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Re: Season 4 Confirmed

Post by CamoBadger on Fri Oct 25, 2013 2:11 pm

Dat finale...

is probably a rumor that will never happen

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Re: Season 4 Confirmed

Post by Formis_Fluttergod on Fri Oct 25, 2013 5:33 pm

Scienza wrote:
Formis_Fluttergod wrote:
Spoiler:
It may be unlikely, but it'd certainly explain her rather cheery complexion/color scheme compared to the rest of the family. Spike
Spoiler:
But pony genetics are weird, just look at the Cake's kids...

Y'know, that would be an amusing episode where Applebloom is forced to realize that she is inevitably doomed to get an apple cutie mark.
Spoiler:
True, pony genetics is weird, but unless I missed some glaring exception it seems that members of the same family always share similar colors and/or color shcemes. Like Twilight's family, where both kids have colors more or less dervied from their parents' color scheme. Same for Rarity and Sweetie Belle and probably even RD. Cake Twins, not so much, but their beige is still kinda close to Mr. Cake's yellow. Diamond Tiara is the only example I can think of that doesn't fit, but we haven't seen her mother, so...

Then there's Pinkie, the only pink filly in the family consisted of gray and brown Earth Ponies.

I mean, I know the color scheme similarities are more for distinction between different families character/production-wise, but it still makes some sense, and Pinkie Pie is in the middle of all that sticking out like a sore thumb. Crazy 

CamoBadger wrote:Dat finale...

is probably a rumor that will never happen
If you say so, I haven't read it myself, just quickly skimmed through out of curiosity. Spike
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Re: Season 4 Confirmed

Post by Formis_Fluttergod on Sun Oct 27, 2013 7:39 am

Well, that was interesting: My Little Pony Season 4 Promo
Non-Spoilers:
Possibly a new intro. Twilight Sparkle 
Twilight maybe finally learned how to fly (again). Twilight crazy 
Also looks like Twilight finally got her window in Canterlot after she lost the first one to Spike in the Crystal Empire episodes. Spike
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Re: Season 4 Confirmed

Post by Formis_Fluttergod on Thu Oct 31, 2013 5:54 pm

Detailed synopsis and cast list of the first two episodes and a short synopsis for the third. It's possible they're the same as in that "Season 4 Episode List" that got leaked a while ago, can't say, didn't read it. Enjoy and keep any incriminating responses spoilered. Spike 
S04E01:

Season 4 Episode 1
Title: Princess Twilight Part 1
Synopsis: Princess Twilight is busy adjusting to her new wings and new role in Equestria when Celestia and Luna go missing. Meanwhile, her friends are all having unusual troubles of their own and it will take all of them working together to help find the missing royals.
Air Date: November 23, 2013

CAST:
Princess Twilight Sparkle (Tara Strong)
Spike (Cathy Weseluck)
Pinkie Pie (Andrea Libman)
Fluttershy (Andrea Libman)
Rarity (Tabitha St. Germain)
Apple Jack (Ashleigh Ball)
Rainbow Dash (Ashleigh Ball)
GUEST CAST:
Discord (John de Lancie)
Princess Celestia (Nicole Oliver)
Zecora (Brenda Crichlow)
Royal Guard, Royal Guard #3, Train Conductor (Andrew Francis)
Sweetie Belle (Claire Corlett)
Big Mac, Royal Guard #2, Messenger Pony (Peter New)

PRODUCTION CREDITS:
Kirsten Newlands, Executive Producer
Stephen Davis, Executive Producer
Meghan McCarthy, Co-Executive Producer, Story Editor, Writer
Jayson Thiessen, Co-Executive Producer, Supervising Director
S04E02:

Season 4 Episode 2:
Title: Princess Twilight Part 2
Synopsis: The ponies need to put the rest of the puzzle pieces together to find Celestia and Luna before it’s too late. Their journey becomes even more dangerous when they must travel deep into the heart of the expanding Everfree Forest and learn stunning news about the Elements of Harmony.
Air Date: November 23, 2013

CAST:
Twilight Sparkle (Tara Strong)
Spike (Cathy Weseluck)
Pinkie Pie (Andrea Libman)
Fluttershy (Andrea Libman)
Rarity (Tabitha St. Germain)
Apple Jack (Ashleigh Ball)
Rainbow Dash (Ashleigh Ball)
GUEST CAST:
Discord (John de Lancie)
Princess Celestia (Nicole Oliver)
Zecora (Brenda Crichlow)

PRODUCTION CREDITS:
Kirsten Newlands, Executive Producer
Stephen Davis, Executive Producer
Meghan McCarthy, Co-Executive Producer, Story Editor, Writer
Jayson Thiessen, Co-Executive Producer, Supervising Director
S04E03:

Season 4 Episode 3
Title: Castle-Mania
Synopsis:  While in Luna and Celestia's old castle, the ponies are convinced it is haunted by the Pony of Shadows.
Air Date: November 30, 2013
Seems that even though they said the season 3 finale and the first two episodes of season 4 were supposed to be a three-parter, it seems even the third could be slightly linked. If they're attempting for a more persistent storyline instead of purely episodic setting I can't say I mind it. Big mac

And also character description of Mane 6 for season 4, vast majority is already well known and unchanged, but there are some bits here and there that might be interesting. Decide for yourselves.
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Re: Season 4 Confirmed

Post by Scienza on Thu Oct 31, 2013 6:08 pm

Formis_Fluttergod wrote:Detailed synopsis and cast list of the first two episodes and a short synopsis for the third. It's possible they're the same as in that "Season 4 Episode List" that got leaked a while ago, can't say, didn't read it. Enjoy and keep any incriminating responses spoilered. Spike 
S04E01:

Season 4 Episode 1
Title: Princess Twilight Part 1
Synopsis: Princess Twilight is busy adjusting to her new wings and new role in Equestria when Celestia and Luna go missing. Meanwhile, her friends are all having unusual troubles of their own and it will take all of them working together to help find the missing royals.
Air Date: November 23, 2013

CAST:
Princess Twilight Sparkle (Tara Strong)
Spike (Cathy Weseluck)
Pinkie Pie (Andrea Libman)
Fluttershy (Andrea Libman)
Rarity (Tabitha St. Germain)
Apple Jack (Ashleigh Ball)
Rainbow Dash (Ashleigh Ball)
GUEST CAST:
Discord (John de Lancie)
Princess Celestia (Nicole Oliver)
Zecora (Brenda Crichlow)
Royal Guard, Royal Guard #3, Train Conductor (Andrew Francis)
Sweetie Belle (Claire Corlett)
Big Mac, Royal Guard #2, Messenger Pony (Peter New)

PRODUCTION CREDITS:
Kirsten Newlands, Executive Producer
Stephen Davis, Executive Producer
Meghan McCarthy, Co-Executive Producer, Story Editor, Writer
Jayson Thiessen, Co-Executive Producer, Supervising Director
S04E02:

Season 4 Episode 2:
Title: Princess Twilight Part 2
Synopsis: The ponies need to put the rest of the puzzle pieces together to find Celestia and Luna before it’s too late. Their journey becomes even more dangerous when they must travel deep into the heart of the expanding Everfree Forest and learn stunning news about the Elements of Harmony.
Air Date: November 23, 2013

CAST:
Twilight Sparkle (Tara Strong)
Spike (Cathy Weseluck)
Pinkie Pie (Andrea Libman)
Fluttershy (Andrea Libman)
Rarity (Tabitha St. Germain)
Apple Jack (Ashleigh Ball)
Rainbow Dash (Ashleigh Ball)
GUEST CAST:
Discord (John de Lancie)
Princess Celestia (Nicole Oliver)
Zecora (Brenda Crichlow)

PRODUCTION CREDITS:
Kirsten Newlands, Executive Producer
Stephen Davis, Executive Producer
Meghan McCarthy, Co-Executive Producer, Story Editor, Writer
Jayson Thiessen, Co-Executive Producer, Supervising Director
S04E03:

Season 4 Episode 3
Title: Castle-Mania
Synopsis:  While in Luna and Celestia's old castle, the ponies are convinced it is haunted by the Pony of Shadows.
Air Date: November 30, 2013
Seems that even though they said the season 3 finale and the first two episodes of season 4 were supposed to be a three-parter, it seems even the third could be slightly linked. If they're attempting for a more persistent storyline instead of purely episodic setting I can't say I mind it. Big mac

And also character description of Mane 6 for season 4, vast majority is already well known and unchanged, but there are some bits here and there that might be interesting. Decide for yourselves.
Dem Spoilz:
Pony of Shadows, eh... Sounds 3edgy5me

Also, I am really excited the opening two-parter ties into the S3 finale, since it introduced a lot of interesting information about the Elements which wasn't elaborated upon as much as I would have liked. It really should have been a 2-3 part episode, so a continuation of it sounds fantastic.

Also, I really, really hope that it's another musical episodes. Musical episodes are awesome.
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Re: Season 4 Confirmed

Post by Formis_Fluttergod on Thu Oct 31, 2013 6:46 pm

Scienza wrote:
Dem Spoilz:
Pony of Shadows, eh... Sounds 3edgy5me

Also, I am really excited the opening two-parter ties into the S3 finale, since it introduced a lot of interesting information about the Elements which wasn't elaborated upon as much as I would have liked. It really should have been a 2-3 part episode, so a continuation of it sounds fantastic.

Also, I really, really hope that it's another musical episodes. Musical episodes are awesome.
Spoiler:
Oh, I don't think the third episode will be an outright continuation of the three-parter, but even a slight relation of the episodes would be a good start.

Musical Episodes... Weeell, depends if it's gonna be at the expense of pacing like in MMC. They were forced to do it to hurry up the episode's plot, but that doesn't change the fact they were trying to tell a story worth at least two episodes (if not more) in just one.
I'd rather not repeat that, thank you very much. Twilight crazy 
EDIT:
Well, speaking of musical episodes...
Though I think they already revealed something similar before.


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Re: Season 4 Confirmed

Post by Guest on Thu Oct 31, 2013 6:55 pm

Formis_Fluttergod wrote:Detailed synopsis and cast list of the first two episodes and a short synopsis for the third. It's possible they're the same as in that "Season 4 Episode List" that got leaked a while ago, can't say, didn't read it. Enjoy and keep any incriminating responses spoilered. Spike 
S04E01:

Season 4 Episode 1
Title: Princess Twilight Part 1
Synopsis: Princess Twilight is busy adjusting to her new wings and new role in Equestria when Celestia and Luna go missing. Meanwhile, her friends are all having unusual troubles of their own and it will take all of them working together to help find the missing royals.
Air Date: November 23, 2013

CAST:
Princess Twilight Sparkle (Tara Strong)
Spike (Cathy Weseluck)
Pinkie Pie (Andrea Libman)
Fluttershy (Andrea Libman)
Rarity (Tabitha St. Germain)
Apple Jack (Ashleigh Ball)
Rainbow Dash (Ashleigh Ball)
GUEST CAST:
Discord (John de Lancie)
Princess Celestia (Nicole Oliver)
Zecora (Brenda Crichlow)
Royal Guard, Royal Guard #3, Train Conductor (Andrew Francis)
Sweetie Belle (Claire Corlett)
Big Mac, Royal Guard #2, Messenger Pony (Peter New)

PRODUCTION CREDITS:
Kirsten Newlands, Executive Producer
Stephen Davis, Executive Producer
Meghan McCarthy, Co-Executive Producer, Story Editor, Writer
Jayson Thiessen, Co-Executive Producer, Supervising Director
S04E02:

Season 4 Episode 2:
Title: Princess Twilight Part 2
Synopsis: The ponies need to put the rest of the puzzle pieces together to find Celestia and Luna before it’s too late. Their journey becomes even more dangerous when they must travel deep into the heart of the expanding Everfree Forest and learn stunning news about the Elements of Harmony.
Air Date: November 23, 2013

CAST:
Twilight Sparkle (Tara Strong)
Spike (Cathy Weseluck)
Pinkie Pie (Andrea Libman)
Fluttershy (Andrea Libman)
Rarity (Tabitha St. Germain)
Apple Jack (Ashleigh Ball)
Rainbow Dash (Ashleigh Ball)
GUEST CAST:
Discord (John de Lancie)
Princess Celestia (Nicole Oliver)
Zecora (Brenda Crichlow)

PRODUCTION CREDITS:
Kirsten Newlands, Executive Producer
Stephen Davis, Executive Producer
Meghan McCarthy, Co-Executive Producer, Story Editor, Writer
Jayson Thiessen, Co-Executive Producer, Supervising Director
S04E03:

Season 4 Episode 3
Title: Castle-Mania
Synopsis:  While in Luna and Celestia's old castle, the ponies are convinced it is haunted by the Pony of Shadows.
Air Date: November 30, 2013
Seems that even though they said the season 3 finale and the first two episodes of season 4 were supposed to be a three-parter, it seems even the third could be slightly linked. If they're attempting for a more persistent storyline instead of purely episodic setting I can't say I mind it. Big mac

And also character description of Mane 6 for season 4, vast majority is already well known and unchanged, but there are some bits here and there that might be interesting. Decide for yourselves.
That third episode title.

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Re: Season 4 Confirmed

Post by CamoBadger on Fri Nov 01, 2013 3:56 am

Formis_Fluttergod wrote:
Spoiler:
Oh, I don't think the third episode will be an outright continuation of the three-parter, but even a slight relation of the episodes would be a good start.

Musical Episodes... Weeell, depends if it's gonna be at the expense of pacing like in MMC. They were forced to do it to hurry up the episode's plot, but that doesn't change the fact they were trying to tell a story worth at least two episodes (if not more) in just one.
I'd rather not repeat that, thank you very much. Twilight crazy 
EDIT:
Well, speaking of musical episodes...
Though I think they already revealed something similar before.
lol you still believe Meghan's lies.

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Re: Season 4 Confirmed

Post by Formis_Fluttergod on Fri Nov 01, 2013 10:11 am

CamoBadger wrote:
Formis_Fluttergod wrote:
Spoiler:
Oh, I don't think the third episode will be an outright continuation of the three-parter, but even a slight relation of the episodes would be a good start.

Musical Episodes... Weeell, depends if it's gonna be at the expense of pacing like in MMC. They were forced to do it to hurry up the episode's plot, but that doesn't change the fact they were trying to tell a story worth at least two episodes (if not more) in just one.
I'd rather not repeat that, thank you very much. Twilight crazy 
EDIT:
Well, speaking of musical episodes...
Though I think they already revealed something similar before.
lol you still believe Meghan's lies.
Well it's plausible until proven otherwise. Spike
And since it's highly dependent on person's opinion it could be both "true" and "lie" at the same time, depends on one's taste in music.
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Re: Season 4 Confirmed

Post by Formis_Fluttergod on Fri Nov 01, 2013 2:59 pm

Oh well, so much for more persistent storyline, but it looks interesting none the less.
S04E04 Synopsis:
Season 4 Episode 4
Title: Daring Don't
Synopsis:  Rainbow Dash and friends offer to help their favorite author finish her latest book.
Air Date: December 7, 2013


Funny thing "Rainbow Dash and friends", didn't know all of the Mane 6 liked the Daring Do books so much. Could it be some other fans + RD instead of the Mane 6? Spike 
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Re: Season 4 Confirmed

Post by Downloaded Skill on Fri Nov 01, 2013 5:49 pm

If S4 E4 goes like it does in my spoiler I will be a very, very happy man.

Spoiler:

Rainbow dash tries to help Twilight Velvet (Twilight's Mom writes the DD books in the comics) finish her last book, but Rainbow keeps trying to push her headcannon into the story. The whole episode becomes a jab at the fans who keep yelling at writers to put their ideas in. A meta parody of sorts.
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Re: Season 4 Confirmed

Post by Formis_Fluttergod on Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:12 pm

Downloaded Skill wrote:If S4 E4 goes like it does in my spoiler I will be a very, very happy man.

Spoiler:

Rainbow dash tries to help Twilight Velvet (Twilight's Mom writes the DD books in the comics) finish her last book, but Rainbow keeps trying to push her headcannon into the story. The whole episode becomes a jab at the fans who keep yelling at writers to put their ideas in. A meta parody of sorts.
Spoiler:
That was in the comics? My memory could very well be failing me due to the large quantities of Pony material I've processed through my brain, but I thought that idea was from a fanfiction, not part of the canon. Derpy Hooves
Well, if it indeed is official, then it makes sense why all of the Mane 6 would want to help, and it would be hilarious to watch it happen like in your spoiler. Spike
Though in some very rare cases the fans are justified in their actions as they go through with it in the name of sanity and narrative coherence. *cough* ME3 Ending *cough*


EDIT: Speaking of the comics, the last two issues were hilarious, and it's nice that the comics give more space to the secondary characters, fleshing them out a bit with added character development.
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Re: Season 4 Confirmed

Post by Formis_Fluttergod on Fri Nov 01, 2013 10:45 pm

They're really starting to get crazy with all the hype, I don't think they could reveal much more than they already have aside from airing the episodes early. Spike
Episode 1 Beginning - Script:
It's such a pain posting all these while trying not to look at anything of it. Scootaloo
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Re: Season 4 Confirmed

Post by Formis_Fluttergod on Sat Nov 02, 2013 9:14 pm

Season 4 Promo:
Twilight going into the Avatar State, Discord in need of popcorn and Inception, this is going to be an interesting season. Spike
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Re: Season 4 Confirmed

Post by Formis_Fluttergod on Sat Nov 09, 2013 5:15 pm

Season 4 Promo... Again:

Moar and moar promo videos, Hub's lost it. But Twilight seems like she's getting the hang of it... flying, that is. They sure do love showing off her wings. Spike 

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Re: Season 4 Confirmed

Post by Formis_Fluttergod on Tue Nov 12, 2013 2:23 pm

Episode 05:

Season 4 Episode 5
Title: Flight to the Finish
Synopsis:  None Yet - We know it's a CMC Episode though.
Air Date: December 14, 2013

Looks like it might be the "Scootaloo can't fly" episode. We shall see.
Episode 01-02 (Possible) Screenshots:





Welp, looks like there could be some serious feels.
Guess we now also know for sure why was the Castle of The Royal Pony Sisters so decimated and why Celestia left it. Now the only mystery is why did the Everfree appear. But since the entire two-parter is supposed to deal with the forest I presume it will be explained.

Also if the flashback stuff is gonna be all in the two-parter, where does the third episode, also taking place in the caste, come in all of that?

EDIT: And we might also get an actual fight scene, which would be nice after that rather anti-climatic duel between Celestia and Chrysalis. Big mac 
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Re: Season 4 Confirmed

Post by cb5 on Tue Nov 12, 2013 2:38 pm

Formis_Fluttergod wrote:
Episode 05:

Season 4 Episode 5
Title: Flight to the Finish
Synopsis:  None Yet - We know it's a CMC Episode though.
Air Date: December 14, 2013

Looks like it might be the "Scootaloo can't fly" episode. We shall see.
Episode 01-02 (Possible) Screenshots:





Welp, looks like there could be some serious feels.
Guess we now also know for sure why was the Castle of The Royal Pony Sisters so decimated and why Celestia left it. Now the only mystery is why did the Everfree appear. But since the entire two-parter is supposed to deal with the forest I presume it will be explained.

Also if the flashback stuff is gonna be all in the two-parter, where does the third episode, also taking place in the caste, come in all of that?

EDIT: And we might also get an actual fight scene, which would be nice after that rather anti-climatic duel between Celestia and Chrysalis. Big mac 
Nah, the screenshots are a fake cause look at the highlights.  Someone did a damn good job making these look like the show though.
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Re: Season 4 Confirmed

Post by Formis_Fluttergod on Tue Nov 12, 2013 3:15 pm

cb5 wrote:Nah, the screenshots are a fake cause look at the highlights.  Someone did a damn good job making these look like the show though.
What highlights, you mean the lighting on the Ponies? That one's in the Promo as well and if I recall correctly it was even in MMC, and honestly I wouldn't mind if they added some dynamic lighting. Spike
The only thing that seems off to me is the hub logo being in the upper right corner instead of bottom right.

EDIT: Apparently people say that even the title has some error in it, not sure where...
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Re: Season 4 Confirmed

Post by cb5 on Tue Nov 12, 2013 3:36 pm

Formis_Fluttergod wrote:EDIT: Apparently people say that even the title has some error in it, not sure where...
It's the wrong font, and the kerning on the 1 is all fucked up.  Don't get me wrong, the person who made this sure knows their stuff, but they probably tried to find the font the show uses and found something very similar.  Hard to do though if you don't know the name of the font, cause the number of fonts out there getting something close to a special font is pretty good.
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Re: Season 4 Confirmed

Post by Formis_Fluttergod on Tue Nov 12, 2013 3:54 pm

cb5 wrote:
Formis_Fluttergod wrote:EDIT: Apparently people say that even the title has some error in it, not sure where...
It's the wrong font, and the kerning on the 1 is all fucked up.  Don't get me wrong, the person who made this sure knows their stuff, but they probably tried to find the font the show uses and found something very similar.  Hard to do though if you don't know the name of the font, cause the number of fonts out there getting something close to a special font is pretty good.
I probably wouldn't be able to notice that even if I tried. It's not like I was paying any attention to the font the show was using. Spike 
Spoiler:
We'll see, we know there's going to be flashback (or time-travel) episode, so the screens could probably be legit in terms of what events they depict. If they really are legit (and edited) screens from the first two episodes remains to be seen.
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Re: Season 4 Confirmed

Post by Formis_Fluttergod on Tue Nov 12, 2013 7:13 pm

One More Screen:
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Re: Season 4 Confirmed

Post by CamoBadger on Tue Nov 12, 2013 11:08 pm

Formis_Fluttergod wrote:
cb5 wrote:
Formis_Fluttergod wrote:EDIT: Apparently people say that even the title has some error in it, not sure where...
It's the wrong font, and the kerning on the 1 is all fucked up.  Don't get me wrong, the person who made this sure knows their stuff, but they probably tried to find the font the show uses and found something very similar.  Hard to do though if you don't know the name of the font, cause the number of fonts out there getting something close to a special font is pretty good.
I probably wouldn't be able to notice that even if I tried. It's not like I was paying any attention to the font the show was using. Spike 
Spoiler:
We'll see, we know there's going to be flashback (or time-travel) episode, so the screens could probably be legit in terms of what events they depict. If they really are legit (and edited) screens from the first two episodes remains to be seen.
Hence this rage-enducing theory others have made:
Spoiler:

Twilight goes back in time to when Luna was NMM. NMM defeats Celestia, but Mary Sue Sparkle arrives just in time to use the elements of harmony of the past and seals away NMM. Thus, sealing her fate as the most forced character in the show's history.

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Re: Season 4 Confirmed

Post by Scienza on Wed Nov 13, 2013 8:52 am

CamoBadger wrote:
Formis_Fluttergod wrote:
cb5 wrote:
Formis_Fluttergod wrote:EDIT: Apparently people say that even the title has some error in it, not sure where...
It's the wrong font, and the kerning on the 1 is all fucked up.  Don't get me wrong, the person who made this sure knows their stuff, but they probably tried to find the font the show uses and found something very similar.  Hard to do though if you don't know the name of the font, cause the number of fonts out there getting something close to a special font is pretty good.
I probably wouldn't be able to notice that even if I tried. It's not like I was paying any attention to the font the show was using. Spike 
Spoiler:
We'll see, we know there's going to be flashback (or time-travel) episode, so the screens could probably be legit in terms of what events they depict. If they really are legit (and edited) screens from the first two episodes remains to be seen.
Hence this rage-enducing theory others have made:
Spoiler:

Twilight goes back in time to when Luna was NMM. NMM defeats Celestia, but Mary Sue Sparkle arrives just in time to use the elements of harmony of the past and seals away NMM. Thus, sealing her fate as the most forced character in the show's history.
Spoiler:

Eh, I'm still iffy on Twilicorn. You could see it coming, but they should have waited for the show's finale.

Also, everything's weird with the elements now. Horse Women established that apparently Magic's the only important one. Still, doesn't Twi-Twi need the rest of the gang?

Mayhaps we'll see Metal Gear Twilight again? And hopefully NMM not being a generically mean "I'm so edgy AHAHAHAHAHA" villain.
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Re: Season 4 Confirmed

Post by Formis_Fluttergod on Wed Nov 13, 2013 9:26 am

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Formis_Fluttergod wrote:
Spoiler:
We'll see, we know there's going to be flashback (or time-travel) episode, so the screens could probably be legit in terms of what events they depict. If they really are legit (and edited) screens from the first two episodes remains to be seen.
Hence this rage-enducing theory others have made:
Spoiler:
Twilight goes back in time to when Luna was NMM. NMM defeats Celestia, but Mary Sue Sparkle arrives just in time to use the elements of harmony of the past and seals away NMM. Thus, sealing her fate as the most forced character in the show's history.
Spoiler:
Weeeell, that theory crossed my mind too, and when you think about the big picture, it would actually be quite interesting if it indeed were time-travel. Spike 
I'm a sucker for time-travel and paradoxes, so it might just be me, but if Twilight were to really go back in time it would put a twist on the entire tale of Nightmare Moon and the events in Twilight's life.

1) Twilight somehow gets to the moment where Luna turned into NMM.
2) NMM then really defeats Celestia instead of being sealed into the Moon by her.
3) Twilight, who is the Element of Magic, uses the Elements making her the one who sealed NMM, not Celestia.
4) Twilight then may or may not share some knowledge of the future events with Celestia
5) Regardless of that, Celestia maybe recognized her the day of her entrance test into the School for Gifted Unicorns and connected the dots.
6) She decided to make Twilight her personal protégé to be able to guide her down the path she believed would lead her to becoming the Element of Magic and an alicorn, eventually leading her back to that fateful night in the past.

She couldn't have of course known what exactly to do unless Twilight had shared her knowledge of future events, but time has its way of "repairing" itself. Though if she did share it, it could explain how Celestia knew about a lot of stuff and why she, in some cases where it made no sense, let Twilight deal with the situation instead of dealing with it herself.

Of course there are numerous plot holes here.
How would Twilight be able to control all of the Elements? Not to mention that if she did it would only further unbalance the characters of Mane 6, and so soon after her ascencion to alicornhood no less. That would definitely be a bad thing
Why wouldn't Luna remember Twilight being there?
If Twilight wouldn't tell past-Celestia anything there'd be many more, at best, conflicting things.
And of course we already had an episode dealing with time-travel where the olny spell lasted a few seconds at most and was usable only once, so...

I wouldn't call all that downright rage-inducing if handled well. It would put a new perspective on things. Also, it could mean that major events in Twilight's life, including the Elements and ascenion to Princesshod were orchestrated by herself, not by Celestia. It's still kinda creepy, but not as creepy as if Celestia were the puppet-master.

That's all from me, now you can rage. Twilight crazy 
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Eh, I'm still iffy on Twilicorn. You could see it coming, but they should have waited for the show's finale.
Spoiler:
On that we can agree. If it's gonna be a time-travel episode it woud've worked even without Twi being an alicorn and fans would be much more tolerant (appreciative even) of it, even though I doubt everyone would like it.
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Re: Season 4 Confirmed

Post by Katarn on Wed Nov 13, 2013 10:15 am

Related question. When will be first two episodes on air? Was it 30 November?
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Re: Season 4 Confirmed

Post by Formis_Fluttergod on Wed Nov 13, 2013 10:31 am

Katarn wrote:Related question. When will be first two episodes on air? Was it 30 November?
November 23 if I remember right. The Doctor Who 50th anniversary airs the same day so I should remember. Spike 
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Re: Season 4 Confirmed

Post by CamoBadger on Wed Nov 13, 2013 1:18 pm

Scienza wrote:
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Eh, I'm still iffy on Twilicorn. You could see it coming, but they should have waited for the show's finale.

Also, everything's weird with the elements now. Horse Women established that apparently Magic's the only important one. Still, doesn't Twi-Twi need the rest of the gang?

Mayhaps we'll see Metal Gear Twilight again? And hopefully NMM not being a generically mean "I'm so edgy AHAHAHAHAHA" villain.
Spoiler:

I want to believe she needs them, but then again, Celestia suggested that only her and Luna used the Elements on Discord. And with Twilot being Hasbro's chosen one, I wouldn't doubt that they'd allow her to use them all herself.

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Re: Season 4 Confirmed

Post by Scienza on Wed Nov 13, 2013 1:46 pm

CamoBadger wrote:
Scienza wrote:
Spoiler:

Eh, I'm still iffy on Twilicorn. You could see it coming, but they should have waited for the show's finale.

Also, everything's weird with the elements now. Horse Women established that apparently Magic's the only important one. Still, doesn't Twi-Twi need the rest of the gang?

Mayhaps we'll see Metal Gear Twilight again? And hopefully NMM not being a generically mean "I'm so edgy AHAHAHAHAHA" villain.
Spoiler:

I want to believe she needs them, but then again, Celestia suggested that only her and Luna used the Elements on Discord. And with Twilot being Hasbro's chosen one, I wouldn't doubt that they'd allow her to use them all herself.
Spoiler:
A headcanon I've always kinda held is that there were other Element bearers (Sombra, perhaps?) who were forced to choose sides between Celestia and NMM and were killed in the ensuing struggle. Of course, this episode is probably going to disprove my pitiful ideas, but for the moment I think the standard is that she needs her harem. It'd be kinda hard for Purplesmart to be friends with herself.

Maybe she could best friends with her wings?
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Re: Season 4 Confirmed

Post by Formis_Fluttergod on Wed Nov 13, 2013 5:44 pm

CamoBadger wrote:
Scienza wrote:
Spoiler:

Eh, I'm still iffy on Twilicorn. You could see it coming, but they should have waited for the show's finale.

Also, everything's weird with the elements now. Horse Women established that apparently Magic's the only important one. Still, doesn't Twi-Twi need the rest of the gang?

Mayhaps we'll see Metal Gear Twilight again? And hopefully NMM not being a generically mean "I'm so edgy AHAHAHAHAHA" villain.
Spoiler:

I want to believe she needs them, but then again, Celestia suggested that only her and Luna used the Elements on Discord. And with Twilot being Hasbro's chosen one, I wouldn't doubt that they'd allow her to use them all herself.
Spoiler:
I hope not, that'd just be lazy. If they're really gonna pull the time-travel off and let her use the Elements they better have a reasonable explanation, something better than "Magic. *snort* *snort*" or "She's an alicorn princess.".
If the Elements worked even through time, so she wouldn't be actually using them alone... Dunno, I've got nothing.
As much as I like that infinite time-loop paradox I don't want just another deus ex machina.
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Re: Season 4 Confirmed

Post by Formis_Fluttergod on Thu Nov 14, 2013 4:53 pm

30 Seconds of Season 4 Premiere
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I have kinda mixed feelings about this.
Firstly, I wonder what is Twilight  doing in Canterlot. I mean, not that she couldn't be there at all, I just hope that she's just visiting or something and it's not a long-term thing.
I'm glad they seem to have really kept her personality intact (Which also means I still stand by my point that she's not the best candidate for a princess.), but I sure hope not everyone will treat her like these Canterlotians do, it would get extremely annoying really quickly.How 
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