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Re: League of Legends

Post by Overlong Analysis Cobalt on Fri Sep 06, 2013 10:54 pm

Oh! Oh! I can do that. Well, Statikk Shiv is actually VERY good on him because of his passive crit chance - the proc from it can crit, and he gets it to crit more often. It also helps him wave clear obscenely fast, and split pushing is one of the things you often do with Tryndamere. Along the same lines, Blade of the Ruined King is a good option for lifesteal because of its strong dueling potential - again, if you're split pushing, you need to be able to drag 2 people to deal with you, which means you need to win 1v1s, against some pretty strong and often tanky targets. Infinity edge is good on him, again because of the passive crit chance. Tenacity, IMO, is fantastic - you can get merc treads, or a zephyr; both are nice. Beyond that... more offensive items, generally, but don't be afraid to go for some defensive stats. Maw can work reasonably well with him, mercscim is nice if you need the QSS ability, and Randuin's is pretty much good on everyone if you can use it (I suppose AP casters generally go hourglass instead, but that item's amazing).
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Post by Ironmonger on Fri Sep 06, 2013 11:37 pm

Thanks, I'll definitely keep this in mind. I decided to get Tristana instead of Tryndamere just before I posted, because it's smarter to use a champion that I have some idea about how to use, than to use one about which I have no idea. Currently, I'm messing around with Veigar; he was cheap to buy and he looks awesome on the battlefield. I just can't seem to survive as him. :P

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Post by Aonee on Fri Sep 06, 2013 11:43 pm

Iron, you know you could've gotten Tristana for free, right? And a skin for her as well.
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Post by Ironmonger on Fri Sep 06, 2013 11:45 pm

Well, if I knew that, I wouldn't have bought her. How Regardless, it must have been something that I didn't spot.

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Post by Aonee on Fri Sep 06, 2013 11:54 pm

You can actually refund the IP cost of Tristana through the store, then go to Riot's Facebook page I think and like it to get her free.
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Post by Ironmonger on Sat Sep 07, 2013 12:06 am

Thanks, and I didn't mean to sound irritated if I did. Anyway, I looked it up and it's something about logging into the LoL forum, then liking their page.

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Post by Aonee on Sat Sep 07, 2013 12:11 am

Oh no, I'd be peeved too if I did something like that.
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Post by Ironmonger on Sat Sep 07, 2013 12:18 am

Haha, I got it! Thanks a bunch, Aonee. You're a big help.

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Post by Aonee on Sat Sep 07, 2013 12:18 am

No problem, it's what I'm here for.
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Post by Overlong Analysis Cobalt on Sat Sep 07, 2013 12:20 am

Veigar! Between Trist and Veigar, you are picking the two champions I learned this game on. (It was not a good idea to learn on these two, for the record =P) Anyway! He is EXCEPTIONALLY short ranged, has a very difficult to lane stun (which is nonetheless amazingly powerful - candidate for strongest ability in the game, EASILY stronger than a lot of peoples' ults), gets wrecked by bruisers with tenacity, and generally has a bad time if he can't explode someone.

Due to his short range, he has to be up close in fights. Due to mobility creep, this makes him constantly in danger of getting engaged on. His full combo (which you don't always need if you're doing well and are comboing a squishy) requires him to use his stun cage to land his Dark Matter, which leaves him even more defenseless. Basically, he's a champion that a divesquad can make really short work of. Another problem I've had with him is that his Dark Matter, while REALLY strong, is a pain to land reliably, and has a long cooldown. Basically, he's all about single-target burst, and it's not always enough to reliably delete one person from the game when you can't do much more except die yourself in a teamfight. Also, like I said, tenacity lets you get him by the stun cage and escape before dark matter lands... which is brutal. People with flash-like ability also can dodge the cage if it's not right on top of them (Zed...) and then do terrible things to his little defenseless Yordle body. His ult is also fairly slow moving, and can thus be dodged by people going untargettable and using spell shields. I like him still, but he's very, very hard to not die with. Getting an hourglass helps, of course.

Them's my thoughts on Veigar.
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Re: League of Legends

Post by Ironmonger on Mon Sep 09, 2013 12:24 am

LoLz:

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Re: League of Legends

Post by RoboRed on Mon Sep 09, 2013 10:52 pm



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Post by Aonee on Mon Sep 09, 2013 11:15 pm

That's pretty damn awesome.
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Post by RoboRed on Tue Sep 10, 2013 2:06 am

i wuv weona.

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Re: League of Legends

Post by Ironmonger on Tue Sep 10, 2013 2:17 am

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Post by Ironmonger on Tue Sep 10, 2013 6:35 pm

I had my most amusing match yet; three AD Carries, a Leona, and some other champ I don't remember vs bots. Clearly a very squishy setup, but it worked very well.

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Re: League of Legends

Post by Aonee on Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:15 pm

Anything, and I mean anything, works against bots.  I bet you could run 5-man jungle and still get it to work. Speaking of non-meta things, I saw a Kayle bot as an adc the other day.  That was weird.
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Post by Ironmonger on Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:43 pm

Honestly, I fight people better than I do bots. I just don't do it nearly as often as I do bots.

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Re: League of Legends

Post by MrMagma on Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:52 pm

So, recently, I've been playing a lot of support, and I'm getting better K/D/A's and so on when I play support, and the only other thing that comes close is when I jungle, and maybe if I get a good ADC game. My average K/D/A with Sona, for example, over my past 3 games with her is 3/2.3/20, and all three of those games have been victories.
Not sure if I'm bad at other roles, good at support, or getting really lucky. *shrug*
Meh, whatever. Just glad that I'm finally 'good' at something in League. Spike

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Post by Moodyman90 on Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:05 pm

Ya'll doing League of Legends tonight? Just checking into make sure since game time it less than an hour away.
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Post by Ironmonger on Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:21 pm

I'll be joining shortly, I'm just waiting because I share a computer.

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Post by Tytan on Tue Sep 10, 2013 11:12 pm

Relevant:
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Post by Overlong Analysis Cobalt on Wed Sep 11, 2013 5:04 am

I just had a game of ranked in which I finally got to play Zed.

It was not fair, at all. Enemy was Veigar. Not only was he a... I don't wanna say bad Veigar, but he couldn't land his full combo on me even BEFORE I had merc treads... but Zed's a pretty good counter to Veigar, what with being all AD, slippery, bursty, capable of dodging Veigar's ult with his own, and a decent harasser. The first few minutes were the best, because the other team actually was semi-decent, stealing our Cho's red, doing well in toplane and camping bot lane. Credit to Renekton in top for not getting shut down completely (and for tanking four enemies while he and I kited them around their own base before turning and slaughtering them), bot for turning it around well (which helped Cho and I take an early dragon), and Cho for probably doing some great ganks in other lanes (he came to my lane once and got an assist by landing an autoattack on Veigar once, I think; mine was a pretty easy lane).
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Post by Ironmonger on Thu Sep 12, 2013 1:11 am

Malphite's German voice is impressive.

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Post by Ironmonger on Fri Sep 13, 2013 7:38 pm

I just learned that I freakin' murder people in ARAM whenever I use Twitch. I got a 9/2/21 KDA ratio, and got more gold than anyone else in the game.

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Post by Overlong Analysis Cobalt on Sat Sep 14, 2013 10:12 pm

Another Jax game, another feeding Jax. I even beat my Silver I opponent in lane, hard, despite him getting jungler support. Win some, lose some.
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Post by Ironmonger on Sat Sep 14, 2013 10:27 pm

That's some crap, Cobalt. My games today went kinda interesting. I unlocked Blitzcrank, and I got some good builds for him, but I ended up with not-so-great teammates. I went bot with Ezreal, and between he and myself we scored five kills on the enemy Miss Fortune AI and her laning partner. It was fun to drag her into the turret. I turn my back for barely thirty seconds, and I then find out that the score went from 5/0 to 5/3 in that span of time. We still won, though, and despite my constant dying I still did better than the others.

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Post by Overlong Analysis Cobalt on Sun Sep 15, 2013 2:30 am

Fun lane: Blitzcrank/Vayne. It relies completely on landing good Blitz hooks, which is really more up to the enemy than to the Blitz during the laning phase (they're not hard to dodge, easy to block, and if you get counter-picked as Blitz [AKA Leona or Alistar] you end up useless), but grab from bush->knockup->condemn into wall = kill, almost always.

Anyway, most recent game was a fun little journey. Thresh and I (playing Cait) did well botlane, though some of the kills I got were frankly missplays on the enemy team and Thresh made some questionable plays. Our TF got stomped hard by their Orianna, though, and their J4 got fed from ganking him. Our jungler, who was unranked, only ganked his duo partner, a rude Nasus. Anyway, midway through the game, Nasus comes down from his infini-farm session to join a teamfight in progress and gets a quadrakill. His Q had just under 500 bonus damage on it.

The game continued after that, but it was basically over. I got to go full-dmg ADC for my first five items (inf edge, berserker greaves, bloodthirster, phantom dancer, last whisper), and I assume Nasus' Q got even more overpowered. We won.

Never let a Nasus free-farm, guys. Never do it. =P
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Post by Ironmonger on Sun Sep 15, 2013 11:48 am

Yeah, I've played Alistar, so I know what to watch out for. I never rocket-grab him unless I'm under turret, because I'll definitely need the extra help.

Anyway, I just had one of my best matches yet, although it was another bot game, and I was playing Morgana. I'm trying to gather enough IP to buy some good runes before I do any more PvP outside of ARAM.

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Post by Aonee on Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:13 pm

Actually, you want to avoid buying runes until you're at least level twenty. That way you dinner have to rebuy all of them when you hit it. Nevermind, just checked your profile. For your two pages, here's what I would suggest:
A generic page, that can work well on anyone:


  • 3x Move Speed Quints

  • 9x Hybrid Penetration Marks

  • 9x Armor Seals

  • 9x Magic Resist Glyphs.

And an AD page, since you like playing ad champs:


  • 1xAD Quint, 1xLifesteal Quint, and then the third can be either Lifesteal or AD, depending on your preference.

  • 9x AD Marks

  • 9x Armor Seals

  • 9x Magic Resist Glyphs.
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