah. Dark is kinda my thing.

Oh, no, okay, NOW I get it.

What did you think “it” was?

I don’t know, like... that you’re all scratched up?

Eh, that too.
***
“Don’t worry, Teacher.” I said as I put my hoof on his shoulder. “I won’t. No matter what.”

And there we have it.

Have what?

Just a few more minutes...
***
And I put a bullet straight through it.

>:)

T_T

What?

But... he was so great, and now he’s dead...

Yeah, that happens, I...

TTT_TTT

...crap. Intermission!

***
*doodily doo, doodily dip dop do wow!*
***


Better?

Yeah... it was just so totally sad...

Close, it’s really more... somber. ;D

Sniff... you’re so fricken lame, sometimes, LMR...
***
Even though it was the middle of the night, my eyes could see well enough to make out the oddities in the terrain. It looked like somepony had taken an immense pencil and drawn lines back and forth across the land to the south. Walls of crumbling concrete and rusted heaps lay scattered as far as I could see, some with long-abandoned rifles rusting silently away. Many of the lines were muddy ruts and ravines left in the landscape. Rusted artillery pieces lay with their red barrels threatening the skies. And there were bones. Everywhere I looked were bones and skulls sticking out of the earth as if the remains struggled to keep fighting each other. A reek of sulfur hung in the air, and patches of dense mist skulked along the deformations in the crinkled land.
*INSERT BIG FAT THUMBS UP*
***
Gonna take a break, now. We’re on page thirteen and I haven’t commented since six pages ago, I think. That whole bit was intense...
***
“Nopony knows. It’s said that ponies could only find it with the express permission of the Princess or her top generals.” Twister gave a small shrug as she flew beside the tank. “Regardless, it was so long ago that nopony knows how or why things happened back then.”

Sounds like a great spot for an endgame, let alone location for Redoubt.

A mustard yellow unicorn wearing patched-up spiked barding gave a cocky grin as he a pproached, his black mane pulled into something that might vaguely be a style.

As if.
***
““Why do you have to made it so… fucking… difficult?!””
***

You know what? I’m not entirely sure why, but I just can’t bring myself to care about Blackjack finally killing someone. Or, perhaps, the Psalm part of her. Finally stopping that “I am not an executioner” bit. Maybe BECAUSE she’s been saying it since the beginning of the fic, I don’t know.

This is all so totally dark. Come on, where’s the action? Where’s the drama? Where’s the passion and the cheating and the love triangles? I wanna see someone break down and cry ‘cause their heart was broken and there’s too much love in it and it’s leaking out into the world as tears and sobbing. Why aren’t we reading that?

We’ll read that later, we’re reading my thing now! We already went over this!

But I’m so BORED! We’re halfway through the chapter and I’ve only cried once so far!

...wow, you really like an emotional read, huh?

It’s not drama without drama, babe.

But that’s the point, we’re not reading drama!

Whatever, if it doesn’t get better soon I’m totally out of here.
***
Glory nearly cried as she smiled and nodded. “Sure.”

T_T

See? It has some romancy-stuff!

Shh, you’re ruining it...
***
The wide, low rise the base lay upon was shrouded in mist. Wisps and vapors curled around us as we moved slowly along the road up the towards the clusters of reinforced buildings. A sulfurous scent tanged the air, and muddy patches of steamy water bubbled and trickled beside the road. The detritus almost like a scrapyard, there was so much ruin. A monument to squandered blood and treasure. Then a discolored plaque on a bullet-chipped concrete block came into view: Grimhoof Army Base. Beyond, I could make out the vaguest hints of huge, squatting buildings half hidden by the mist.
^_^
***
Scotch Tape and Boo rode on the turret.

It’s gonna be pretty unpleasant when that starts firing.

They could get off. It’s not like that’d be hard, you know.

I just don’t think Deus would pause for that long. He’d immediately swivel, shoot, and if they hadn’t fallen off their teeth might shatter from proximity.

Guh, you’re totally exaggerating, but whatever, just keep reading.

Starting to get into the fic, now?

Pfft, if I am, your interruptions aren’t helping.

True, kay.
***
P-21 trotted out and shoved me back to my hooves without a word, and I felt myself go red.
Right now really wasn’t the time for embarrassment.

It’s not like P-21 hasn’t saved you before, BJ. I don’t recall you getting quite so embarrassed when he first did, either, way back at the beginning with the foals and the raiders.

Duh, he likes her. It’s so ob-v.

I said no, now...

Look, babe, you can deny it however you want, but I KNOW this, okay? You can’t fight love, and that’s it!

...shooting a grenade into a cyber-dog’s mouth?

Ugh, you’re so immature. You’ll see.

I’m sure I will.
***
“One arched high and came down on a hellhound more keen on shooting Lacunae than paying attention directly above him. “
*than paying attention to what was directly above him

“Grawnerer or whatever his name was said the Enclave”
Grawnerer, or whatever his name was, said the Enclave

“Just try to find an frequency in the P band”
Are you sure it should be “an” and not a?
***
I wouldn’t elaborate on how.

Because they wouldn’t know alicorns are telepaths by now? Lacunae has spoken once or twice already, and always without moving her mouth. And the enclave soldiers are all on distraction duty? They aren’t gonna...
...okay, reading one sentence ahead now, and... there we go.
Fun battle, though. Really played up the Hellhound’s form of guerrilla tactics.

...hmm? Oh, yeah, whatever she said.

A little distracted?

Yeah, Mellissa called, stuff is happening.

We can stop for a bit if you-

Gezz, look, I can multitask or whatever, it’s fine!

Kay, going...
***
For a moment, I was absolutely certain both were going to die, and then the zebra’s snapping cape suddenly whipped across her face, blinding her and causing her hoofstrike to miss by inches. For a moment, I was absolutely certain both were going to die, and then the zebra’s snapping cape suddenly whipped across her face, blinding her and causing her hoofstrike to miss by inches.
Unicorn telekinesis?

Teaming up with Lancer? The guy who you know best for betraying you so soon after you first met? Oh yeah, I’m SURE he’ll keep his side of this deal.
***
At the moment, I had way too much on my plate to take on new mysteries.

Hah, it’d be funny if Snipe suggested this line.
***
“He’s shot me multiple times in the back, and I haven’t died yet,” I said calmly. “Must be really frustrating for him.

Blackjack: But, hey, all my friends try to kill me, remember?
P-21: ...
Blackjack: I mean, you shot me in the back, once, too.
P-21: ...
Blackjack: ...or was that in the butt? Gezz, that was so long ago…
P-21: ...I swear, you make it SO hard not to hate you, sometimes.
***
. Once again, though, we’d gotten lucky. There was only one power-armored pegasus guarding the balcony. When she trotted close, Sunset and I reached out, grabbed her by her tail, and jerked her through the doorway. One sharp blow later, the guard was unconscious, and we moved out on the balcony.

One sharp blow through power armor can knock someone out? Where did they hit?!

I dunno, maybe there’s, like, a weak spot or something?

In power armor?

Yeah, sure, a... what’s it called... heel something.

Achilles heel.

Yeah! Oh my glob, this one time my ex, Brad, he tripped while playing lumpball and totally twisted his ankle up all gross. He was all “Uh, someone help!” and I was all “Oh my glob, someone, help!” and I TOTALLY saved his life. I grabbed the water cooler jug (which was, like, SUPER heavy) and totally got ice out on his ankle. But, of course, then he was all “LSP, why did you pour ice water all over me?” and I was all “Cause you’re, like, super hawt, Brad!” and a week later we were totally dating!

...is that the end?

What, you want more? Kay, see-

No, I mean, I was talking about power armor and... you know what? Nevermind.

Pfft, that’s RIGHT never mind!

Why did I think this was a good idea...?

Maybe because-

RHETORICAL QUESTION
***
“Actually, I was thinking of trying to find this place’s reactor and blowing it up,” he said with a sheepish grin.
“Overkill, Dad.”

You know, it’s not overkill if they deserve it...
***
. “If I were designing this place, I’d drop the cables through the floor to maneframes below and run the broadcast cabling up an armored central trunk. Which I think is right... there.” She gestured at a long square conduit running along the wall from floor to ceiling, passing right by the edge of the balcony. “The problem is I have no idea how we’d carve our way in without everypony seeing us.”

Glory: “...since when do you know about electronics? That’s not plumbing.”
Scotch: “Pipes are pipes, whether they carry water or electricity.”
Glory: “... touché.”
***
Still, another dead end. I had no way of knowing how to acknowledge the request. Did I have to use my broadcaster? Transfer EC-1101 into the terminal? How did I do that?

Ask Echo, ya ding dong.
***
“Let... let me try,” Glory said as she stepped up to the field and touched it with a wing. The feather passed right through like it was water. She passed right through, and once she was on the far side, the magic field dropped, leaving a ring of deactivated gems. “Wow... it worked. Let’s go.” From her flustered appearance, she clearly didn’t want to talk about it.

Directly in front of an Enclave soldier.
Who, in their right mind, can’t see what’s coming next?

...why, what’s coming next?

They’re gonna use her to open other doors like that, basically.

...why? Is that some kind of big deal?

Oh yes. Very.
***
But there was one surefire way to know that this was Rainbow Dash’s office. It lay right beside a photograph of six young Ministry Mares in ragged and torn dresses with a dapper young dragon standing beside them, a mouth-scrawled note read ‘Best night ever!’ in the upper corner. It was a small figurine of a purple unicorn smiling brightly back at me, clean despite the dust that covered everything else. I lifted the Twilight figurine and turned it over to read the inscription. ‘Be Smart’.
The pony gang was complete.

Tingles...
***
“You shall not pass!” Lacunae thundered, her eyes blazing.

*gasp*

...what?

I KNOW THAT REFERENCE

You do?

YES, I LOVE THAT MOVIE! Oh my glob, we watched that for movie night, like, a month ago! Sam, Frodo, Gandalf... they’re all so cute together, we watched it twice!

...uh...

Is she pony Gandalf? Why didn’t you tell me she was pony Gandalf?!

I... didn’t know?

This fic is SO much better now!

Kay. Well, yay for Somber and random references...

Yes!
***
“Glory’s told me the Enclave aren’t a bunch of selfish assholes!” I shouted back

Their objective is to get into the SPP to help protect the Enclave, and they’re particularly encouraged to do so now that they think Thunderhead might be gunning for taking out the rest of them.
Sure, they aren’t really respecting Glory’s life, here, but they aren’t being all that selfish in risking the life of a traitor to save their entire people.

I dunno, like… it’s still pretty lame or whatever.

…but to save their people’s life?

No, I know, but… well, Finn wouldn’t do that. He’d be awesome and just, like… whatever. It’d be fine.

Eh, different world, different rules.

You WOULD say that.

I don’t even know what that means.

You’d say that, too.

I know. I did say it.

Look, I can’t deal with your drama and the fic’s drama at the same time, you know. Melissa called and the party was called off. SOMEONE called her parents and they were all “Blah blah, we’re lumping awful and you can’t have, like, fifty people in a 2 bed 1 bath.”

Wow, yeah, that’s messed up.

Eh… at least no one’s told them about the after-party, yet.
***
A gap appeared ahead of us, and a lone figure slowly advanced through the mist. The zebra stallion advancing moved with a slow gait that conveyed terrible power and grace all at once. His head was concealed by a dragon skull carved with strange glyphs across the bone. His powerful body bore innumerable scars across its surface, including a horrible Y-shaped injury across his chest. More carved dragonbone armor formed spikes at his hips and flank, strapped in place. His weapon was a simple double-pointed spear with dragon fangs tipping both ends.

It would be great if that was all made from the dragon in that museum BJ once got a fang from. IIRC, when she went back, the entire skeleton had been picked clean. She also encountered zebra then, so... yeah. Your thoughts, LSP?

Duh, he’s a total freak.

Thank you, LSP.
***
. “I don’t have an argument with you, Legate. “
I know it’s probably technically correct, but I’d prefer if you used “quarrel”.
...also, Blackjack and company SERIOUSLY aren’t AT ALL affected by the tank firing so close-by?

Wait? Where was Rampage?
Wait isn’t a question. Try it; try saying just “wait” as a question. Join it to the following sentence with a comma, or end it with an exclamation point or ellipses.
***
Then the blood reversed itself and retracted into the wound. Before my eyes, the injury healed itself and left only the faintest scar to give any indication he’d been injured at all. “Oh, come on!” I shouted as I magically waved the sword at him. “I know you don’t have the Phoenix Talisman, so stop cheating already!”
He turned slowly towards me with that sure smile. “You think I needed it? No. I was merely curious how such a thing came to be, and wished to keep it out of your hooves. An immortal, regenerating Maiden of the Stars would have been annoying.” He reached up and rubbed his neck. “Still, it is commendable that you struck what would otherwise have been a killing blow. Even the dragon I slew to craft this armor did not manage such.”
***
What the cluck are they talking about. What does he know about the phoenix talisman and... just what. I feel like I must be missing some sort of massive side-plot, here.

No, mwee, I motamy met it…

Swallow first, maybe?

*gulp* Kay, you see, he can totally read minds.

Huh?

What? He can do, like, fifty other things, why not that?

…kay, sure. Let’s go with that.

Mold mya.
***
“Oh yes, you are. You always have been. You are the instrument of chaos and destruction. Death follows in your wake. Misery pursues you like hunting hounds. All who love you suffer. All who hate you die. But you have yet to embrace your destiny. When you accept it... when you revel in the slaughter you are capable of... then, and only then, will you be worthy of the death I will grant you.” He took his hoof off my head. “You see, Blackjack, you are the villain. The monster. Once you accept that fundamental truth, you can be slain.”

Nice monologue there, “hero.”

Kay, I think I’ve worked it out.

Hmm?

First, the teeth. Bleach those. The hair’s kinda messed up, but I’ve totally seen people pull that off in a pinch. Lose the bones, I don’t really get why he’s got them anyway, take a bath of course, then…

LSP, I don’t think he’s the type to take makeover advice.

…well, I guess there’s just no helping some people, then.

Exactly.

Even if a little eyeliner would do wonders for your look.

Thank you, LSP.
***
“I... am... not a monster!” I shouted as I struggled against the crushing pressure. I even managed to rise to my hooves a little. “I’m not!”

*gasp* I know just how she feels...

You do?

Yes... I, too, was once thought to be a monster, all because I was hungry and attacked by my wolf family...

We’re literally just a couple pages from the end of the fic, I think we can hold any more side-stories for now.
***
“When they’d departed, the air pressure on me relaxed and the stone spikes trapping Deus crumbled to rubble.”
Crumble?
***

And DONE!!!

That took forever...

And now it’s over!

And the after-party’s in a half hour, come on!

Wait, I’m going with you?

Yes, so you can make it up to me for sitting through an entire lumping novel.

But I, uh… don’t have anything to wear?

Kay, here.

...a garbage bag?

Dress.

Um, I… kay, well, just let me wrap up. Ahem… good chapter, kinda dragged on, though.

Not enough romance! Not enough intrigue, either! You’re “mysteries” amount to BJ saying something, then shrugging! How have you gone so long with this fic just doing that?!

…did you just make a coherent point?

… *smack*

Ah! Okay, we’re going. Enjoyed the chapter, see ya next time.

Out!

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Post by jacky2734 on Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:10 am

Okay, do you guys have any idea about the time and resources required to make cybernetic zebra soldiers.
-First, you have to have a viable "volunteer" pool that can range from actual volunteers to critically injured soldiers or even abductees.
-Then, you've got to get the "volunteers" prepped for the conversion by getting into Peak physical and mental condition, because if, for one reason or another, they don't recover from the procedure, you've just wasted a very valuable resource in both the recipient and the augmentations that were probably ruined.
-After that, you've actually got to put the "volunteers" through the conversion procedure, which is probably very time consuming and labor intensive and requires several highly skilled surgeons for each conversion.
-And after all that is done, your new cyber soldier can't just go out into the battlefield. They need time to get use to their new bodies and be trained in how to use them most effectively. That's not even considering the amount of brainwashing and indoctrination required to make them into soulless killing machines.
All together, the process is very time consuming and resource intensive.

Compare that to making a viable attack drone.
-Develop design.
-Send schematics to the factory and have them start mass-producing the drone.
-Download pre-programmed attack patterns and Friend-or-Foe designators.
-Drop them into a battlefield and watch them go to work.

Somebody please tell me how making a cyborg soldier is cheaper than making a killdrone.

While we're on the subject of Zebra Robots, where are they? Seriously, we were told that late in the war, the Zs had to start relying on robots more than the ponies did just to stay in the fight, yet all we've seen in the story are Equestrian designs, a zebra tank, and a few Zebra Cyborgs. We're not even told what the Zebras' warbots even look like, or how they were deployed on the battlefield.
Unless the cyborgs are actually just full robots with artificial skin like a terminator, which, now that I think about it, is actually quite likely. It would give the impression that the zebras still had plenty of reserves and better cybernetics than the ponies who developed the concept.
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Post by Overlong Analysis Cobalt on Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:15 am

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Post by Moodyman90 on Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:25 am

Swicked, I always love reading your reviews. LSP just made it even funnier.
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Post by Ketchup on Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:39 am

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Post by swicked on Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:45 am

jacky2734 wrote:While we're on the subject of Zebra Robots, where are they? Seriously, we were told that late in the war, the Zs had to start relying on robots more than the ponies did just to stay in the fight, yet all we've seen in the story are Equestrian designs, a zebra tank, and a few Zebra Cyborgs. We're not even told what the Zebras' warbots even look like, or how they were deployed on the battlefield.
Do we know if the Coyotl, of which the cyber-zebras were a brood of, was anything but cyber-zebras?
Maybe they are an entirely manufactured clan.
I think it'd be pretty interesting if that's what it came down to, socio-politically. As the clans were diminished a new one was literally created to take up the fight. Maybe even from those that had fallen.

Do we have reason to believe these aren't essentially Fallout: Equestria-style starcraft dragoons? :P

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Post by jacky2734 on Fri Mar 01, 2013 1:05 am

Uh, Swicked, I think you cut too much out of that quote, I would include the paragraph directly after that as well.

Also, I have no idea what a starcraft dragoon is. I was thinking FoE-style Terminator. You know, built in a factory and having artificial flesh grafted to them so that they were indistinguishable from a real zebra.
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Post by swicked on Fri Mar 01, 2013 1:17 am

jacky2734 wrote:Uh, Swicked, I think you cut too much out of that quote, I would include the paragraph directly after that as well.

Also, I have no idea what a starcraft dragoon is. I was thinking FoE-style Terminator. You know, built in a factory and having artificial flesh grafted to them so that they were indistinguishable from a real zebra.
I was kinda riffing off what you were saying, not replying to it, but kay.

In starcraft there's a unit called a dragoon. Protoss (a race of aliens) veteran warriors that can no longer fight in battle due to their injuries basically have their vitals scooped out and placed into a robotic shell. I guess it'd be a bit like the brain bots from Fallout, but if the only brains harvested were, again, veterans who could otherwise no longer fight.
So then I thought it would be cool if the Coyotl were a clan built from the fallen of all the other clans.

This is all very weak speculation, I realize... I'm really just following the rule of cool.

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Post by Icy Shake on Fri Mar 01, 2013 1:43 am

Blazing Celestia getting up in all the lumps that was awesome, Swicked.

On the cyberzebras, before the possibility that they were really just robots was raised, I thought that perhaps it had to do with cybernetics requiring fewer gems than robotics. That might particularly work if gems were used for processing, and could be replaced by neural tissue. The total investment might look prohibitive from the Equestrian side, but with one particular resource defining the zebras' limits, it might make sense. The problem there is explaining the quantity of robots they did have.

One little thing:
"A gap appeared ahead of us, and a lone figure slowly advanced through the mist. The zebra stallion advancing moved with a slow gait that conveyed terrible power and grace all at once."

Regarding the second sentence, the word order just strikes me as strange; I start out thinking I'll read one sentence (like "The zebra stallion[,] advancing with a slow gait that conveyed terrible power and grace all at once,
[something]), but then end up reading one structured altogether differently, and it throws me off a little.
I think it might read better as "The advancing zebra stallion moved with a slow gait . . ." That sets up two instances of forms of "advance" too close together, though, so maybe "approaching" or some such could be subbed in.
(Or, come to think of it, the adjective could be merged into the verb, like "The zebra stallion advanced (or whatever) with
. . .")
But I'm probably making too big of a deal out of a minor point by now.


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Post by FeatherDust on Fri Mar 01, 2013 2:11 am

On the nature and purpose of Coyotl zebras:

I think we're going off track with the Coyotl analysis.

First, a little thing: I'm fairly sure Coyotl isn't a clan. The "brood of coyotl" makes it sound like Coyotl is a progenitor (most likely figuratively). Definitely could be another Discord-like creature, given the association to the native american trickster spirit Coyote, and the spelling (at least for me) evokes an "aztec deity" feel, probably because I've never seen the "tl" ending outside of Aztec names like "Quetzalcoatl" or "Huitzilopochtli".

Second: Why do we think they're terminators (that is, full robot under skin) rather than what they're stated to be, which is heavily cyborged zebras?

Because they don't eat? First I doubt that report, since the reporter probably wasn't watching them 24/7. Rather, I'd say "they don't eat normal food at regular times". For all we know they subsist on gemstones. Y'know who else doesn't eat? Blackjack. When's the last time she ate anything that wasn't metal, gems, or a cyberpony cake? She could subsist on gems if she needed to, I seem to recall.

Because they stand really still? Blackjack has noted that this is an effect of heavy cyborging. She went on at length about the "inner silence" of mechanical organs, and I believe at one point she mentioned that her cyberlegs didn't move at all when she didn't intend to use them -- lacking the normal shifts and twitches of muscles -- which made her stand strangely still. Didn't she also forget to blink for an extended period, at one point? In any case, this doesn't support 'robot' any more than it supports 'heavy cyborging'. They have not been shown to be less alive in mind than any crew of well trained soldiers, since every time we've seen them, they're essentially on review.

Third: Why do they exist?
Well, there is no really good reason to shove a robot into skin. Skin is messy and gets in the way. The only purpose to skin is if you're borging a previously living zebra. And in that case, you want the mind mostly intact, since a brain can react in ways a computer can't.


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Post by jacky2734 on Fri Mar 01, 2013 2:31 am

Icy Shake wrote:Blazing Celestia getting up in all the lumps that was awesome, Swicked.

On the cyberzebras, before the possibility that they were really just robots was raised, I thought that perhaps it had to do with cybernetics requiring fewer gems than robotics. That might particularly work if gems were used for processing, and could be replaced by neural tissue. The total investment might look prohibitive from the Equestrian side, but with one particular resource defining the zebras' limits, it might make sense. The problem there is explaining the quantity of robots they did have.

You forget that with a warbot, whose only purpose is to kill enemies on a battlefield, all it basically needs to know is how to operate it's body, who to take orders from, how to attack, what to attack, and what not to attack. The processing power for that would be exponentially less than the processing power required to make a biological body work in symbiosis with major cybernetic implants.

In the time and with the resources it would take to produce one cyborg super-soldier, their factories theoretically could produce dozens, if not hundreds, of warbots.

Basically, for the zebras, it would have boiled down to whether they wanted a lot of very simple, brutal machines whose only purpose is slaughter, or a few well trained, well equipped super soldiers who could still fight with honor, make on the spot moral decisions, and remain very flexible in and out of combat. From what I've seen of the Cyberzebras so far, it almost looks like they chose the former.
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Post by Sindri on Fri Mar 01, 2013 5:36 am

swicked wrote:
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TTT_TTT

...crap. Intermission!
...dat face. What exactly is happening in LMR's head here?

jacky2734 wrote:Okay, do you guys have any idea about the time and resources required to make cybernetic zebra soldiers.
-First, you have to have a viable "volunteer" pool that can range from actual volunteers to critically injured soldiers or even abductees.
-Then, you've got to get the "volunteers" prepped for the conversion by getting into Peak physical and mental condition, because if, for one reason or another, they don't recover from the procedure, you've just wasted a very valuable resource in both the recipient and the augmentations that were probably ruined.
-After that, you've actually got to put the "volunteers" through the conversion procedure, which is probably very time consuming and labor intensive and requires several highly skilled surgeons for each conversion.
-And after all that is done, your new cyber soldier can't just go out into the battlefield. They need time to get use to their new bodies and be trained in how to use them most effectively. That's not even considering the amount of brainwashing and indoctrination required to make them into soulless killing machines.
All together, the process is very time consuming and resource intensive.
OR, you use Blanks. They start at peak physical condition. They don't have a mind to break, and instead of trying to integrate cybernetic systems with a person you want to remain sane you can just slap in a normal computer and either bypass the organic brain entirely or use it as an organic processor. Instead of a person adjusting to their new parts and learning to use them properly, you have a semi-organic machine that's pre-programmed to fight. Most of the mechanics are there already from the Blank, saving lots of material, with the tradeoff being that the electrical components need to be significantly higher quality and complexity to interface with the body properly.

If you're limited by money, we don't know which works better because we can't compare the cost of high grade electronics + clones versus the cost of middling electronics and a lot of hardware. But if you're limited by start-to-finish production time, metals and other robot building materials, or how much you can carry on a stealth mission, they're great.
Which is why I thought of production behind enemy lines; cyberparts are light and tiny compared to warbots so your specialist team can carry them in, once you get the clones you can install the new parts in a few hours for each (an assembly line full of robots might finish one every minute when it's running full, but start-to-end time is looong), and in a few days you go from a tiny team that snuck past the enemy perimeter to a force of hundreds of (mostly organic) warbots, ready to strike at various soft targets relying on the security at the borders to stop any big forces. It's a portable instant army, just add Ichor.
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Post by O. Hinds on Fri Mar 01, 2013 10:57 am

swicked wrote:Kay, so... yeah. This took a very long time.
It was fun, but exhausting and I won't do it again, I don't think... at least, not without significant encouragement and/or free time :P

So... yeah. This is my Little Miss Rarity and Lumpy Space Princess paired review of chapter 54. I hope the two people that thought this was a good idea, one of which having reminded me to do it after I forgot last chapter, receive all the enjoyment from it that they anticipated.

Oh, and maybe it'll be useful for the writing team, too. It's kinda hard to tell with something like this.

That said:
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Huh. So this Somber pony finally decided to post another chapter...

Oh my glob, I am totally gonna write the nastiest review... it’ll be so lumping AWESOME all the other commenters will be all “Ooo! Burn! You got him LSP!” And I’ll be all “I know... I’m, like, totally the best reviewer ever, right?” “Oh yeah, you’re awesome, we want all up on your lumps!” and I’ll be all “Well YOU CAN’T HAVE THEM!” and they’ll be all “awwww” and I’ll be “YEAH!” and...

LSP, what are you... oh my gosh, get away from there!

Pfft, yeah, right, whatever... you KNOW they all want somma this!

LSP, this is for reviewing stories... You’ve never even read, let alone reviewed, a fic. A bunch of people read my reviews every time. I don’t even particularly know why, but hey, if they like it, then-

-they’re clearly ready for a taste of the lumpy space! Come on, give it, I’m gonna do this one.

...are you honestly going to read the chapter?

...wait, seriously? There isn’t a movie or something, yet? Why are you reading stuff that doesn’t have a movie?

...that’s what I thought. How about we do it together, then?

...ugh, well, I guess that’d be kinda cool... heh, come on, let’s totally wreck this fic!

Right, kay. Testing, one, two... LMR and LSP

BFFS OMFG!!!

*facehoof* ...reviews are go.
***

Nice to see Deus is getting a decent amount of attention, here. As for Rampage’s armor, though... who keeps re-forging it for her? Doesn’t it get blown apart in most battles? I think she got at least one shelling last chapter... if it broke at all, it should quickly turn into a twisted mess. Maybe she batters it straight again, though? *shrug*

Oh my glob, yeah, that look is totally terrible.

It’s supposed to be more practical than pretty.

But, like... it’s ugly.

...so?

WHY would it work?

The metal... it doesn’t really protect her, yeah, it’s just sort of... sharp.

And all those belts? Whatever, I don’t, like, get it? I totally don’t even know what I’m looking at, here.

I... uh. I... okay.

The blue one in the cowboy hat, though…

Hold that thought.
***
If all went according to plan, the Harbingers would see us go and not bother Chapel any longer.

...no. Blackjack, Dawn threatened to shell Chapel when she was 100% sure you WEREN’T inside it and nearly got you to hand over the program. If you leave it entirely, the whole town’s more likely to become a hostage than it is to suddenly be safe. They targeted it due to your relationship with it, not your proximity, just like Sanguine.
***
Whoever put him in that thing had been pretty methodical about it. First charge would have disabled the case holding his brain and severed his connection to the tank. The second would have scrapped the life support, then the repair talisman, and finally the engine itself.”

So... their plan was to destroy two things that were not the repair talisman, then the repair talisman? I guess, if they were all going off at the same time, P-21 could have really listed them in any order, though.
...your thoughts, LSP?

Ugh, I don’t know, is this, like, math or something?

Come on, LSP, just try.

Kay, um... well, he’s really thin and kinda cute... but he’s talking about weird stuff, so... a 4?

...okay! Moving on, then!
***
And if they tried to use Chapel as a hostage against me again... well... I think at that point I was entitled to go Yellow River on the Harbingers. Besides, given the defenses Chapel was building up, there’d be the chance of an embarrassing defeat by a bunch of foals.

...they were presumably controlling at least one, maybe several, steel rangers. They were capable of getting a tank. They’ve regularly been seen with anti-machine rifles. They could EASILY still take chapel, even with Blackjack and company there, since there aren’t enough chapel residents in fighting condition anymore. Harbringers have never been shown to have any pride. They will gladly sacrifice legions of ponies to achieve their one goal, not unlike Red Eye.

Kay, yeah, those guys sound pretty serious and junk.

Yeah, and yet there’s so much worse out there, too.

Why don’t they, I don’t know, get a life, though?

Because then we wouldn’t have a story to read.

...oh, yeah. I guess that makes sense.
***
“Those are going to make you fat, Blackjack,” Scotch Tape opined with a snicker.

GOING to?

I know, right? I’ve been thinking that for a while now. She particularly eats so much more metal than she could ever be expelling.

...so she used to be thin?

...no, she’s always been pretty husky, even back when all she ate from day to day was waste chips.

...what.

Recycled waste turned back into food.

WHAT

You see, they were in this shelter where they needed a steady food supply for hundreds of years-

THAT IS SO LUMPING GROSS

Yes it... holy crud, you’re turning green. That is... that is REALLY green. We’re taking a break, be right back!

***
*intermission music, doot doo, doot doo, doodily doo!*
***


Kay, we’re back, and LSP is all better now.

Yeah, right. Ugh, tastes like... huh. Actually, not that bad. Anyway, got any soda?

There’s some club soda in the fridge.

*sip* *spit* This is not soda. This is awful.

...there’s also cream soda.

Ah. *sip* Much better.

Kay, we should probably go back to, you know, “reviewing”, now.
***
Maybe it was kicking the Med-X, but he looked pretty good. Then again, he’d always looked good… not flyer-good, but still…

OOO! OOO! OOO! OOO! OOO! OOO! OOO!

...please don’t start; everyone will hate us.

But-

NO

...ugh, fine, whatever.
***
Rampage snickered. “Oh, come on. Deus couldn’t go five minutes without a ‘cunt’.” P-21 looked at her coolly, and the striped mare blinked. “What?”
“I’d appreciate it if you didn’t use language like that around my daughter,” he said primly. I shared a look with Glory and suppressed a laugh.
“Oh, really? What should I use?” Rampage asked with a grin. “Sugar pot?”
“Vagina would be the most accurate,” Glory offered.
“Hoo-hah,” Twister suggested.
“Vertical smile?” Sunset said with a grin.
“I usually just call it my turbine,” Scotch said as she rubbed her chin thoughtfully, then looked at me, “cause it makes me hum.”

...I don’t get it, what are they talking about?

...oh, right, lumpy space. Well... it’s stuff lumpy space people don’t have.

Ah, I always thought your bodies were a bit weird, all smooth and junk.

Yup, we’re a bunch of freaks.

Well, I wasn’t going to say it to your face, but...
***

Wow, these ponies use a lot of innuendoes. Kinda weird.

You’ll get no arguments from me. ...though this whole conversation is kinda weird, in general. Particularly Glory considering being with someone other than Blackjack. I guess that’d make them both swingers.

...what does swinging have to do with this?

What? No, swinging means they’d be... um. It’s like cheating, only the other person knows about it.

Oh my glob, what is wrong with these ponies!? There’re so weird and junk! Wasn’t this fic supposed to be all action-y and stuff, anyway!?

Give it time; Somber’s just doing a thing right now.
***
She didn’t love me, and maybe I didn’t love her.

Well, that’s new.

Blackjack, stay with Glory! I believe in you!

You don’t even know her!

But I know love, and they have it! Beautiful, beautiful LOVE.

Groan...
***
As the evening gloom deepened, I started wishing that the Harbingers would attack.
Relax, Blackjack. I’m sure that we’ll be attacked sooner or later.

Such lovely heroes. I imagine this is echoing Somber’s internal dialogue given her self-admitted writing style flaw. I’ve been waiting all fic for her to literally write, in the middle of some tedium:
“And then ninjas attacked.”
Somber, I SWEAR I won’t judge you. I don’t judge you now, either. It’d just be really, really funny if you lampshaded it that hard, just once. Just for me <3
...even if the next line revealed it was just the Remnant XD
***
Really… how could anyone take a nap… on a… tank…

Triage: And if she ever gets finicky, or seems a bit more messed-up than normal, just hit this tab behind her left shoulder blade panel.
P-21:...is that an on/off switch? You gave her an on/off switch?
Triage: ...well...
Rover: Yes.
Glory: That seems really unethical, to be honest...
Rover: Only unethical if not useful. Switch VERY useful. Keep pony from going crazy with stupid pony fear of sleep. Dog TOLD Professor switch was good idea, but no... unethical this, blah blah that... THIS pony doctor MUCH better.
Triage: ...somehow, I don’t feel all that flattered.

P.S.
Glory: I thought we agreed never to use that.
P-21: YOU agreed, I had my tail crossed...
***
“The third battalion should be deployed somewhere southeast of us, preventing any large numbers of enemies from moving in.”
...should number be plural, here? For some reason, I feel like either number or enemy should be plural, not both.
***

...I really, really think Psalm might be there to kill Celestia. This is a lot of security, and... it just seems like a very PH-y twist. Not that plenty of people haven’t suggested Goldenblood planned up the whole assassination attempt in the first place, for some reason... but I think, maybe, he just covered it up. He tends to do that a lot.

This is, like, really dark. Why are you even reading this?

Just look at me for a moment.

...

...

...oooohhh, I get it.

Yeah. Dark is kinda my thing.

Oh, no, okay, NOW I get it.

What did you think “it” was?

I don’t know, like... that you’re all scratched up?

Eh, that too.
***
“Don’t worry, Teacher.” I said as I put my hoof on his shoulder. “I won’t. No matter what.”

And there we have it.

Have what?

Just a few more minutes...
***
And I put a bullet straight through it.

>:)

T_T

What?

But... he was so great, and now he’s dead...

Yeah, that happens, I...

TTT_TTT

...crap. Intermission!

***
*doodily doo, doodily dip dop do wow!*
***


Better?

Yeah... it was just so totally sad...

Close, it’s really more... somber. ;D

Sniff... you’re so fricken lame, sometimes, LMR...
***
Even though it was the middle of the night, my eyes could see well enough to make out the oddities in the terrain. It looked like somepony had taken an immense pencil and drawn lines back and forth across the land to the south. Walls of crumbling concrete and rusted heaps lay scattered as far as I could see, some with long-abandoned rifles rusting silently away. Many of the lines were muddy ruts and ravines left in the landscape. Rusted artillery pieces lay with their red barrels threatening the skies. And there were bones. Everywhere I looked were bones and skulls sticking out of the earth as if the remains struggled to keep fighting each other. A reek of sulfur hung in the air, and patches of dense mist skulked along the deformations in the crinkled land.
*INSERT BIG FAT THUMBS UP*
***
Gonna take a break, now. We’re on page thirteen and I haven’t commented since six pages ago, I think. That whole bit was intense...
***
“Nopony knows. It’s said that ponies could only find it with the express permission of the Princess or her top generals.” Twister gave a small shrug as she flew beside the tank. “Regardless, it was so long ago that nopony knows how or why things happened back then.”

Sounds like a great spot for an endgame, let alone location for Redoubt.

A mustard yellow unicorn wearing patched-up spiked barding gave a cocky grin as he a pproached, his black mane pulled into something that might vaguely be a style.

As if.
***
““Why do you have to made it so… fucking… difficult?!””
***

You know what? I’m not entirely sure why, but I just can’t bring myself to care about Blackjack finally killing someone. Or, perhaps, the Psalm part of her. Finally stopping that “I am not an executioner” bit. Maybe BECAUSE she’s been saying it since the beginning of the fic, I don’t know.

This is all so totally dark. Come on, where’s the action? Where’s the drama? Where’s the passion and the cheating and the love triangles? I wanna see someone break down and cry ‘cause their heart was broken and there’s too much love in it and it’s leaking out into the world as tears and sobbing. Why aren’t we reading that?

We’ll read that later, we’re reading my thing now! We already went over this!

But I’m so BORED! We’re halfway through the chapter and I’ve only cried once so far!

...wow, you really like an emotional read, huh?

It’s not drama without drama, babe.

But that’s the point, we’re not reading drama!

Whatever, if it doesn’t get better soon I’m totally out of here.
***
Glory nearly cried as she smiled and nodded. “Sure.”

T_T

See? It has some romancy-stuff!

Shh, you’re ruining it...
***
The wide, low rise the base lay upon was shrouded in mist. Wisps and vapors curled around us as we moved slowly along the road up the towards the clusters of reinforced buildings. A sulfurous scent tanged the air, and muddy patches of steamy water bubbled and trickled beside the road. The detritus almost like a scrapyard, there was so much ruin. A monument to squandered blood and treasure. Then a discolored plaque on a bullet-chipped concrete block came into view: Grimhoof Army Base. Beyond, I could make out the vaguest hints of huge, squatting buildings half hidden by the mist.
^_^
***
Scotch Tape and Boo rode on the turret.

It’s gonna be pretty unpleasant when that starts firing.

They could get off. It’s not like that’d be hard, you know.

I just don’t think Deus would pause for that long. He’d immediately swivel, shoot, and if they hadn’t fallen off their teeth might shatter from proximity.

Guh, you’re totally exaggerating, but whatever, just keep reading.

Starting to get into the fic, now?

Pfft, if I am, your interruptions aren’t helping.

True, kay.
***
P-21 trotted out and shoved me back to my hooves without a word, and I felt myself go red.
Right now really wasn’t the time for embarrassment.

It’s not like P-21 hasn’t saved you before, BJ. I don’t recall you getting quite so embarrassed when he first did, either, way back at the beginning with the foals and the raiders.

Duh, he likes her. It’s so ob-v.

I said no, now...

Look, babe, you can deny it however you want, but I KNOW this, okay? You can’t fight love, and that’s it!

...shooting a grenade into a cyber-dog’s mouth?

Ugh, you’re so immature. You’ll see.

I’m sure I will.
***
“One arched high and came down on a hellhound more keen on shooting Lacunae than paying attention directly above him. “
*than paying attention to what was directly above him

“Grawnerer or whatever his name was said the Enclave”
Grawnerer, or whatever his name was, said the Enclave

“Just try to find an frequency in the P band”
Are you sure it should be “an” and not a?
***
I wouldn’t elaborate on how.

Because they wouldn’t know alicorns are telepaths by now? Lacunae has spoken once or twice already, and always without moving her mouth. And the enclave soldiers are all on distraction duty? They aren’t gonna...
...okay, reading one sentence ahead now, and... there we go.
Fun battle, though. Really played up the Hellhound’s form of guerrilla tactics.

...hmm? Oh, yeah, whatever she said.

A little distracted?

Yeah, Mellissa called, stuff is happening.

We can stop for a bit if you-

Gezz, look, I can multitask or whatever, it’s fine!

Kay, going...
***
For a moment, I was absolutely certain both were going to die, and then the zebra’s snapping cape suddenly whipped across her face, blinding her and causing her hoofstrike to miss by inches. For a moment, I was absolutely certain both were going to die, and then the zebra’s snapping cape suddenly whipped across her face, blinding her and causing her hoofstrike to miss by inches.
Unicorn telekinesis?

Teaming up with Lancer? The guy who you know best for betraying you so soon after you first met? Oh yeah, I’m SURE he’ll keep his side of this deal.
***
At the moment, I had way too much on my plate to take on new mysteries.

Hah, it’d be funny if Snipe suggested this line.
***
“He’s shot me multiple times in the back, and I haven’t died yet,” I said calmly. “Must be really frustrating for him.

Blackjack: But, hey, all my friends try to kill me, remember?
P-21: ...
Blackjack: I mean, you shot me in the back, once, too.
P-21: ...
Blackjack: ...or was that in the butt? Gezz, that was so long ago…
P-21: ...I swear, you make it SO hard not to hate you, sometimes.
***
. Once again, though, we’d gotten lucky. There was only one power-armored pegasus guarding the balcony. When she trotted close, Sunset and I reached out, grabbed her by her tail, and jerked her through the doorway. One sharp blow later, the guard was unconscious, and we moved out on the balcony.

One sharp blow through power armor can knock someone out? Where did they hit?!

I dunno, maybe there’s, like, a weak spot or something?

In power armor?

Yeah, sure, a... what’s it called... heel something.

Achilles heel.

Yeah! Oh my glob, this one time my ex, Brad, he tripped while playing lumpball and totally twisted his ankle up all gross. He was all “Uh, someone help!” and I was all “Oh my glob, someone, help!” and I TOTALLY saved his life. I grabbed the water cooler jug (which was, like, SUPER heavy) and totally got ice out on his ankle. But, of course, then he was all “LSP, why did you pour ice water all over me?” and I was all “Cause you’re, like, super hawt, Brad!” and a week later we were totally dating!

...is that the end?

What, you want more? Kay, see-

No, I mean, I was talking about power armor and... you know what? Nevermind.

Pfft, that’s RIGHT never mind!

Why did I think this was a good idea...?

Maybe because-

RHETORICAL QUESTION
***
“Actually, I was thinking of trying to find this place’s reactor and blowing it up,” he said with a sheepish grin.
“Overkill, Dad.”

You know, it’s not overkill if they deserve it...
***
. “If I were designing this place, I’d drop the cables through the floor to maneframes below and run the broadcast cabling up an armored central trunk. Which I think is right... there.” She gestured at a long square conduit running along the wall from floor to ceiling, passing right by the edge of the balcony. “The problem is I have no idea how we’d carve our way in without everypony seeing us.”

Glory: “...since when do you know about electronics? That’s not plumbing.”
Scotch: “Pipes are pipes, whether they carry water or electricity.”
Glory: “... touché.”
***
Still, another dead end. I had no way of knowing how to acknowledge the request. Did I have to use my broadcaster? Transfer EC-1101 into the terminal? How did I do that?

Ask Echo, ya ding dong.
***
“Let... let me try,” Glory said as she stepped up to the field and touched it with a wing. The feather passed right through like it was water. She passed right through, and once she was on the far side, the magic field dropped, leaving a ring of deactivated gems. “Wow... it worked. Let’s go.” From her flustered appearance, she clearly didn’t want to talk about it.

Directly in front of an Enclave soldier.
Who, in their right mind, can’t see what’s coming next?

...why, what’s coming next?

They’re gonna use her to open other doors like that, basically.

...why? Is that some kind of big deal?

Oh yes. Very.
***
But there was one surefire way to know that this was Rainbow Dash’s office. It lay right beside a photograph of six young Ministry Mares in ragged and torn dresses with a dapper young dragon standing beside them, a mouth-scrawled note read ‘Best night ever!’ in the upper corner. It was a small figurine of a purple unicorn smiling brightly back at me, clean despite the dust that covered everything else. I lifted the Twilight figurine and turned it over to read the inscription. ‘Be Smart’.
The pony gang was complete.

Tingles...
***
“You shall not pass!” Lacunae thundered, her eyes blazing.

*gasp*

...what?

I KNOW THAT REFERENCE

You do?

YES, I LOVE THAT MOVIE! Oh my glob, we watched that for movie night, like, a month ago! Sam, Frodo, Gandalf... they’re all so cute together, we watched it twice!

...uh...

Is she pony Gandalf? Why didn’t you tell me she was pony Gandalf?!

I... didn’t know?

This fic is SO much better now!

Kay. Well, yay for Somber and random references...

Yes!
***
“Glory’s told me the Enclave aren’t a bunch of selfish assholes!” I shouted back

Their objective is to get into the SPP to help protect the Enclave, and they’re particularly encouraged to do so now that they think Thunderhead might be gunning for taking out the rest of them.
Sure, they aren’t really respecting Glory’s life, here, but they aren’t being all that selfish in risking the life of a traitor to save their entire people.

I dunno, like… it’s still pretty lame or whatever.

…but to save their people’s life?

No, I know, but… well, Finn wouldn’t do that. He’d be awesome and just, like… whatever. It’d be fine.

Eh, different world, different rules.

You WOULD say that.

I don’t even know what that means.

You’d say that, too.

I know. I did say it.

Look, I can’t deal with your drama and the fic’s drama at the same time, you know. Melissa called and the party was called off. SOMEONE called her parents and they were all “Blah blah, we’re lumping awful and you can’t have, like, fifty people in a 2 bed 1 bath.”

Wow, yeah, that’s messed up.

Eh… at least no one’s told them about the after-party, yet.
***
A gap appeared ahead of us, and a lone figure slowly advanced through the mist. The zebra stallion advancing moved with a slow gait that conveyed terrible power and grace all at once. His head was concealed by a dragon skull carved with strange glyphs across the bone. His powerful body bore innumerable scars across its surface, including a horrible Y-shaped injury across his chest. More carved dragonbone armor formed spikes at his hips and flank, strapped in place. His weapon was a simple double-pointed spear with dragon fangs tipping both ends.

It would be great if that was all made from the dragon in that museum BJ once got a fang from. IIRC, when she went back, the entire skeleton had been picked clean. She also encountered zebra then, so... yeah. Your thoughts, LSP?

Duh, he’s a total freak.

Thank you, LSP.
***
. “I don’t have an argument with you, Legate. “
I know it’s probably technically correct, but I’d prefer if you used “quarrel”.
...also, Blackjack and company SERIOUSLY aren’t AT ALL affected by the tank firing so close-by?

Wait? Where was Rampage?
Wait isn’t a question. Try it; try saying just “wait” as a question. Join it to the following sentence with a comma, or end it with an exclamation point or ellipses.
***
Then the blood reversed itself and retracted into the wound. Before my eyes, the injury healed itself and left only the faintest scar to give any indication he’d been injured at all. “Oh, come on!” I shouted as I magically waved the sword at him. “I know you don’t have the Phoenix Talisman, so stop cheating already!”
He turned slowly towards me with that sure smile. “You think I needed it? No. I was merely curious how such a thing came to be, and wished to keep it out of your hooves. An immortal, regenerating Maiden of the Stars would have been annoying.” He reached up and rubbed his neck. “Still, it is commendable that you struck what would otherwise have been a killing blow. Even the dragon I slew to craft this armor did not manage such.”
***
What the cluck are they talking about. What does he know about the phoenix talisman and... just what. I feel like I must be missing some sort of massive side-plot, here.

No, mwee, I motamy met it…

Swallow first, maybe?

*gulp* Kay, you see, he can totally read minds.

Huh?

What? He can do, like, fifty other things, why not that?

…kay, sure. Let’s go with that.

Mold mya.
***
“Oh yes, you are. You always have been. You are the instrument of chaos and destruction. Death follows in your wake. Misery pursues you like hunting hounds. All who love you suffer. All who hate you die. But you have yet to embrace your destiny. When you accept it... when you revel in the slaughter you are capable of... then, and only then, will you be worthy of the death I will grant you.” He took his hoof off my head. “You see, Blackjack, you are the villain. The monster. Once you accept that fundamental truth, you can be slain.”

Nice monologue there, “hero.”

Kay, I think I’ve worked it out.

Hmm?

First, the teeth. Bleach those. The hair’s kinda messed up, but I’ve totally seen people pull that off in a pinch. Lose the bones, I don’t really get why he’s got them anyway, take a bath of course, then…

LSP, I don’t think he’s the type to take makeover advice.

…well, I guess there’s just no helping some people, then.

Exactly.

Even if a little eyeliner would do wonders for your look.

Thank you, LSP.
***
“I... am... not a monster!” I shouted as I struggled against the crushing pressure. I even managed to rise to my hooves a little. “I’m not!”

*gasp* I know just how she feels...

You do?

Yes... I, too, was once thought to be a monster, all because I was hungry and attacked by my wolf family...

We’re literally just a couple pages from the end of the fic, I think we can hold any more side-stories for now.
***
“When they’d departed, the air pressure on me relaxed and the stone spikes trapping Deus crumbled to rubble.”
Crumble?
***

And DONE!!!

That took forever...

And now it’s over!

And the after-party’s in a half hour, come on!

Wait, I’m going with you?

Yes, so you can make it up to me for sitting through an entire lumping novel.

But I, uh… don’t have anything to wear?

Kay, here.

...a garbage bag?

Dress.

Um, I… kay, well, just let me wrap up. Ahem… good chapter, kinda dragged on, though.

Not enough romance! Not enough intrigue, either! You’re “mysteries” amount to BJ saying something, then shrugging! How have you gone so long with this fic just doing that?!

…did you just make a coherent point?

… *smack*

Ah! Okay, we’re going. Enjoyed the chapter, see ya next time.

Out!
...Um. Really sorry, but I'm going to have to skip your review this time. I tried reading it, and it was to much a a struggle to keep going. Was there anything in the review that you think it's important for me/the writing team to know?

jacky2734 wrote:While we're on the subject of Zebra Robots, where are they? Seriously, we were told that late in the war, the Zs had to start relying on robots more than the ponies did just to stay in the fight, yet all we've seen in the story are Equestrian designs, a zebra tank, and a few Zebra Cyborgs. We're not even told what the Zebras' warbots even look like, or how they were deployed on the battlefield.
Unless the cyborgs are actually just full robots with artificial skin like a terminator, which, now that I think about it, is actually quite likely. It would give the impression that the zebras still had plenty of reserves and better cybernetics than the ponies who developed the concept.
We did see a few dead Zebra robots in the same memory where we first saw the Brood of Coyotal. As for why we haven't seen any live ones... Well, I'd like to think that, if there are Zebra warbots operating in the Wasteland, they're either really, really stealthy or don't leave any survivors. :)

Icy Shake wrote:
One little thing:
"A gap appeared ahead of us, and a lone figure slowly advanced through the mist. The zebra stallion advancing moved with a slow gait that conveyed terrible power and grace all at once."

Regarding the second sentence, the word order just strikes me as strange; I start out thinking I'll read one sentence (like "The zebra stallion[,] advancing with a slow gait that conveyed terrible power and grace all at once,
[something]), but then end up reading one structured altogether differently, and it throws me off a little.
I think it might read better as "The advancing zebra stallion moved with a slow gait . . ." That sets up two instances of forms of "advance" too close together, though, so maybe "approaching" or some such could be subbed in.
(Or, come to think of it, the adjective could be merged into the verb, like "The zebra stallion advanced (or whatever) with
. . .")
But I'm probably making too big of a deal out of a minor point by now.
I don't really see a problem with the word order, but thank you for pointing out the repetition.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by swicked on Fri Mar 01, 2013 11:06 am

O. Hinds wrote:...Um. Really sorry, but I'm going to have to skip your review this time. I tried reading it, and it was to much a a struggle to keep going. Was there anything in the review that you think it's important for me/the writing team to know?
Err... I said at the beginning, it has highly-debatable usefullness. No, I don't think there's really anything to be gleaned. I tried to stay true to the character of LSP over providing, well, relevant opinions... and she wouldn't really have anything useful to say about a fic like this, particularly since it's not her genre.
If you don't mind me asking, do my reviews generally "help"? I always thought they were just kinda amusing.
I generally try to make my reviews be reviews, but due to reasons I kinda had to make this one this way, so... yeah. 99% sure it won't happen again.
If anything, I'd of recommended you not read it. I felt really silly making it, after all XP

There's a couple spelling/grammar corrections, but they're old enough I wouldn't be surprised if they'd already been corrected.
Oh, and the fact that no one ever seems to react to Deus's turret firing right next to their heads.

Edit:
Is it ironic that my spouse decided not just to read the review, but quite enjoyed it? Particularly since said spouse has never read, nor had interest in reading, Fallout Equestria?
While the writers (well, one of them, so far) the review should presumably be for don't care for it at all? XD

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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by OneMoreDaySK on Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:41 pm

swicked wrote:
O. Hinds wrote:...Um. Really sorry, but I'm going to have to skip your review this time. I tried reading it, and it was to much a a struggle to keep going. Was there anything in the review that you think it's important for me/the writing team to know?
Err... I said at the beginning, it has highly-debatable usefullness. No, I don't think there's really anything to be gleaned. I tried to stay true to the character of LSP over providing, well, relevant opinions... and she wouldn't really have anything useful to say about a fic like this, particularly since it's not her genre.
If you don't mind me asking, do my reviews generally "help"? I always thought they were just kinda amusing.
I generally try to make my reviews be reviews, but due to reasons I kinda had to make this one this way, so... yeah. 99% sure it won't happen again.
If anything, I'd of recommended you not read it. I felt really silly making it, after all XP

There's a couple spelling/grammar corrections, but they're old enough I wouldn't be surprised if they'd already been corrected.
Oh, and the fact that no one ever seems to react to Deus's turret firing right next to their heads.

Edit:
Is it ironic that my spouse decided not just to read the review, but quite enjoyed it? Particularly since said spouse has never read, nor had interest in reading, Fallout Equestria?
While the writers (well, one of them, so far) the review should presumably be for don't care for it at all? XD

Well, what a ways a wish can go. I'll read it soon, just let me catch up on sleep and reread the chapter. I'm sure judging from everyone else's comments that it was enjoyable.

And by the way, thanks.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by CamoBadger on Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:57 pm

swicked wrote:
Ask Echo, ya ding dong.
I lost it here

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Post by O. Hinds on Fri Mar 01, 2013 1:45 pm

@Swicked:
Ah, thanks.

swicked wrote:If you don't mind me asking, do my reviews generally "help"? I always thought they were just kinda amusing.
Well, I consider amusing me to be being helpful :). More seriously, though, even if there are no mechanical problems spotted (which is usually what I work on in this area), feedback is generally useful to increase our knowledge pool (though that sort of thing is more for Somber than for me).
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Post by CD on Fri Mar 01, 2013 4:22 pm

I hope it's okay if I make my introductory post here. I caught up on this story today and Hinds encouraged me to join the forum, so now that I won't have to worry about spoilers, I've done so. It's been a long read, but a fun one, and I'm anxious to see the next chapters posted.

I should probably say something relevant to the discussion running at the moment, but can't think of something that's not been said better before. Anyway, congrats to the writer on making such an epic fanfic and spawning hundreds of pages worth of discussion.
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Post by Ketchup on Fri Mar 01, 2013 4:36 pm

Welcome, CD.
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Post by Sindri on Fri Mar 01, 2013 4:36 pm

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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by CamoBadger on Fri Mar 01, 2013 4:42 pm

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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by swicked on Fri Mar 01, 2013 4:48 pm

CD wrote:I hope it's okay if I make my introductory post here. I caught up on this story today and Hinds encouraged me to join the forum, so now that I won't have to worry about spoilers, I've done so. It's been a long read, but a fun one, and I'm anxious to see the next chapters posted.

I should probably say something relevant to the discussion running at the moment, but can't think of something that's not been said better before. Anyway, congrats to the writer on making such an epic fanfic and spawning hundreds of pages worth of discussion.
Hundreds?
We were clearing thousands weekly back on equestria daily.
We're beyond several tens of thousands now.
Maybe hundreds of thousands? Eh...

Anyway, 'lo.

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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by CD on Fri Mar 01, 2013 4:53 pm

swicked wrote:
CD wrote:I hope it's okay if I make my introductory post here. I caught up on this story today and Hinds encouraged me to join the forum, so now that I won't have to worry about spoilers, I've done so. It's been a long read, but a fun one, and I'm anxious to see the next chapters posted.

I should probably say something relevant to the discussion running at the moment, but can't think of something that's not been said better before. Anyway, congrats to the writer on making such an epic fanfic and spawning hundreds of pages worth of discussion.
Hundreds?
We were clearing thousands weekly back on equestria daily.
We're beyond several tens of thousands now.
Maybe hundreds of thousands? Eh...

Anyway, 'lo.

Yeah, I've kinda noticed. I was actually interested in reading some of the reactions to chapter 33, but it's easier to go diving for quarters in quicksand.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Sindri on Fri Mar 01, 2013 4:57 pm

CD wrote:Yeah, I've kinda noticed. I was actually interested in reading some of the reactions to chapter 33, but it's easier to go diving for quarters in quicksand.
Well, if we go through by date then-

Wait, I don't think there's a record of when chapters were first released. And the doc has almost certainly been edited since then...

Hey Hinds, do you have it written down anywhere?
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Post by swicked on Fri Mar 01, 2013 5:09 pm

I think it was about a year go.
February or March of last year.
That's where I'd start, at least.

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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Vergil on Fri Mar 01, 2013 5:28 pm

swicked wrote:I think it was about a year go.
February or March of last year.
That's where I'd start, at least.

I believe it was March. I first started reading PH right when 33 was released.
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Post by Valikdu on Fri Mar 01, 2013 5:52 pm

Probably January. I have ch.38 as a PDF, and it's dated March 5th.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Vergil on Fri Mar 01, 2013 7:28 pm

Valikdu wrote:Probably January. I have ch.38 as a PDF, and it's dated March 5th.

Huh. Guess I've lost all sense of time then. Meh, that's overrated anyway.
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