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Post by Kippershy on Fri Oct 05, 2012 1:35 pm

Ironmonger wrote:Nothing says hallelujah quite like a balefire egg launched into a Manticore nest.

NO! NO NO NO! Maisy is a manticore! I WON'T LET YOU HURT MY MAISY!
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Post by Vergil on Fri Oct 05, 2012 1:42 pm

The puns

THE PUNS

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Post by Ironmonger on Fri Oct 05, 2012 1:50 pm

Vergil wrote:The puns

THE PUNS

HNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNG

That's either an aneurysm or an orgasm. Or both. ...An aneurgasm?

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Post by Katarn on Fri Oct 05, 2012 1:51 pm

Spoiler:

And I would kindly ask you not to launch belfire eggs at manticore nest. Think about cubs.
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Post by Ironmonger on Fri Oct 05, 2012 1:52 pm

Name for an old rifle, Wood Stock.

Think about cubs.
That's childish. Luna

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Post by Kippershy on Fri Oct 05, 2012 2:03 pm

Katarn wrote:
Spoiler:

And I would kindly ask you not to launch belfire eggs at manticore nest. Think about cubs.

I wish I had a picture of Maisy right now... especially if I had a picture of Crimson looking sad and Maisy pouting. At the camera.

Wait one.
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Post by Ironmonger on Fri Oct 05, 2012 2:06 pm

Heeeeeeeeeeeeere Maisy Maisy Maisy...


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Post by Katarn on Fri Oct 05, 2012 2:18 pm



This is manticore...firing at it's 'nest' even from THAT canon..might be not really effective.
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Post by Kippershy on Fri Oct 05, 2012 2:24 pm

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Post by Katarn on Fri Oct 05, 2012 2:37 pm

Oh gawd....
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Post by Ironmonger on Fri Oct 05, 2012 2:38 pm

Katarn wrote:

This is manticore...firing at it's 'nest' even from THAT canon..might be not really effective.
Completely forgot about that thing. Now I plan on putting it in my story! Spike

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Post by Vergil on Fri Oct 05, 2012 2:40 pm

Katarn wrote:
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And I would kindly ask you not to launch belfire eggs at manticore nest. Think about cubs.

Now it's definitely an aneurysm.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Ironmonger on Fri Oct 05, 2012 2:45 pm

This talk of aneurysms reminded me of a comment Frost made about my story. We planned on Blackjack being in a few scenes (if she didn't die), he joked that Somber might have an aneurysm if she's happy and not suffering.

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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Vergil on Fri Oct 05, 2012 3:01 pm

Ironmonger wrote:This talk of aneurysms reminded me of a comment Frost made about my story. We planned on Blackjack being in a few scenes (if she didn't die), he joked that Somber might have an aneurysm if she's happy and not suffering.

Awwww now that's just cruel for BJ and Somber!
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Ironmonger on Fri Oct 05, 2012 3:38 pm

.700 Nitro Express rifle called Wild Bore. Guns send ponies to the morgue. This sends ponies to hell. Could use it for hellhound hunting.

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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Caoimhe on Fri Oct 05, 2012 3:44 pm

Last night I was thinking about people whining about Blackjack's angst and whining.

It isn't angst at all really, it's realistic. How could anyone be fine in a foreign environment and you're forced to brutally murder fellow beings to survive. If you aren't a complete sociopath, that shit should eat at you HARDCORE. I think we're just so used to badass heroes that having a realistic character that can't murder without feeling remorse or personal fear is jarring.

Now that I remember this, I think this is the first real thing that I appreciated about PH, because it's grounded in some sort of psychological reality. Hell, In FoE, Littlepip is basically a huge whimpy dork who almost instantly becomes an almost remorseless defense killer after holding a weapon for the first time. BJ however is trained to kill yet verbosely feels the power of taking a life.

More attention should be paid to this, people who complain about the angst and negativity don't seem to realize that there are consequences to murder even in fiction.
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Post by Ironmonger on Fri Oct 05, 2012 3:48 pm

Caoimhe wrote:Last night I was thinking about people whining about Blackjack's angst and whining.

It isn't angst at all really, it's realistic. How could anyone be fine in a foreign environment and you're forced to brutally murder fellow beings to survive. If you aren't a complete sociopath, that shit should eat at you HARDCORE. I think we're just so used to badass heroes that having a realistic character that can't murder without feeling remorse or personal fear is jarring.

Now that I remember this, I think this is the first real thing that I appreciated about PH, because it's grounded in some sort of psychological reality. Hell, In FoE, Littlepip is basically a huge whimpy dork who almost instantly becomes an almost remorseless defense killer after holding a weapon for the first time. BJ however is trained to kill yet verbosely feels the power of taking a life.

More attention should be paid to this, people who complain about the angst and negativity don't seem to realize that there are consequences to murder even in fiction.

This is what happens when people who aren't well taught or well read look at the best fanfic ever. They bitch about stuff that's over their heads.

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Post by Caoimhe on Fri Oct 05, 2012 4:01 pm

That or people expect because it's based on a video game that it should play out like a video game and have an enormous body count from the protagonist and catch phrases and firearms fetishism non stop. AbH

On another note: I just saw those Pony Thread Simulator videos. Someone should make a PHCC simulator. It'd be terrifying
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Post by Ironmonger on Fri Oct 05, 2012 4:05 pm

Caoimhe wrote:That or people expect because it's based on a video game that it should play out like a video game and have an enormous body count from the protagonist and catch phrases and firearms fetishism non stop. AbH

On another note: I just saw those Pony Thread Simulator videos. Someone should make a PHCC simulator. It'd be terrifying

Especially if it was the page where I attempted derail and Kipper succeeded.

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Post by Kippershy on Fri Oct 05, 2012 4:11 pm

Caoimhe wrote:That or people expect because it's based on a video game that it should play out like a video game and have an enormous body count from the protagonist and catch phrases and firearms fetishism non stop. AbH

On another note: I just saw those Pony Thread Simulator videos. Someone should make a PHCC simulator. It'd be terrifying

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Post by Ironmonger on Fri Oct 05, 2012 4:12 pm

This video sums up the thread perfectly. I'm the scout.


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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Cptadder on Fri Oct 05, 2012 4:21 pm

Caoimhe wrote:

It isn't angst at all really, it's realistic. How could anyone be fine in a foreign environment and you're forced to brutally murder fellow beings to survive. If you aren't a complete sociopath, that shit should eat at you HARDCORE. I think we're just so used to badass heroes that having a realistic character that can't murder without feeling remorse or personal fear is jarring.
Thing is there is a certain percentage of the population (5% roughly) who are sociopaths and can MDK all day long without issues. As for the rest, let me just say this.
Every kill after first gets easier, when your in the shit your in the shit. What Littlepip lacks (And Blackjack lacks) is that long term damage because neither of them leave the shit. For example in early FoE the first time Littlepip fights an Alicorn she nearly dies three times over and think she is going to die. That should dwell on her.

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Now that I remember this, I think this is the first real thing that I appreciated about PH, because it's grounded in some sort of psychological reality. Hell, In FoE, Littlepip is basically a huge whimpy dork who almost instantly becomes an almost remorseless defense killer after holding a weapon for the first time. BJ however is trained to kill yet verbosely feels the power of taking a life.
Which we see in Happyhorn sorta, we see the deaths that mattered to Blackjack, the things if she ever gets a calm year should start triggering the flashbacks and the panic attacks.
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Post by IncoherentOrange on Fri Oct 05, 2012 4:24 pm

Caoimhe wrote:Last night I was thinking about people whining about Blackjack's angst and whining.

It isn't angst at all really, it's realistic. How could anyone be fine in a foreign environment and you're forced to brutally murder fellow beings to survive. If you aren't a complete sociopath, that shit should eat at you HARDCORE. I think we're just so used to badass heroes that having a realistic character that can't murder without feeling remorse or personal fear is jarring.

Hell, In FoE, Littlepip is basically a huge whimpy dork who almost instantly becomes an almost remorseless defense killer after holding a weapon for the first time.

Indeed. Littlepip just seems to get over it extremely quickly, and becomes a killing machine to boot--mostly because she's always got friends around to fix wounds and her constantly-being-upgraded-and-found-randomly S.A.T.S., weapons, and TK. (Or, maybe, she gets those enhancements because she's a PipBuck tech and knows how to upgrade a S.A.T.S. matrix. TK because she doesn't have any other spells, or whatnot.) But when Monterey Jack is executed, she flips shit because it was her fault for bringing up his attempt to rob her. Yeah, and who else's death was her fault? A whole lot of ponies. Raider or not. That's my major gripe about Littlepip. Blackjack, though, is a security pony. She is trained to kill, yes, but doesn't like it. Y'know, like any police officer.

It'd take a lot of guts to shoot and kill someone, no matter the case. Both Littlepip and Blackjack have to do so repeatedly and often. I know of no sane psyche that could simply handle that easily, if at all.
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Post by Ironmonger on Fri Oct 05, 2012 4:28 pm

One name. Simo Hayha. True badass warriors are few and far between however so I agree.

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Post by Kippershy on Fri Oct 05, 2012 4:37 pm

Ironmonger wrote:One name. Simo Hayha. True badass warriors are few and far between however so I agree.

The only thing I can say is - for him, it was a job during a war.
Not saying that BJ or LP aren't doing a job in a warground, hell, it's survival in a lifestyle...
But Simo did it out of necessity in a way which is a lot easier to handle than the 'casual murdering just to survive... every day you'll ever live from now on' the other two go through.

(Because you know, come any result, there's ALWAYS an end to war.)
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Post by Ironmonger on Fri Oct 05, 2012 4:40 pm

Kippershy wrote:
Ironmonger wrote:One name. Simo Hayha. True badass warriors are few and far between however so I agree.

The only thing I can say is - for him, it was a job during a war.
Not saying that BJ or LP aren't doing a job in a warground, hell, it's survival in a lifestyle...
But Simo did it out of necessity in a way which is a lot easier to handle than the 'casual murdering just to survive... every day you'll ever live from now on' the other two go through.

(Because you know, come any result, there's ALWAYS an end to war.)

I've read his wikipedia entry. There is truth in your words. I got the impression that Simo was unfazed, like he never gave a damn.
At the risk of sounding like a jackass due to the fact I haven't been to war yet, personally I'd just be aggravated with the living conditions. Killing would be routine, they shoot at me so I shoot them back. The wasteland needs more Raid for them bloatsprites...

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Post by RoboRed on Fri Oct 05, 2012 5:03 pm

Caoimhe wrote:scootaburger is best poni
Don't burgers have beef? That looks more like a chicken sandwich to me. Spike

(Yeah, I just had to go there.)

Ironmonger wrote:Once I slipped up and said "Everyf*ggot*" in a Micro Center.
...I probably shouldn't have laughed at this as hard as I did.

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Mister Frost's friend, "Darren" wrote:"I'm scared to break up with her, though. Her dad's an ex-marine; if I make her cry he'll club me over the head with a pillowcase full of doorknobs and Tom Clancy novels."

Sindri wrote:This is a thread for fans of a fanfiction of a fanfiction about murderous miniature pastel equines in a grimdark post-apocalyptic future.
If you wanted to stay anywhere near socially acceptable, you should have taken a left turn about three layers of WTF back.

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Post by Ironmonger on Fri Oct 05, 2012 5:10 pm

With the amount of people who've read my post as "Birdshit", you've triggered another bizarre idea. Coffee can full of fecal matter in a cannon. And birdshot.

In America, shit hits the fan.

In Equestria, shit brutally tears you apart from long range.

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Post by Sindri on Fri Oct 05, 2012 5:30 pm

IncoherentOrange wrote:I just wrote some more of my new fanfic project, up to two thousand words on my first chapter. (and could use a pre-reader, if anyone's interested.) Now that I'm in a literature-y mood, I'm going to go read some Fallout: Equestria. Oh, it feels good to write again.
Well, more writers in the world is almost always a good thing. I'm not an editor by any means, but I should probably have some time the next couple days to go through what you have, point out any errors glaring enough for me to see them, and probably overanalyze things you weren't even thinking about?


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Yeah...awkward...
It's not an uncommon phenomenon; I remember back in Kkat's old comment thread on EQD, at one point an employee at Bethesda accidentally said Pip-Buck instead of Pip-Boy during serious business discussion. Personally I can hardly remember the names they actually use for chems in NV; I always use the pony names. And I've made several everybody/eveypony mistakes and a couple of hand/hoof errors IRL.


Ironmonger wrote:At the risk of sounding like a jackass due to the fact I haven't been to war yet, personally I'd just be aggravated with the living conditions. Killing would be routine, they shoot at me so I shoot them back. The wasteland needs more Raid for them bloatsprites...
A lot of people think they could kill casually under the right conditions. But in reality, not being deeply affected the first time you directly end someone's life (regardless of who they are, what they're responsible for, and what they would have done if you didn't) is a sign of something strange in your head. Not something wrong necessarily, and certainly something useful under terrible circumstances (bad warfare, the Wasteland), but something that sets you apart from the 95% of people who are traumatized by the experience, and probably something that would be defined as a psychological disorder if you ever got properly examined.
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Post by Ironmonger on Fri Oct 05, 2012 5:40 pm

Completely true. I'm just going by the fact I joke about murder and manslaughter all the time and in public, I admit there is an error margin the size of Fat Albert.

Unrelated: We just made my dog's official nickname "Piss fight". Somehow it fits.

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