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Post by Ironmonger Mon Oct 01, 2012 8:10 am

When anyone mentions WW1-ish tanks the first thing that comes to mind is the Mark 1 followed directly by Warhammer. Admittedly I mixed some 40K elements into my story because they are interesting. Equipment plays an important role as a plot device so I pay extra attention to it.

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Post by O. Hinds Mon Oct 01, 2012 9:04 am

Cptadder wrote:What is the issue with your residence hall murdering your connect, is it just designed for web surfing only or some such?
It's just not a terribly good connection; I've had this and similar problems before. When they installed the system, they apparently greatly underestimated the amount of bandwith a building full of college students would need (how they managed to do that, I don't know).
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Post by Ironmonger Mon Oct 01, 2012 9:06 am

O. Hinds wrote:
Cptadder wrote:What is the issue with your residence hall murdering your connect, is it just designed for web surfing only or some such?
It's just not a terribly good connection; I've had this and similar problems before. When they installed the system, they apparently greatly underestimated the amount of bandwith a building full of college students would need (how they managed to do that, I don't know).
I'm not surprised. Everyone is an idiot to different extents.

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Post by Cptadder Mon Oct 01, 2012 9:17 am

Ironmonger wrote:
O. Hinds wrote:
Cptadder wrote:What is the issue with your residence hall murdering your connect, is it just designed for web surfing only or some such?
It's just not a terribly good connection; I've had this and similar problems before. When they installed the system, they apparently greatly underestimated the amount of bandwith a building full of college students would need (how they managed to do that, I don't know).
I'm not surprised. Everyone is an idiot to different extents.
Colleges are infamous for this however as most of those networks were installed in the 1990s and to save money many are still 10mpbs thicknet which was cheap back then. Also University connections themselves are pretty slow. Few places have shelled out for Fiber yet or even just Gig Ethernet because most Universities managed to through ill luck be just perfectly positioned to miss deals on the good stuff.

IE say your buying a Phone, the Iphone 4 has been out for a year now, but the Iphone five was just released so the Iphone 3 is a steal these days... but if you were upgrading during the Janurary time frame a new Iphone 4 can be had for current Iphone 3 prices. In Universities case those that don't practice draconian internet policies to try and stop piracy often are a year early to the correct time to upgrade missing out on the massive cheapness of 10/100 when 1000 hit and so on.
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Post by O. Hinds Mon Oct 01, 2012 10:10 am

Cptadder wrote:
Ironmonger wrote:
O. Hinds wrote:
Cptadder wrote:What is the issue with your residence hall murdering your connect, is it just designed for web surfing only or some such?
It's just not a terribly good connection; I've had this and similar problems before. When they installed the system, they apparently greatly underestimated the amount of bandwith a building full of college students would need (how they managed to do that, I don't know).
I'm not surprised. Everyone is an idiot to different extents.
Colleges are infamous for this however as most of those networks were installed in the 1990s and to save money many are still 10mpbs thicknet which was cheap back then. Also University connections themselves are pretty slow. Few places have shelled out for Fiber yet or even just Gig Ethernet because most Universities managed to through ill luck be just perfectly positioned to miss deals on the good stuff.

IE say your buying a Phone, the Iphone 4 has been out for a year now, but the Iphone five was just released so the Iphone 3 is a steal these days... but if you were upgrading during the Janurary time frame a new Iphone 4 can be had for current Iphone 3 prices. In Universities case those that don't practice draconian internet policies to try and stop piracy often are a year early to the correct time to upgrade missing out on the massive cheapness of 10/100 when 1000 hit and so on.
Actually, the university's connection is in theory pretty fast; as I recall, we've actually got a dedicated fiber line. Then the line gets onto campus and meets a mishmash of century-plus construction and retrofits built often with an eye more to cost than capacity, resulting in highly varying connection quality that at its best is still iffy for muliplayer gaming. The older residence halls didn't have wifi at all until, IIRC, last semester.
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Post by Caoimhe Mon Oct 01, 2012 10:19 am

My college solved the piracy bandwidth problem by creating a DC++/hotline (remember that?) server on the network and encouraged people to steal stuff from each other. Interesting solution, but it kept traffic down.

Of course this was late 90s so file sizes people were stealing were a lot smaller, too.

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how does this make you sad, I have found the fan art some what bothersome in that you don't really see how Emaciated Murkey really is. how he should be since he is so underfed. his flanks and barrel are always portrayed as full\
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Post by RoboRed Mon Oct 01, 2012 10:40 am

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You're back! I actually thought you were gone because we'd scared you off. Applebloom
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Post by Sindri Mon Oct 01, 2012 10:45 am

O. Hinds wrote:
Cptadder wrote:What is the issue with your residence hall murdering your connect, is it just designed for web surfing only or some such?
It's just not a terribly good connection; I've had this and similar problems before. When they installed the system, they apparently greatly underestimated the amount of bandwith a building full of college students would need (how they managed to do that, I don't know).
Is the answer all of it? Because if I was trying to figure out how much bandwidth a building full of college kids would use, I'd guess all of it.


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Silly Robo. How would we even scare Necr0maNceR?
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Post by Ironmonger Mon Oct 01, 2012 11:15 am

Pun incoming: Make your list and czech it twice. Twilight

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Post by nebulous Mon Oct 01, 2012 12:35 pm

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nebulous wrote:Has anyone made a timeline of the events in Fallout: Equestria and/or Project Horizons?
Not a general-purpose one. Are you interested in my countdown-to-Maripony schedule, or are you looking for something broader in scope?
I was thinking a broader timeline, going from the show to the FOE epilogue at least. A timeline that included the better FOE side stories, maybe color coded to show which story they come from, would be cool. And some speculative dates for historical stuff like the founding of Equestria, Discord's reign, etc. would also be cool.

Essentially, I'd love for an Equestria / Fallout: Equestria / Project Horizons / some other FOE side stories timeline to exist. Maybe it could start as a cleaned-up FOE wiki timeline, but their adherence to only showing different fanfics' canon would prevent a lot of concrete dating. So, what client would be good for starting a FOE-verse timeline on?
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Post by O. Hinds Mon Oct 01, 2012 1:32 pm

Sindri wrote:
O. Hinds wrote:
Cptadder wrote:What is the issue with your residence hall murdering your connect, is it just designed for web surfing only or some such?
It's just not a terribly good connection; I've had this and similar problems before. When they installed the system, they apparently greatly underestimated the amount of bandwith a building full of college students would need (how they managed to do that, I don't know).
Is the answer all of it? Because if I was trying to figure out how much bandwidth a building full of college kids would use, I'd guess all of it.
Pretty much. Also, their idea of addressing the problem was sending us an email asking us to please not use the wifi so much, thanks. Things might be a bit better on the wired network, but a: though I could buy one, I don't at the moment have a cable and b: my RA said that we were pushing the building's bandwidth limit anyway.
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Post by Cptadder Mon Oct 01, 2012 1:42 pm

O. Hinds wrote:
Sindri wrote:
O. Hinds wrote:
Cptadder wrote:What is the issue with your residence hall murdering your connect, is it just designed for web surfing only or some such?
It's just not a terribly good connection; I've had this and similar problems before. When they installed the system, they apparently greatly underestimated the amount of bandwith a building full of college students would need (how they managed to do that, I don't know).
Is the answer all of it? Because if I was trying to figure out how much bandwidth a building full of college kids would use, I'd guess all of it.
Pretty much. Also, their idea of addressing the problem was sending us an email asking us to please not use the wifi so much, thanks. Things might be a bit better on the wired network, but a: though I could buy one, I don't at the moment have a cable and b: my RA said that we were pushing the building's bandwidth limit anyway.
Video games take less bandwidth on average than normal web surfing surprising enough. Yes you get a spike of activity when you first load but the amount of raw data you need to send is surprisingly small. Latency (speed of delivery) is much more important than raw bandwidth. There is a hard limit of course. But even something as little as a 256k connection if the Latency is low enough can play any game out there without any serious lag.

Hosting your own game is much different of course.
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Post by O. Hinds Mon Oct 01, 2012 1:49 pm

Cptadder wrote:
O. Hinds wrote:
Sindri wrote:
O. Hinds wrote:
Cptadder wrote:What is the issue with your residence hall murdering your connect, is it just designed for web surfing only or some such?
It's just not a terribly good connection; I've had this and similar problems before. When they installed the system, they apparently greatly underestimated the amount of bandwith a building full of college students would need (how they managed to do that, I don't know).
Is the answer all of it? Because if I was trying to figure out how much bandwidth a building full of college kids would use, I'd guess all of it.
Pretty much. Also, their idea of addressing the problem was sending us an email asking us to please not use the wifi so much, thanks. Things might be a bit better on the wired network, but a: though I could buy one, I don't at the moment have a cable and b: my RA said that we were pushing the building's bandwidth limit anyway.
Video games take less bandwidth on average than normal web surfing surprising enough. Yes you get a spike of activity when you first load but the amount of raw data you need to send is surprisingly small. Latency (speed of delivery) is much more important than raw bandwidth. There is a hard limit of course. But even something as little as a 256k connection if the Latency is low enough can play any game out there without any serious lag.

Hosting your own game is much different of course.
Well, I'm not a CS major, but something about the campus network in general certainly seems to dislike multiplayer Minecraft (this is not the first problem I've had with it). And the network in my residence hall certainly is slow at a great many things.
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Post by Necr0maNceR Mon Oct 01, 2012 1:53 pm

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...you read ALL of O. Hinds' posts?
Holy crap o_O
I just skimmed the stuff about rails, trains, and airplanes. I was mostly just looking for PH related stuff.

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Silly Robo. How would we even scare Necr0maNceR?
Indeed Applebloom. Once again, I apologize for leaving without saying anything.



Anyhow, here's a picture of Deus that I made recently:
<img src="http://th05.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2012/269/d/9/deus_by_necr0manc3r-d5g0lzm.png" width="773" height="782">
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Post by Cptadder Mon Oct 01, 2012 1:59 pm

O. Hinds wrote:
Well, I'm not a CS major,
You rang? Coo

O. Hinds wrote:
but something about the campus network in general certainly seems to dislike multiplayer Minecraft (this is not the first problem I've had with it). And the network in my residence hall certainly is slow at a great many things.
Ah but your on a laptop so all you need do is find the nearest Starbucks and move in. Rate's are reasonable (One ten dollar cup of coffee per day) as long as you don't mind sink showers you'll be fine.

Just dress well and avoid the temptation to walk around in slippers and you'll be fine.
Alternatively depending on location, you might be able to simply drop 10$ on a 9dBI antenna assuming you have one of those wireless network adapters that let you upgrade the antenna. Most of them are pretty cheap if it's more than 30$ it's because your looking at an outdoor antenna which you don't need.

Unless you REALLY need to tie into that wifi network that's two miles away.

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Post by Ironmonger Mon Oct 01, 2012 2:22 pm

^I'm surprised no one posted that image sooner. That's been in my deviant watch for a while now. Big mac

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Post by RoboRed Mon Oct 01, 2012 2:38 pm

Necr0maNceR wrote:
Anyhow, here's a picture of Deus that I made recently:
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OHCHRISTHE'SGOINGTORAPEMEEEE... Shy
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Post by Ironmonger Mon Oct 01, 2012 2:39 pm

HE JUST WANTS A HUG. A HUG THAT WILL CRUSH YOUR RIBS AND SEND BLOOD-I MEAN RAINBOWS RUNNING FROM YOUR MOUTH. Tilt

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Post by Ketchup Mon Oct 01, 2012 3:11 pm

@Necro's back Fluttershy
Good to see someone come out from the depths of the past, it feels like we haven't had you around for a good while. Sounds like you had a busy time while you were away. Nice drawing of Deus, BTW.

@Murky
Really need to read that... I feel guilty for not doing so... but those 30k word chapters beat the hell out of my eyes, and if I do as-read reviews for them I'd take about 9 hours to read one chapter.
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Post by IncoherentOrange Mon Oct 01, 2012 3:26 pm

So much to read... So much.
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Post by O. Hinds Mon Oct 01, 2012 3:31 pm

Cptadder wrote:
Alternatively depending on location, you might be able to simply drop 10$ on a 9dBI antenna assuming you have one of those wireless network adapters that let you upgrade the antenna. Most of them are pretty cheap if it's more than 30$ it's because your looking at an outdoor antenna which you don't need.

Unless you REALLY need to tie into that wifi network that's two miles away.

How would putting a bigger antenna on my computer work (assuming that I'm correctly understanding you even that far)?
Sorry. While I know the basic hardware and software operating principles, my knowledge basically goes "basic principles->multiply by a huge amount->magic box that does things."
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Post by Kippershy Mon Oct 01, 2012 3:34 pm

O. Hinds wrote:
Cptadder wrote:
Alternatively depending on location, you might be able to simply drop 10$ on a 9dBI antenna assuming you have one of those wireless network adapters that let you upgrade the antenna. Most of them are pretty cheap if it's more than 30$ it's because your looking at an outdoor antenna which you don't need.

Unless you REALLY need to tie into that wifi network that's two miles away.

How would putting a bigger antenna on my computer work (assuming that I'm correctly understanding you even that far)?
Sorry. While I know the basic hardware and software operating principles, my knowledge basically goes "basic principles->multiply by a huge amount->magic box that does things."

He's literally talking about stealing someone else's wifi using an antenna -- and saying you shouldn't need a outdoors one unless you plan to steal it from someone the other end of town.
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Post by O. Hinds Mon Oct 01, 2012 3:35 pm

Actually, reading more, it looks like that antenna is meant to go on the router? Sorry, but I think that the college might object (and I'd need something to stand on, I think... and probably more than one antenna. The routers are mounted on the hallway ceiling.)
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Post by OneMoreDaySK Mon Oct 01, 2012 3:41 pm

Ironmonger wrote:HE JUST WANTS A HUG. A HUG THAT WILL CRUSH YOUR RIBS AND SEND BLOOD-I MEAN RAINBOWS RUNNING FROM YOUR MOUTH. [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion - Page 17 702243357

Whatever you do, don't look down.
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Post by Ironmonger Mon Oct 01, 2012 3:51 pm

I always imagined Deus sounding like this. EDIT: It was just suggested that my aunt name her cat "Sparkle" Twilight Sparkle or "Rainbow" Rainbow Dash What the blueberry fornication.


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Post by Guest Mon Oct 01, 2012 4:02 pm

Yeah, I've pictured Deus sounding something like that as well.

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Post by Kippershy Mon Oct 01, 2012 4:03 pm

O. Hinds wrote:Actually, reading more, it looks like that antenna is meant to go on the router? Sorry, but I think that the college might object (and I'd need something to stand on, I think... and probably more than one antenna. The routers are mounted on the hallway ceiling.)
Nah nah nah, I'm tellin' ya for sure here; he means YOUR computer / laptop.

"network adapter" being the important phrase here, seeing as he's assuming you're running off an non-integrated system (aka, dedicated network card) which can be upgraded.
Usually they'll have these two golden prod things that look almost like nuts, which an antenna cable will be tightened onto (by hand) to include an external antenna piece.

In the event of having a laptop rather than a PC, some wireless network adapter cards (read as: the higher grade ones) can have their antenna upgraded to increase signal send/receive range.


Trust me on this one, he means your end of it all. Generally routers don't get such dedicated upgrades. (and such would be pointless anyway, seeing as it's a bandwith issue and not a range of service issue.)
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Post by Kippershy Mon Oct 01, 2012 4:06 pm

Without making an edit, just to prove I knew what I was on about:

Looked at the link (I didn't previously) and I can tell you 100% right now; I am right.
Those golden bits at the end of the cable are EXACTLY what I was talking about with the 'prongs' nuts* even.
(As in, they're the receivers of the nut system. I know what I'm on about at least.)
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Post by Cptadder Mon Oct 01, 2012 4:25 pm

Unrelated note
Our minecraft server

Our nether portal is right in the middle of that
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Took us awhile to mine without getting a face full of lava
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Post by Ketchup Mon Oct 01, 2012 4:31 pm

Ironmonger wrote:
I had no headcanon voice for him, but this is now it.

Terminators kick ass in that game, but they absolutely devastated the enemy in the first DoW.
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