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Re: Gun/Military Thread

Post by Frost on Sat Mar 29, 2014 10:10 pm

It's really just a personal preference thing--I tend to enjoy shooting shotguns and carbines more than long-range rifles, and I've been wanting to get a hold of a Kel-Tec for a while. 

Goddamnit, I really need to get to bed.
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Post by Ironmonger on Tue Apr 01, 2014 11:33 pm

I was going through a history blog when I came across a gun that I had seen before, but never paid much mind. I present to you, the M1895 Colt-Browning MG. It's a machine gun that's relatively lightweight, and possibly represents the first use of a machine gun as tactical fire support for assaulting troops.

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Post by StoneSlinger88 on Wed Apr 02, 2014 5:46 pm

Today I learned clay pidgeons need to be spaced farther apart than what I had them, because a 30-06 will routinely vaporize the one it hits and break any sitting next to it.
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Post by StoneSlinger88 on Tue Apr 08, 2014 6:23 pm

Found SKS-M. Bought SKS-M.

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What is a SKS-M?

It's a Chinese Norinco SKS with a 16 inch barrel, and can accept AK-style magazines like the earlier SKS-D model. It has a shorter gas system, a larger gas port hole, no bayonet, and the bolt does not hold open (similar to the AK-47).

The one I found has a thumbhole laminate stock, which I found very comfortable, and the whole rifle is in excellent condition. A nice large-caliber plinker for the range.

It looks something like this:
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Re: Gun/Military Thread

Post by Harmony Ltd. on Sat Apr 26, 2014 7:50 pm

I just had an... interesting idea, inspired, of course, by videogames:

Handgun ammunitions filled with high-explosives.

Probably not enough penetration to pass through bulletproof armor, but enough bang to seriously shock and hopefully put KO any opponent even through proximity detonations.

I suppose it'd only work with calibers like .45 and superior, though.


Imagine an SMG using such ammos...



And for added deviousness, make them shaped-charges...  Twilight crazy 
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Post by Admiral Stoic Rum on Mon Apr 28, 2014 12:06 am

little semtex goes a long way...
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Post by StoneSlinger88 on Tue May 13, 2014 10:09 pm

Well, it's a compromise. Russian rifle, made in America. A New England Westinghouse Mosin Nagant.

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Re: Gun/Military Thread

Post by Frost on Sun Aug 31, 2014 9:00 pm

As an alternative to clogging up the chat thread with military-based discussion and humor, I shall cast my necromantic power upon this thread.

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Post by Harmony Ltd. on Fri Oct 03, 2014 4:10 am

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Re: Gun/Military Thread

Post by Vinylshadow on Fri Oct 03, 2014 3:12 pm

Harmony Ltd. wrote:I just had an... interesting idea, inspired, of course, by videogames:

Handgun ammunitions filled with high-explosives.

Probably not enough penetration to pass through bulletproof armor, but enough bang to seriously shock and hopefully put KO any opponent even through proximity detonations.

I suppose it'd only work with calibers like .45 and superior, though.

Imagine an SMG using such ammos...

And for added deviousness, make them shaped-charges...   Twilight crazy 

Wouldn't there be a chance for the force of firing the gun to cause the round to explode in the chamber though?

I'd say leave the explosives to the launchers designed to use them, like the Milkor MGL, M203 or M79
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Re: Gun/Military Thread

Post by Ironmonger on Fri Oct 03, 2014 4:13 pm

Vinylshadow wrote:
Wouldn't there be a chance for the force of firing the gun to cause the round to explode in the chamber though?

That depends on the design of the ammunition and the nature of the explosive compound. Even if the explosive detonated prematurely, I doubt the force of the blast would cause a catastrophic failure of the receiver.

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Post by Vinylshadow on Fri Oct 03, 2014 5:26 pm

I wonder what kind of weapon it (explosive rounds) would work best with

Pistols?
Revolvers?
SMGs?
Automatic (Assault?) Rifles?

Doubt you'd be firing building-leveling explosives from a handgun (Although Rico's Signature Gun from Just Cause 2 has an underslung 30mm Grenade Launcher...)

I know for a fact I wouldn't be good with a pistol, my hands shake something fierce
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Re: Gun/Military Thread

Post by Ironmonger on Fri Oct 03, 2014 5:58 pm

Vinylshadow wrote:I wonder what kind of weapon it (explosive rounds) would work best with

Pistols?
Revolvers?
SMGs?
Automatic (Assault?) Rifles?

Doubt you'd be firing building-leveling explosives from a handgun (Although Rico's Signature Gun from Just Cause 2 has an underslung 30mm Grenade Launcher...)

I know for a fact I wouldn't be good with a pistol, my hands shake something fierce

The best infantry-weapon candidate for small HE rounds would be 12 Gauge shotguns due to their large bore, and thus large shell size, and their low chamber-pressures. However, since the original topic is about HE handgun rounds, the best candidate would probably be a 12.7 mm (.50 cal) SMG, if only because it's the largest handgun caliber that the established industry has good experience with.

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Re: Gun/Military Thread

Post by Frost on Fri Oct 03, 2014 6:30 pm

There already are explosive rounds for a 12 gauge-- the FRAG-12 rounds are more a novelty than anything, but they work. 

Concerning chamber detonation--no, I don't see that being a problem. If a Bradley's 25mm or an Abrams' 105mm can go off without setting off the comparatively massive amount of explosive in the round, I don't see much of a problem with smaller rounds. The problem with that then is cost--you've got a pretty pathetic-sized explosion that, while lethal against soft targets, is going to be less effective against hard targets and, being fired from small arms, will still need to be carried en masse and won't be any more likely to actually hit the target--and every single one of those rounds is going to cost at least several dollars, compared to a matter of cents for a ball round. Doesn't sound like much, then you consider that the basic M4 combat load is 210 rounds. The SAW load, depending on unit SOP, is anywhere from 600 to over 1,000. Multiply that by the millions, even billions of rounds the military goes through--and that's just the 5.56 weapons.
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Re: Gun/Military Thread

Post by Vinylshadow on Fri Oct 03, 2014 6:53 pm

Every armor has a weak point - joints, extremities, the neck

Cover up one weakness, you expose another

"She weighs one hundred fifty kilograms and fires two hundred dollar, custom-tooled cartridges at ten thousand rounds per minute.
It costs four hundred thousand dollars to fire this weapon...for twelve seconds."


War is expensive. What a shame we've evolved past flintlock rifles that slung highly-inaccurate iron balls.

Cannons became tanks, cannonballs became shells...

Boy, we sure love explosions, don't we?
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Re: Gun/Military Thread

Post by Frost on Fri Oct 03, 2014 7:28 pm

Problem with "attacking the weakpoint"? That kind of accuracy is challenging for trained shooters in a controlled environment at relatively close range. At 300-400 meters, trying to hit a specific part of your moving, cover-utilizing, fire-returning enemy amidst the clouds of dust and debris that are being kicked up by all your explosive rounds' impacts? Good fuckin' luck.
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Re: Gun/Military Thread

Post by Vinylshadow on Fri Oct 03, 2014 7:41 pm

I've sat here for about ten minutes trying to come up with a reply, yet none of 'em sound good

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Re: Gun/Military Thread

Post by Frost on Fri Oct 03, 2014 7:48 pm

It's probably because one of is actually military-trained and the other damn near boasts about how he would be a poor soldier and has never shot a gun. 

Which calls into question who you bothered posting here.
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Post by Silver136 on Fri Oct 03, 2014 10:18 pm

It's hard enough getting a shot off just playing a game like paintball. I'm not in the army, don't plan on joining, but I love guns and I've shot plenty. Shooting at 300 meters, especially without some sort of optic, is insane for hitting a specific weak point. With something like an explosive round or rocket? Well, you'd have to lead the shot and possibly compensate for drop perfectly to hit your desired weak point. I pride myself on my marksmanship and even I don't think I could do that without a ton of tries or using a weapon I'm extremely comfortable with.
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Re: Gun/Military Thread

Post by Frost on Fri Oct 03, 2014 11:20 pm

You give me a 240B or L and maybe a decent MGO and I'll hit that shit every day of the fucking week, but I doubt automatic weapons are quite in the spirit of things.
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Post by Silver136 on Sat Oct 04, 2014 8:36 am

Well, I've never actually used any launchers or explosives. It's pretty hard to do that in a small town with no range for it. Given, I live by a military base, but all that stuff isn't exactly open to civilians.
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Post by Frost on Sat Oct 04, 2014 9:33 am

The M240B and L models are medium machine guns. We don't actually use grenades or launchers as much as you'd think. Given how often civilians are present on our battlefields, we don't like that uncontrolled carnage
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Post by Silver136 on Sat Oct 04, 2014 10:20 pm

Ah, duh. I was thinking of the M320 for some reason. My bad.
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Re: Gun/Military Thread

Post by Vinylshadow on Mon Oct 06, 2014 5:21 pm

M203, M320, M302, M032, M023

Guns, knives, drugs and grenades

you'd think they would come up with a better naming system by now
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Re: Gun/Military Thread

Post by Frost on Mon Oct 06, 2014 6:52 pm

Silver136 wrote:Ah, duh. I was thinking of the M320 for some reason. My bad.
You're one of the only civilians I've talked to that actually knows what that is. Most seem to think that anyone, not just training brigades and the lesser-funded Nasty Girl units, is actually still stuck with the M203.
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Post by StoneSlinger88 on Mon Oct 06, 2014 7:49 pm

Am underfunded Nasty Girl, can confirm.

Also got my hands on two Arisaka Type 99's for $100 total. Both in decent shape, one extremely early-war with the chrysanthemum intact, and one "last-ditch" with the mum ground off.
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Post by Silver136 on Tue Oct 07, 2014 6:50 am

Mister Frost wrote:
Silver136 wrote:Ah, duh. I was thinking of the M320 for some reason. My bad.
You're one of the only civilians I've talked to that actually knows what that is. Most seem to think that anyone, not just training brigades and the lesser-funded Nasty Girl units, is actually still stuck with the M203.
My father was in the military and retired several years ago, so he's taught me quite a bit about this and that. He's pretty much the only reason I know so much about firearms, explosives, shooting, etc. Of course I do a bit of research myself, but there's only so much Google can teach you. Spike
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Post by Silver136 on Wed Oct 15, 2014 6:07 pm

So this threads been pretty dead, and I feel like someone from a military background could answer my question. M14 DMR, good or bad? I liked it when I shot it, iron sight was great, kick wasn't bad, and it was pretty easy to get a feel for. Recommended?
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Post by StoneSlinger88 on Wed Oct 15, 2014 7:26 pm

Never even touched one. But if you like how it feels, like how it works, is accurate and in the caliber that suits your needs, I'd say go for it.
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Post by Frost on Wed Oct 15, 2014 8:02 pm

The thread doesn't die so much as hibernate. Months of inactivity followed by flurries of intense discussion. 

Regarding the DMR, I've not had the privilege of getting my hands on one either. They mostly go to light units, rather than Mech units like mine.
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