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Post by Icy Shake on Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:31 pm

O. Hinds wrote:
Icy Shake wrote:Incorporating, say, Shining Armor would require rethinking Twilight, her mother, the fate of Canterlot, et cetera
Aye; this is one of the parts of PH that I try very hard to ignore.

Personally, I may be in denial: By my recollection, Shining Armor has not himself appeared or been mentioned, at the very least not explicitly as Twilight's brother, so Cadence's child could have been fathered by someone else, or he might have no special connection to her (and perhaps a weaker shield), and that's what I choose to believe for now. I believe that she might have shown up in a memory as a winged unicorn, but I figure there's some explanation that has not, or has not yet, been made why she is not an alicorn, or is older than Luna.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by SilentCarto on Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:13 pm

Meh, close enough.


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Welcome to the Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion Thread!
This is the place to discuss Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons, a Fallout/MLP:FiM crossover fic by Somber. Story discussion is on the left, group therapy to the right. Please try to schedule your emotional breakdowns when they don't conflict with anyone else's.

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We have just a few simple rules here.

  1. Don't put down Somber.
  2. Project Horizons is a grimdark fic which deals with adult topics, so we might discuss subjects that some readers may find uncomfortable. Be mature about it.
  3. If Somber or a member of the editing team says to end a discussion, please do so.
  4. Spoilers abound. If you're not current on the fic, we recommend that you catch up before you read on.
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Somber: The author of Project Horizons, creator of Blackjack, maker of awesomeness, is a small gray mare who lives in the head of a guy named David. Ignore her claims of suckage.
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Kkat: The author of the original Fallout: Equestria. Not a participant in this discussion (yet), but you should be aware of her anyway. If you haven't read FOE, why are you even here? Go! Read!

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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by SilentCarto on Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:18 am

Ever have one of those moments where you forget FOE and/or PH are fanfic? I finished the last Wheel of Time book today, and I just found myself thinking, "Which character was it whose unofficial motto was 'Do better'? Was that Perrin? Rand?

--oh. Right. Blackjack." Derpy Hooves
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Ketchup on Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:30 am

I consider FO:E stories separate from each other and the show, though PH and the original are the exception to the former. There shouldn't be a limit for what is written based on something produced after it is planned.

The inclusion of Shining Armor would totally goof things up, to put it lightly.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Stringtheory on Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:44 am

SilentCarto wrote:Ever have one of those moments where you forget FOE and/or PH are fanfic? I finished the last Wheel of Time book today, and I just found myself thinking, "Which character was it whose unofficial motto was 'Do better'? Was that Perrin? Rand?

--oh. Right. Blackjack." Derpy Hooves
it annoys me to no end to hear people like my mother call Fanfiction or epics like Homestuck 'not real literature' (actually she calls it 'worthless' usually when I'm procrastinating)
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Cptadder on Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:51 am

SilentCarto wrote:Ever have one of those moments where you forget FOE and/or PH are fanfic? I finished the last Wheel of Time book today, and I just found myself thinking, "Which character was it whose unofficial motto was 'Do better'? Was that Perrin? Rand?

--oh. Right. Blackjack." Derpy Hooves
Rand's motto can be considered what we got in Gathering storm since it's Lews Therins
"Why do we live over and over again?"
"Because... maybe this time we can do things better"

Rough quote I have the audiobooks not the hard copies here. Gathering storm chapter 50 per google.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Caoimhe on Wed Jan 23, 2013 1:23 am

^^ You're one post away from 1000, Cap'n! Make it count!

Ketchup wrote:I consider FO:E stories separate from each other and the show, though PH and the original are the exception to the former. There shouldn't be a limit for what is written based on something produced after it is planned.

The inclusion of Shining Armor would totally goof things up, to put it lightly.

At this point, I consider PH to be the only canon and the show fanfiction of it. I want PH to go on forever. :(

I find myself finding PH related references in the show and have to remind myself that the two are unrelated. AGH
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Overlong Analysis Cobalt on Wed Jan 23, 2013 1:30 am

I know someone who studies literature for a living (academia FTW!), and she compares Homestuck to James Joyce. I have read neither, but since she's one of the smartest people I've ever met, I'm willing to accept her word on the matter.

@Caoimhe
Infiniph... that should be a word! Honestly, though, I'm sorta in the same boat; the show is its own canon, to be sure, but it's not one I pay as much attention to, if that makes sense.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Meleagridis on Wed Jan 23, 2013 2:56 am

HOY.
Prior to his reveal in PH, what was everyone's Discord headcanon? What did you figure happened to the stoned embodiment of chaos?

Icy Shake wrote:
I'm sure that nobody has said anything against using new things in the show in general.
Someone asked why, and I figured I knew.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by OneMoreDaySK on Wed Jan 23, 2013 9:12 am

@Meleagridis Thought that someone broke the statue and killed him.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Ketchup on Wed Jan 23, 2013 9:21 am

OneMoreDaySK wrote:@Meleagridis Thought that someone broke the statue and killed him.
Discord was released by Blackjack if I remember it correctly. I don't remember him dying.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Stringtheory on Wed Jan 23, 2013 9:26 am

Ketchup wrote:
OneMoreDaySK wrote:@Meleagridis Thought that someone broke the statue and killed him.
Discord was released by Blackjack if I remember it correctly. I don't remember him dying.
We know, Meleagridis is asking what we thought happened to Discord in FO:E/PH before PH brought him in
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Ketchup on Wed Jan 23, 2013 9:27 am

stringtheory wrote:
Ketchup wrote:
OneMoreDaySK wrote:@Meleagridis Thought that someone broke the statue and killed him.
Discord was released by Blackjack if I remember it correctly. I don't remember him dying.
We know, Meleagridis is asking what we thought happened to Discord in FO:E/PH before PH brought him in
I just figured he didn't exist. Derpy Hooves
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Derpmind on Wed Jan 23, 2013 10:55 am

Meleagridis wrote:HOY.
Prior to his reveal in PH, what was everyone's Discord headcanon? What did you figure happened to the stoned embodiment of chaos?
In Somber's head.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Icy Shake on Wed Jan 23, 2013 11:07 am

I figured he was out of the picture, still a statue. Nothing too specific, but maybe deep underground with the salt mine plan or on the mood to keep him away from anything chaotic.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by skibadaa on Wed Jan 23, 2013 11:13 am

Meleagridis wrote:HOY.
Prior to his reveal in PH, what was everyone's Discord headcanon? What did you figure happened to the stoned embodiment of chaos?

I totally forgot he even existed until the reveal in PH, then I was like:

"ZOMFG!! Rainbow MAKES SO MUCH SENSE!!! Well played somber, well played Dash clapping"
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by swicked on Wed Jan 23, 2013 8:03 pm

I finally read the latest chapter!
I was laughing for pretty much the whole first half, too.

Per the norm, written a review. Also per the norm, made a production out of it.

Will post when it's all good and formatted, which may be tomorrow.

Not that I expect Somber is still watching this thread for replies, since wave's is typically the last one he gets :P

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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by SilentCarto on Wed Jan 23, 2013 8:58 pm

Meleagridis wrote:HOY.
Prior to his reveal in PH, what was everyone's Discord headcanon? What did you figure happened to the stoned embodiment of chaos?
I had assumed he was still in Canterlot, first isolated by Pink Cloud, then entombed in the ruins at the bottom of the mountain.

skibadaa wrote:I totally forgot he even existed until the reveal in PH, then I was like:

"ZOMFG!! Rainbow MAKES SO MUCH SENSE!!! Well played somber, well played Dash clapping"
Yeah, I/we started getting some inklings when the Choir described Flux as "ichor of the meddler", then BJ's star dream referred to "trickster spirits" who "came to mold and meddle and inspire". I had assumed "the meddler" referred to Twilight, who meddled in Things Ponies Were Not Meant To Know, but then someone pointed out that "ichor" was the word for the fluid that flowed in the Greek gods' veins...

It still wasn't even close to certain, but because of that, when Discord appeared it was a bit less "OMG, WHAT?" and more "OMG, that theory was right!"
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Admiral Stoic Rum on Wed Jan 23, 2013 10:13 pm

everyone loves a good sprinkling of clues to lead up to a reveal, it's never out of left field
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Luminous Lead on Wed Jan 23, 2013 11:04 pm

SilentCarto wrote:Yeah, I/we started getting some inklings when the Choir described Flux as "ichor of the meddler", then BJ's star dream referred to "trickster spirits" who "came to mold and meddle and inspire". I had assumed "the meddler" referred to Twilight, who meddled in Things Ponies Were Not Meant To Know, but then someone pointed out that "ichor" was the word for the fluid that flowed in the Greek gods' veins...

I always think of ichor as being zombie blood, but I figured Discord was involved after that Choir chapter. I didn't really think about him before that though.

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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Ketchup on Wed Jan 23, 2013 11:09 pm

Luminous Lead wrote:
SilentCarto wrote:Yeah, I/we started getting some inklings when the Choir described Flux as "ichor of the meddler", then BJ's star dream referred to "trickster spirits" who "came to mold and meddle and inspire". I had assumed "the meddler" referred to Twilight, who meddled in Things Ponies Were Not Meant To Know, but then someone pointed out that "ichor" was the word for the fluid that flowed in the Greek gods' veins...

I always think of ichor as being zombie blood, but I figured Discord was involved after that Choir chapter. I didn't really think about him before that though.
I always pictured it simply as black blood. A hairy giant scorpion attacked my dwarves in Dwarf Fortress and bled ichor after the dwarves finally killed the damn thing after losing 3/4 of the fortress' population.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by PantheraLeo on Thu Jan 24, 2013 6:04 pm

Ad ichor
In Greek mythology, Ichor (pron.: /ˈaɪkər/ or /ˈɪkər/; Ancient Greek: ἰχώρ) is the ethereal golden fluid that is the blood of the gods and/or immortals.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ichor
I would go by that definition. And it really doeas not need to be gold ...
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Post by Overlong Analysis Cobalt on Thu Jan 24, 2013 6:13 pm

@Ichor (And PantheraLeo!)
Nice, thanks for the research. And welcome to the forums! :)

For my part, I generally picture it as black or dark green (as many do), likely due to HP Lovecraft's use of the term in that context; it's also used in medicine for a word for nasty discharge coming from wounds and the like.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Kippershy on Thu Jan 24, 2013 6:15 pm

NEW RECRUIT wrote:Ad ichor
In Greek mythology, Ichor (pron.: /ˈaɪkər/ or /ˈɪkər/; Ancient Greek: ἰχώρ) is the ethereal golden fluid that is the blood of the gods and/or immortals.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ichor
I would go by that definition. And it really doeas not need to be gold ...


...Welcome, welcome.
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Post by Ketchup on Thu Jan 24, 2013 6:22 pm

Welcome PantheraLeo.
That username is familiar.
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Post by PantheraLeo on Thu Jan 24, 2013 6:41 pm

It is kinda generic name, lot of people goes by PantheraLeo on the internet.

And thanks everyone, it is good to be here ;)
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Post by Moodyman90 on Thu Jan 24, 2013 6:43 pm

I trust you're gonna fit in just fine here Leo, but at the same time I must warn you we're a little crazy here.
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Post by Kippershy on Thu Jan 24, 2013 6:46 pm

Moodyman90 wrote:I trust you're gonna fit in just fine here Leo, but at the same time I must warn you Kipper's a little crazy <s>here</s>.
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Post by PantheraLeo on Thu Jan 24, 2013 6:49 pm

Sanity is overrated anyway
But thanks for heads up
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by tylertoon2 on Thu Jan 24, 2013 6:54 pm

PantheraLeo wrote:Sanity is overrated anyway
But thanks for heads up

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