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Post by Kippershy on Thu Sep 27, 2012 2:06 am

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Kippershy wrote:QUICK, I MUST DERAIL THIS WITH THE ONLY WAY I KNOW!
Really, Kipper? I've seen you derail better than that.

I know, if I was being serious I'd have done something a lot different.
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Post by RoboRed on Thu Sep 27, 2012 2:08 am

orly?

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If you wanted to stay anywhere near socially acceptable, you should have taken a left turn about three layers of WTF back.

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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Icy Shake on Thu Sep 27, 2012 2:09 am

Admiral Stoic Rum wrote:right so it looks like Somber is going to be approached about Blackjack being used or already has approached about BJ being used in Sweetie Chronicles, and I jut know that poor little mare is going to bescarred from being in the Hoof.

I just got finished reading the update. Can't say I thought it was one of the better chapters to date (granted, that's not saying much because I've loved Fragments so far--this chapter just reminded me of some of the frustration I had with Pink Eyes ). I look forward to there being a PH chapter, but I just have trouble imagining PH and PE taking place in the same world.

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On that note, do you think the thing influencing Eruth was the PE version of the Nightmare, or something else? It's been too long since I read PE for me to remember the entity's specifics, just that it was pretty much my least favored version of the Nightmare, and the knowledge it had seems to suggest it's something else. Some of my top guesses are maybe something from a Dr. Who crossover, or something My Little Denarians-related, or maybe something from Ordernaries. I can only think of so many multiverse stories, though, that could provide something like that.

Anyone else have thoughts on this?
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Post by Ironmonger on Thu Sep 27, 2012 2:31 am

I'm completely lost as to what everypony is talking about.

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Post by RoboRed on Thu Sep 27, 2012 2:54 am

Ironmonger wrote:I'm completely lost as to what everypony is talking about.

http://www.fimfiction.net/story/2593/The-Sweetie-Chronicles%3A-Fragments

Good story. Crossovers galore. I need to read the latest chapter.

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If you wanted to stay anywhere near socially acceptable, you should have taken a left turn about three layers of WTF back.

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Post by Ironmonger on Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:05 am

Thank ya.

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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by FeatherDust on Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:23 am

Meleagridis wrote:On an unrelated note, I need some prime examples of Large Hams in film and literature. I will give my KINGDOM, my WHOLE KINGDOM for some DECENT EXAMPLES of a LARGE HAM!
I'm not trying to be a pain but, uh, isn't the page you linked basically the prime resource for locating examples of the trope?
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Sindri on Thu Sep 27, 2012 8:00 am

Icy Shake wrote:this chapter just reminded me of some of the frustration I had with Pink Eyes ). I look forward to there being a PH chapter, but I just have trouble imagining PH and PE taking place in the same world.
I suppose I subscribe to a variation or the traditional literary agent theory or whatever it's called; In my mind Pinke Eyes is a legend, a tall tale told to foals across the Wasteland. It isn't an authoritative source on the Nightmare or historical events, and the places and groups it mentions may or may not exist, but it's a good story as long as you don't think too hard. It was probably inspired by real things, and might have even been true at first, but the story's warped and grown over the years and whoever we hear it from is an unreliable narrator.


Meanwhile the original Fo:E is a precise, careful historical account of Littlepip's journeys and the events which changed the Wasteland. Everything inside is accurate, to the best knowledge of 'Pip as the narrator and whoever copied it down into the book.

Project Horizons is something that's actually happening to Blackjack as it's told. And that's terrible.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Ametros on Thu Sep 27, 2012 8:13 am

Meleagridis wrote:On an unrelated note, I need some prime examples of Large Hams in film and literature. I will give my KINGDOM, my WHOLE KINGDOM for some DECENT EXAMPLES of a LARGE HAM!

Large Hams? Does Hugh Laurie in the Blackadder II finale count? :D
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Cptadder on Thu Sep 27, 2012 10:37 am

O. Hinds wrote:
In reverse order:
I thought that something based on "Hey, Slavs" would be pretty appropriate for that sort of reason, actually. Did you not see my earlier post? I'm a bit puzzled.

Well, we definitely have differences in headcanon here. While the war certainly did make the various groups pull closer together and the Central tribes may have often been rather loosely bound before, I have the history of the four big cultural groups being to some extent united under Roam stretching back to before ponies colonized the Equestrian peninsula (meaning that it also goes back past Nightmare Moon, Discord, and the very descent of Celestia and Luna), well over a millennium ago. (Have I not explained this lot on the forum? I thought that I had... Well, not all of it, of course, since I've thought of more since last time (I don't think that the concept of the ancient Diamond Dog empire (which ruled much of the Equestria peninsula before and to an extent contemporary with the old Northern Zebra civilization) had even occurred to me at the time, for instance).)
I read you post, and promptly forgot it, this thread is a little random for things for me to remember things long unless my memory gets jogged

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2. Sky carriages are Pegesus only but there are plenty of normal carriages that are just weight offset so Earth ponies can pull them easily. IE while a Sky carriage has a complicated hover system a normal ground carriage just has enough to offset the weight of the carriage itself when activated so your just pulling the load. They could go further and make out and out hover tanks but seeing the recharge requirements means treads and traditional tanks

Am I the only one under the impression that sky carriages are carriages with a pegasus on one end? Heck, if I'm remembering this right even a sky tank was just a tank with a pegasus strapped to the inside.
That's what I always pictured. Basically just saw it as a chariot with armor plating all around it and some guns on the outside, plus that little hover-device to help the pegasi flying with holding all of the extra weight from the weapons and armor.
There are fully functional Pegasus free flying machines but large numbers of gems +easy ability to make anti-grav devices means most flying machines are Pegasus based. You get things like Thunderheads which are built with Earth and Unicorns in mind and Raptors which are not. But both of the big boys fly without Pegasus in traces of any kind.

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That's the impression I got. Although they have a technomagic system using spark batteries that negates their weight I think. Or helps pull them along. ANYWAY it makes it go fasta, especially if it's red. Luna
Red ones go faster, any good Ork knows dis.


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O. Hinds wrote:Question to the group: Do you think that "Ohe Zebrae" (and I doubt that I'll go past the title, as filking a song in one language I don't know into another language I don't know is a wee bit above my abilities; even the title was a bit tricky) would be a good national anthem for the Zebras?
I dunno. Maybe once upon a time, but with the new structure and ever-increasing power and reverence to the Caesar, I'd think the song would be centered upon him, especially in the time after the bombs when all tribes are being forced into being subservient to him. The song, in my mind, should be something that reflects his power and prominence first and foremost, not just that of the zebra.
Eh... Sorry, but that's not really my view of what was going on. Sure, the Caesar was very important and might have featured in a few pieces of propaganda, but there was no cult of personality or dictatorship or anything like that.

My headcanon knows for a fact that the Zebra Caesar did not survive the war. Or to be more exact the one who started the war was not the one who finished it. My headcannon postulates that two to as many as five Caesars held the title. As names and glory was won in war the young headstrong one who kicked off the war was replaced by a son or daughter who then was replaced by someone who have covered themselves in glory and then either held on to the end or replaced by a son or daughter of their own.

If they were trying to kill Luna constantly I don't see MoA and the Goldenblood not sending even a single dagger back the other way.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Erumpet on Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:55 am

@Zebra Ceasar: I definitely see him as a Hitleresque leader, lots of motivational speeches, complete authority, idolized, almost worshipped, but not quite a god, just as close as a human can be. To his followers at least.
@Skycarriages: I just picture litrally a regular wooden cart, like the one Big Mac pulls int the season 2 intro, being pulled by a Pegasus through the sky. I'm sure that's incorrect but that's how I picture it.
@someonementioningborderlands2: butt stallion is best pony, and Borderlands 2 is fucking hilarious and amazing. There's just so many references and the gameplay itself is awesome, it's just great. My favorite bit so far was the Clint Eastwood spaghetti western trilogy reference. I'm still waiting for them to drop a For a Few Dollars More reference, but it's close I can feel it.
@Brokenrecord: dam you guys post hellaz pages
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Post by CamoBadger on Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:14 pm

@Caesar: I see him/them as what the Roman Empire had for their Caesar. Personal headcanon is that the first Caesar was basically zebrafied Julius Caesar (possibly because he's a personal hero of mine...but that's beside the point).
After that, Augustus (or maybe Marcus Aurelius), and then one more, the one who ordered the launch of the missiles (even if I'm not completely sure if Zebras launched first or if Equestria did...of course FO:E would probably say Zebras, but it demonizes them to no end) was Commodus.

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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by O. Hinds on Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:41 pm

CamoBadger wrote:Oh...sorry...It's still very nice though, I'd like reading more of it.
Oh, well thank you.

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Sekashi wrote:“Ah. That is another funny story. Once upon a time there was a great king who ordered all his people to go forth and make great war against a terrible enemy. And so they did. It was great and it was terrible. And when it ended the king was slain, the enemy was slain, and all the armies of the world were slain. But afterwards, some who remained remembered the great king’s order and so went out to do war with an enemy long past. And they marched left and they marched right and they raised their spears and shouted old cheers and all they came across they counted as their enemy. When they found other zebras they insisted they follow his orders as well. Any who refused were counted as the enemy. And so they fight a silly war against enemies of their own making for a great king long since fallen.”
I'm just really thinking there's a sort of fanaticism to being so devoted to their dead king's orders, and any sort of anthem of the revenant, at the very least, would reflect that.
Further, I'd expect the days leading up to D-Day to be filled with a similar fanatisism. After all, the zebra knew they were losing (at least the higher-ups did) and were fighting less for their lives and more for their very souls. The ponies had the zebra's devil on their side, an actual goddess in total command of the night, and I'd expect they'd elect someone among their own to be their champion and savior. To that end, why not their Caesar, their protector and light through these tumultuous times?
In general, the term Caesar all but implied a sort of deification... the real life Caesars always were. I just don't see the how he could be anything less.
I like Sekashi, but I don't consider a story told like that to be a necessarily entirely-accurate source. Also, I don't think that the actions of the founders of the Remnant display any particularly common fanaticism. The world's just blown up, you and your comrades are deep in hostile enemy territory… what are you going to do? Reactions are going to differ, and it doesn't seem that surprising that one group would say "Well, let's just keep fighting."

Icy Shake wrote:I just got finished reading the update. Can't say I thought it was one of the better chapters to date (granted, that's not saying much because I've loved Fragments so far--this chapter just reminded me of some of the frustration I had with Pink Eyes ). I look forward to there being a PH chapter, but I just have trouble imagining PH and PE taking place in the same world.
Yeah… I don't really care for Pink Eyes that much. It has some good points, but it just seems… messy to me. I also don't see any way, knowing what I do of the canons of PH and PE, for the two stories to take place in the same universe. That said, the Sweetie Chronicles does make things easier, since, for all we know, the FoE universe that Sweetie visited was neither the world of PE or the one of PH but a third that combined elements of the other two.

Cptadder wrote:My headcanon knows for a fact that the Zebra Caesar did not survive the war. Or to be more exact the one who started the war was not the one who finished it. My headcannon postulates that two to as many as five Caesars held the title. As names and glory was won in war the young headstrong one who kicked off the war was replaced by a son or daughter who then was replaced by someone who have covered themselves in glory and then either held on to the end or replaced by a son or daughter of their own.

If they were trying to kill Luna constantly I don't see MoA and the Goldenblood not sending even a single dagger back the other way.
This is also a good point.

Erumpet wrote:@Zebra Ceasar: I definitely see him as a Hitleresque leader, lots of motivational speeches, complete authority, idolized, almost worshipped, but not quite a god, just as close as a human can be. To his followers at least.
…Wow, we really have different headcanons. I see the position starting roughly a bit above the President of the European Council in terms of power/prestige and ending maybe around or a bit below the President of the United States.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Stringtheory on Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:52 pm

O. Hinds wrote:
Erumpet wrote:@Zebra Ceasar: I definitely see him as a Hitleresque leader, lots of motivational speeches, complete authority, idolized, almost worshipped, but not quite a god, just as close as a human can be. To his followers at least.
…Wow, we really have different headcanons. I see the position starting roughly a bit above the President of the European Council in terms of power/prestige and ending maybe around or a bit below the President of the United States.
I see him as somewhere between President level and Roman Emperor, remember he had to play politics to stay in power and in order to show he had power he started the coal embargo because the Wonderbolt rescue mission in zebra eyes an insult to their sovereignty, and if he did nothing he would've probably been kicked out, IIRC
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Erumpet on Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:25 pm

@Zebracesar: I always think of him as seeming all powerful to the masses, and they treat him like that and revere him, and a very few higher ups are the ones he has to play politics with. He has a massive fanatical following, but others do too and he needs to play politics with them at the start of the war. As the war continues he gains more power and followers until he no longer needs to fight petty politics
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Icy Shake on Thu Sep 27, 2012 2:23 pm

Sindri wrote:
Icy Shake wrote:this chapter just reminded me of some of the frustration I had with Pink Eyes ). I look forward to there being a PH chapter, but I just have trouble imagining PH and PE taking place in the same world.
I suppose I subscribe to a variation or the traditional literary agent theory or whatever it's called; In my mind Pinke Eyes is a legend, a tall tale told to foals across the Wasteland. It isn't an authoritative source on the Nightmare or historical events, and the places and groups it mentions may or may not exist, but it's a good story as long as you don't think too hard. It was probably inspired by real things, and might have even been true at first, but the story's warped and grown over the years and whoever we hear it from is an unreliable narrator.


Meanwhile the original Fo:E is a precise, careful historical account of Littlepip's journeys and the events which changed the Wasteland. Everything inside is accurate, to the best knowledge of 'Pip as the narrator and whoever copied it down into the book.

Project Horizons is something that's actually happening to Blackjack as it's told. And that's terrible.

Spoiler:
I guess if you look at PE as that sort of story, it can fit better; the problem is that in that case you presumably wouldn't have Spike be the same in both/they aren't the same universe, and I'd expect knowledge not to be shared between the characters. And my issue wasn't just that the Nightmare didn't really seem to fit into FoE/expanded FoE--I simply didn't like the characterization of the Nightmare even within the narrow confines of PE.

And part of the frustration was from the editing, not the plot, setting, or characters.

As for SBC, I've always been under the impression that each chapter was meant to actually take place in the universe of the story that was crossed. Sure, you could have a mixed universe, but in that case you need to change major aspects of one or both FoE side stories.

On Caesar: I think that the conceptualization with the Caesar starting out as something of a symbolic figurehead--whose main power came from prestige--and ending up in a position similar to a US president could work well. POTUS, after all, maintains much of the same need to operate via diplomacy and politics to achieve many (most?) goals, while having a greater degree of personal authority in others--particularly the execution of armed conflict, which is of course particularly relevant here.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by O. Hinds on Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:11 pm

Icy Shake wrote:As for SBC, I've always been under the impression that each chapter was meant to actually take place in the universe of the story that was crossed. Sure, you could have a mixed universe, but in that case you need to change major aspects of one or both FoE side stories.
Shroedinger's gun: only when the wall is seen does a definite presence or absence of a gun on it come into existence. Whether the universes are the same, mixed, alternate, etc. is (and probably will continue to be) left undefined. I choose, therefore, to believe the version that preserves both internal and external structural integrity.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Ironmonger on Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:32 pm

NO ONE EXPECTS THE GAUSS RIFLE. This lass draws really great stuff so put her on your watch list. Twilight Sparkle

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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Caoimhe on Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:33 pm

That doesn't look like it'd be too safe to run around with. Also it would probably sway and burn ya.
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Post by Ironmonger on Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:35 pm

Unicorn that stuff. Fixed.

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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by CamoBadger on Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:38 pm

Caoimhe wrote:That doesn't look like it'd be too safe to run around with. Also it would probably sway and burn ya.
I expect the gunner with that thing wouldn't be running. Probably walking behind the friendly line and setting up to take out any large enemies, especially since it weighs 103lbs.

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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Cptadder on Thu Sep 27, 2012 8:28 pm

O. Hinds wrote:

Cptadder wrote:My headcanon knows for a fact that the Zebra Caesar did not survive the war. Or to be more exact the one who started the war was not the one who finished it. My headcannon postulates that two to as many as five Caesars held the title. As names and glory was won in war the young headstrong one who kicked off the war was replaced by a son or daughter who then was replaced by someone who have covered themselves in glory and then either held on to the end or replaced by a son or daughter of their own.

If they were trying to kill Luna constantly I don't see MoA and the Goldenblood not sending even a single dagger back the other way.
This is also a good point.

Erumpet wrote:@Zebra Ceasar: I definitely see him as a Hitleresque leader, lots of motivational speeches, complete authority, idolized, almost worshipped, but not quite a god, just as close as a human can be. To his followers at least.
…Wow, we really have different headcanons. I see the position starting roughly a bit above the President of the European Council in terms of power/prestige and ending maybe around or a bit below the President of the United States.

stringtheory wrote:
I see him as somewhere between President level and Roman Emperor, remember he had to play politics to stay in power and in order to show he had power he started the coal embargo because the Wonderbolt rescue mission in zebra eyes an insult to their sovereignty, and if he did nothing he would've probably been kicked out, IIRC

A reminder here because Stringtheory touched on it. Kkhat mentioned this in the comments way back when. Pre-war the Caesar was a combination UN Secretary General and Oprah (That's a fun combo) he had no physical power, he had no division to call on. He was the ultimate arbiter between the tribes. To become Caesar you had to simply let it be know your were applying for the job and convince the tribes to give it to you. Depending on the period of history the process of Caesar was very formal to very informal. The proccess was ultimatly based on winning the respect of the tribes and once won maintaining it. A wise Caesar spent his respect well and sparingly for his basic purpose was mediation between tribes not to rule them. As the ultimate neutral third party he could be counted on to rule fairly and well on disputes not on ruling the Zebras.

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To put it bluntly the Zebras had little need for a Caesar with real powers, being so well respected and well known they could (Like Orpah in her heyday) simple say a thing should be done and soon the common people would rally to their chiefs and get that thing done.

But War demands sacrifices and you need a Warchief when war comes a knocking meaning the position of Caesar naturally morphed into the position of Supreme Commander of Zebra forces. However the position was still respect based meaning that when the war went south or a sudden reversal was suffered then the Caesar had to step down. Which meant when the war kicked off the Caesar had a great deal of power, but as time went and as Caesars were killed or resigned or were removed the unelected military officers retained more power. Who knows how well along the progress was when the day of fire and end of all arrived.



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Caoimhe wrote:That doesn't look like it'd be too safe to run around with. Also it would probably sway and burn ya.
I expect the gunner with that thing wouldn't be running. Probably walking behind the friendly line and setting up to take out any large enemies, especially since it weighs 103lbs.
That sucker only works if there's a second pony carrying the 80 pound tripod to mount that sucker on. Even with Power armor a 103 pound weight on one side means no accuracy unless it's smart linked but to be firing it you have to be standing tall because it hangs so low. That only works if it's the part of a three man anti-machine Gauss team. (One the gun, one the tripod, one the generator and ammo)
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Post by Ironmonger on Thu Sep 27, 2012 8:35 pm

Just like how it takes 6 men to operate a Maxim machine gun...this gives me ideas! Twilight crazy

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Ironmonger wrote:Just like how it takes 6 men to operate a Maxim machine gun...this gives me ideas! Twilight crazy
Only takes six if you use the nifty shield for long term emplacement and the 1890s verison. The 1900+ version was a four man crew. Gunner, loader, layer and water guy.
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Post by Ironmonger on Thu Sep 27, 2012 8:41 pm

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Ironmonger wrote:Just like how it takes 6 men to operate a Maxim machine gun...this gives me ideas! Twilight crazy
Only takes six if you use the nifty shield for long term emplacement and the 1890s verison. The 1900+ version was a four man crew. Gunner, loader, layer and water guy.
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I have a book that says otherwise. On the other hand this might be my ADHD... How *aneurysm*
Found it. It was the Vickers gun I was thinking of. Six men per team: 1 Gunner, 1 Loader, other guys looked after the ammo logistics and carried equipment.

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Post by Cptadder on Thu Sep 27, 2012 8:51 pm

Ironmonger wrote:
Found it. It was the Vickers gun I was thinking of. Six men per team: 1 Gunner, 1 Loader, other guys looked after the ammo logistics and carried equipment.
Was this a British WWI unit, Russia WWII unit, American Unit? Just curios because the standard crew size is four, the only reason to use more was the WWI trench situation or in static conditions because you really had two guys (gunner and spotter) plus the water guy running water and the other two doing nothing but feeding ammo.

Once of the nice things about those old Maxims was with a active water source you could fire for hours without stopping, limited only by ammo and water.
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Post by Ironmonger on Thu Sep 27, 2012 8:52 pm

It was WW2 United Kingdom. Source is the book called Weapons of World War 2, I read that thing religiously.

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Water jacket is best cooling method.
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I'm not trying to be a pain but, uh, isn't the page you linked basically the prime resource for locating examples of the trope?

A) I have faith in the opinions of the people frequenting this thread. I'd rather have results filtered through their knowledge and tastes than the faceless mass of TVtropes users.

B) It completely slipped my mind to use the page. Derpy Hooves

Since I'm already asking obvious questions, would anyone tell me what classification or genre you'd place the Flim/Flam Brothers song into? It escapes me at the moment.
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