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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Stringtheory on Mon Nov 05, 2012 8:49 am

Valikdu wrote:@Somber
Also, remember that all of us love you, look up to you and won't suddenly stop doing that if you take your time.
This. We'll keep on rolling along on our crazy train made of internets, so don't worry about us. Just take some time and figure out your life and return to writing whenever you feel ready. *HUGS*
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Post by OneMoreDaySK on Mon Nov 05, 2012 9:09 am

swicked wrote:Guys, he can't even think of anything creative for his teaching job, so unless you are suggesting he just make peace with using others' work from now on (something I think he's implying he isn't that comfortable with, even if the person he's copying from seems to be) I don't see this as all that okay a thing. He can stop PH if he really doesn't feel like writing it anymore (as opposed to feeling incapable of writing it anymore), but the issue seems bigger than that.

Somber, I've had friends who've had similar problems with antidepressant meds. It's pointless to relay the individual instances, though, because they all end in the same way... they changed meds and dosages until they found something that worked. So other than that I can't give any other advice you haven't already heard regarding dealing with having depression... like getting enough sleep and etc., since I imagine teaching must be cutting into that.

Yeah I get that he needs creativity for his own classes, but aside from more consultation with doctors I'ven't got an idea how to help. Maybe start bouncing ideas not related to the story at us to get creative again? Sorry Somber.
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Post by O. Hinds on Mon Nov 05, 2012 10:14 am

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@Somber:
I've got a friend in medical school, but I'm afraid that that's the closest thing I can think of to something helpful. Don't worry about us or PH, though, and if you can think of anything that I can do to help, let me know. Good luck.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Somber on Mon Nov 05, 2012 10:23 am

I think that my plan is to wait till after the election. That was one of my "triggers". Then I'll see about either cutting the dosage or weaning myself off it. I might be able to help if I get more exercise. Sign up to a gym or something and see if I can get a booster from something other than drugs.
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Post by swicked on Mon Nov 05, 2012 10:44 am

Somber wrote:I think that my plan is to wait till after the election. That was one of my "triggers". Then I'll see about either cutting the dosage or weaning myself off it. I might be able to help if I get more exercise. Sign up to a gym or something and see if I can get a booster from something other than drugs.

...does that actually work? Google seems to indicate so, but I always have the most intense low feeling following working out.

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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by O. Hinds on Mon Nov 05, 2012 11:07 am

swicked wrote:
Somber wrote:I think that my plan is to wait till after the election. That was one of my "triggers". Then I'll see about either cutting the dosage or weaning myself off it. I might be able to help if I get more exercise. Sign up to a gym or something and see if I can get a booster from something other than drugs.

...does that actually work? Google seems to indicate so, but I always have the most intense low feeling following working out.
I think that it varies from person to person.
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Post by SilentCarto on Mon Nov 05, 2012 11:18 am

Somber wrote:I'm having a major problem and I don't know what to do about it.

Two weeks ago I went on SSRI's for depression. I was feeling way too many triggers and too much on edge. The drugs helped. I didn't feel nearly as anxious as I had before.

I also haven't been able to write either.
I'm sorry to hear that, but as others said, I'd ask your doctor and also get a second opinion if necessary. I've heard of using two drugs together to get the same effect as a larger dose of one, or to counteract the side effects of one, but I don't know if that's applicable to your particular situation.

Regardless, internet hugs for Somber! Pinkie Pie
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Caoimhe on Mon Nov 05, 2012 11:20 am

Working out helps with EVERYTHING, seriously. Exercise is essential.

It's been said, but if your meds are affecting your work (your means of supporting yourself) and work ethic, you need to bring this up to your doctor and stress it. I'd def get a second opinion ASAP because that sounds awful.

I agree with the election, though. This shit is all bullshit and I can't fucking wait for it to be over. Combine it with seasonal mope or whatever they call it and it makes for one shitty cocktail of funk.

Be thankful you don't get PMS, too. :P
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Post by SilentCarto on Mon Nov 05, 2012 11:32 am

CUTIE MARK CRUSADERS INTERNET MEDICAL ADVISORS, YAY!
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by RoboRed on Mon Nov 05, 2012 11:34 am

I'm sorry to hear you're feeling so down, Somber. *hugs* I agree with what some of the others said about your medication. Take however long off you need from PH. Real life problems always come first.

And hey, Christmas break will be arriving soon, as well as post-election downtime like you mentioned, so maybe you'll have some time to calm down and clear your thoughts. We'll be here for you. Hope you're feeling better soon. Twilight Sparkle

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Post by Frost on Mon Nov 05, 2012 11:50 am

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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by swicked on Mon Nov 05, 2012 12:12 pm

@Caoimhe
Eh, working out seriously just makes me feel awful for hours afterward. I really only do it for the health benefits, myself... I just imagine it'd be unbearable if I actually had depression on top of it all.

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Post by Frost on Mon Nov 05, 2012 12:46 pm

swicked wrote:@Caoimhe
Eh, working out seriously just makes me feel awful for hours afterward. I really only do it for the health benefits, myself... I just imagine it'd be unbearable if I actually had depression on top of it all.

Odd, I always feel really good after working out. Of course, I don't deal with depression or anything, so I can't speak for you or for Somber
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Post by Plasticube on Mon Nov 05, 2012 12:57 pm

Take all the time you need to get better Somber :)

When I can't think of anything to draw I like to do something basic that doesn't require much thinking, like filling a piece of paper with freehand circles or a quick sketch of whatever is on my table, sometimes i get an idea while I'm doing this.

I don't know what the writing equivalent is(describe the weather maybe) but try something like that and see if it helps?


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Post by CannonFodder on Mon Nov 05, 2012 1:53 pm

Take all the time you need Somber.

The only real advice I have is to potentially talk to a psychologist as well. I don't know what is causing you to feel depressed. However if it's something in your life making you depressed or such they can help you. If it's physical then a doctor can help. My great grandma had died which devastated my grandma and the doctor pretty much shoved a ton of pills down her throat(metaphorically) and went, "yup you're fine now".

I know how you feel though. I've always tried to help people I know get through that even when I've been through it myself. The only real advice I have is to try and talk to your doctor again about possibly changing your prescription if or maybe consulting someone to help you and possibly talking to someone. It always feels good to talk to someone.

Sorry if I'm wrong, cause obviously I'm new. I'm just spitballing trying to help and giving advice from my own personal experiences with helping others through depression.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by swicked on Mon Nov 05, 2012 2:57 pm

@cannonfodder
Somber suffers from lifelong depression. It's why he goes by "Somber", actually.

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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by CamoBadger on Mon Nov 05, 2012 3:00 pm

@Somber

I'm really sorry you're feeling like that man, it sucks and I really wish I could help you out, but I don't know crap about that kind of depression.

Really all I can say is that if it helps, try making a list of 3 good things you experience everyday, and why those were good to you. It could be something as simple as the fact you're still alive, or that you ate some good food for lunch. I know it's helped a lot of people I know to do this, and it might be able to help you a little too.

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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Ironmonger on Mon Nov 05, 2012 3:02 pm

I've dealt with depression in the past but it was likely a different sort. What got me through it was a very loud, angry voice screaming at me in the back of my head, eventually got through it. Though I'm not the average person. Partly what turned me into a wannabe soldier.

As said before I can't offer any more help, but Somber we are all here for ya.

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Post by Admiral Stoic Rum on Mon Nov 05, 2012 3:14 pm



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Post by Vergil on Mon Nov 05, 2012 3:20 pm

swicked wrote:Somber, I've had friends who've had similar problems with antidepressant meds. It's pointless to relay the individual instances, though, because they all end in the same way... they changed meds and dosages until they found something that worked.

This is probably the best advice any of us can offer. That said, it is what it is Somber. Do what you believe is best for you and we will all support you.

As an aside I should mention that I'm starting to think one of Somber's other special talents is only posting within minutes of me disappearing for several hours.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by FeatherDust on Mon Nov 05, 2012 3:23 pm

Ironmonger wrote:While I'm thinking of this, does anyone think Blackjack will find a way to destroy the Eater of Souls?
I don't. I don't think you CAN destroy it. If it were possible, the stars would have done so when it started attacking them. Eldritch abominations typically aren't killable -- that is not dead which can eternal lie, and all that. The best you can do is get them off your planet, temporarily or permanently.

I think the final outcome here has been obvious since BJ saw the Star Vision; they have to boot the Eater off their planet and get it back on track towards the Outer Darkness.
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Post by CannonFodder on Mon Nov 05, 2012 3:23 pm

Admiral Stoic Rum wrote:

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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Ironmonger on Mon Nov 05, 2012 3:25 pm

FeatherDust wrote:
Ironmonger wrote:While I'm thinking of this, does anyone think Blackjack will find a way to destroy the Eater of Souls?
I don't. I don't think you CAN destroy it. If it were possible, the stars would have done so when it started attacking them. Eldritch abominations typically aren't killable -- that is not dead which can eternal lie, and all that. The best you can do is get them off your planet, temporarily or permanently.

I think the final outcome here has been obvious since BJ saw the Star Vision; they have to boot the Eater off their planet and get it back on track towards the Outer Darkness.

...I wasn't even aware it was messing with the stars..and of the star vision...well crap I need to go back and read my stuff, this forgetting things is starting become bull.

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Post by CannonFodder on Mon Nov 05, 2012 3:31 pm

Ironmonger wrote:...I wasn't even aware it was messing with the stars..and of the star vision...well crap I need to go back and read my stuff, this forgetting things is starting become bull.
Call me crazy, but I think the eater is one of blackjack's friends. Right before she came back from the dead she saw the eater's face and freaked out. If the eater was someone she didn't know it wouldn't effect her, so it's possible that the eater is someone close to her or at least knows. . . or the eater's face set a whole new record for disturbing.
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Post by CamoBadger on Mon Nov 05, 2012 3:38 pm

CannonFodder wrote:
Ironmonger wrote:...I wasn't even aware it was messing with the stars..and of the star vision...well crap I need to go back and read my stuff, this forgetting things is starting become bull.
Call me crazy, but I think the eater is one of blackjack's friends. Right before she came back from the dead she saw the eater's face and freaked out. If the eater was someone she didn't know it wouldn't effect her, so it's possible that the eater is someone close to her or at least knows. . . or the eater's face set a whole new record for disturbing.
That's a general rule with Eldrich abominations, that simply seeing them can cause madness and horror.

Or it's a parasite that requires a host and has chosen Goldenblood.

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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by FeatherDust on Mon Nov 05, 2012 3:38 pm

Somber wrote:This isn't like that. It isn't wait X days and my writing will come back. It's take it for X days and don't be able to write for X days. It's also affecting my teaching... I haven't been able to plan anything creatively.
I'm not a medical anything, so this is totally hearsay, but I have always been told by people I trust that it can take a month or more to adjust once you start taking antidepressants or similar psychoactive pharmaceuticals. I've also always been told that a few weeks in is when it's at the worst; once the drugs have hit their full effectiveness but your body (and especially brain) has not yet adjusted to all the extra chemicals.

The symptom I recall hearing about as the most disturbing was a sense of disconnection from self (there's a word for that, which I can't think of) -- like "I don't feel like me, I feel like somebody else pretending to be me". I can see how that would be intensely creepy. But supposedly it does subside after a while.

So I guess my suggestion is this: I think your idea of staying on until the election is good, and see how you're doing at that point. Maybe stick with it until Thanksgiving at least. If you're still experiencing the "gray blob", then start fiddling with it. But it may be that by the time you get to that point, you'll find your creativity coming back up on its own, and it's not necessary to change dosage or get off it. Don't get freaked out by the side effects and quit before you have a chance to get stabilized. We're a patient lot.
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Post by FeatherDust on Mon Nov 05, 2012 3:43 pm

Ironmonger wrote:...I wasn't even aware it was messing with the stars..and of the star vision...well crap I need to go back and read my stuff, this forgetting things is starting become bull.
Yeah, if I recall correctly, the Bright Star tried to hold back the darkness all by itself (forgoing friendship and cooperation), and burned itself out. Then it started trying to eat the other stars for power (I think), and they threw it out of reality into the Darkness Beyond, but it hit Equestria on the way and sucked up all the life on the planet. Another star came down and mashed into it to stop it, but it captured that one too, and the last fragments became Celestia and Luna.

If I'm getting stuff wrong let me know, but (without going back to reread) that's what I recall.
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Post by Ketchup on Mon Nov 05, 2012 4:10 pm

FeatherDust wrote:
Yeah, if I recall correctly, the Bright Star tried to hold back the darkness all by itself (forgoing friendship and cooperation), and burned itself out. Then it started trying to eat the other stars for power (I think), and they threw it out of reality into the Darkness Beyond, but it hit Equestria on the way and sucked up all the life on the planet. Another star came down and mashed into it to stop it, but it captured that one too, and the last fragments became Celestia and Luna.

If I'm getting stuff wrong let me know, but (without going back to reread) that's what I recall.
I remember nothing of the sort about the shards and such being Luna and Celestia and the Bright Star is entirely new to me. I don't know how I miss these things.
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Post by Ketchup on Mon Nov 05, 2012 4:12 pm

Somber wrote:I think that my plan is to wait till after the election. That was one of my "triggers". Then I'll see about either cutting the dosage or weaning myself off it. I might be able to help if I get more exercise. Sign up to a gym or something and see if I can get a booster from something other than drugs.
When I began running a kilometer a day(I know it isn't much, but it's what I could do without stopping then) I remember feeling happier. Of course, it might not work for everyone. Exercise also seems allows me to focus on thinking or not thinking at all if I want to, I felt in complete control of my mind.
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Post by OneMoreDaySK on Mon Nov 05, 2012 4:12 pm

@Ketchup
It was in the chapter right after she died the first time. Lemme check. It's in Chapter 34: Birthday.
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