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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by CamoBadger on Thu Sep 06, 2012 8:01 pm

Yeah, they make it smaller because .50 is WAY too expensive (and that's just pistol rounds, the rifle version is...just no)

And yeah, I've almost bought many that I've seen for around $80 here, but I don't feel like getting a bruise over my shoulder every time I go to the range either XD

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Post by Ironmonger on Thu Sep 06, 2012 8:02 pm


Figured I'd ad a picture of a .223 Pistol since we are talking about guns. Doubles as a Fallout Equestria reference.

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Post by CamoBadger on Thu Sep 06, 2012 8:06 pm

...do not want...it just looks so... ridiculous? Impractical?

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Post by Ironmonger on Thu Sep 06, 2012 8:09 pm

Supposedly a hunting weapon. Yes, it looks impractical but we can't knock it till we try it.

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Post by IncoherentOrange on Thu Sep 06, 2012 8:13 pm

CamoBadger wrote:Yeah, they make it smaller because .50 is WAY too expensive (and that's just pistol rounds, the rifle version is...just no)

And yeah, I've almost bought many that I've seen for around $80 here, but I don't feel like getting a bruise over my shoulder every time I go to the range either XD

Is the round really so powerful in such a heavy rifle that it bruises? I mean, I have no experience with firearms other than firing a .22 Short rifle (I wasn't very good with its tiny sight, even at pathetically-short range), but I figured that the weight of the thing might compensate. (They range from 7.5-9 pounds, that's not light.)
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Post by CamoBadger on Thu Sep 06, 2012 8:22 pm

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CamoBadger wrote:Yeah, they make it smaller because .50 is WAY too expensive (and that's just pistol rounds, the rifle version is...just no)

And yeah, I've almost bought many that I've seen for around $80 here, but I don't feel like getting a bruise over my shoulder every time I go to the range either XD

Is the round really so powerful in such a heavy rifle that it bruises? I mean, I have no experience with firearms other than firing a .22 Short rifle (I wasn't very good with its tiny sight, even at pathetically-short range), but I figured that the weight of the thing might compensate. (They range from 7.5-9 pounds, that's not light.)
Actually, in the world of rifles, 7.5 pounds is average for the older weapons (before the days of modern weapon construction and the darn plastic space guns).
But regardless, the Mosin Nagant fires a big round. It says 7.62 on it, but the cartridge behind the bullet is much larger than the same bullet in an AK47. It flies faster, hits harder, and kicks harder than the AK does, which when you combine it with the metal buttplate, will bruise very fast. It hurts for skinny guys like me, who have a bony shoulder. If you've got extra meat, it still hurts, because metal beats meat. My buddy picked one up and we went to shoot, I got through about 10 rounds and refused to shoot anymore because of the bruising on my shoulder.

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Post by Ironmonger on Thu Sep 06, 2012 8:25 pm

20 Gauge shotgun is worse on recoil. Rifle recoil is like being shoved, shotgun recoil is like being punched.

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Post by CamoBadger on Thu Sep 06, 2012 8:28 pm

20ga? LOL!

Sorry, sorry, I'm biased. 12ga all the way!

But yes, I agree. Shotgun is much more sudden and strong as compared to rifle recoil, mostly due to the action of it, but they also tend to make shotgun stocks more padded to compensate.

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Post by RoboRed on Thu Sep 06, 2012 8:34 pm

...I really, REALLY need to got trapshooting again sometime...my 12ga is probably feeling neglected...

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Post by Caoimhe on Thu Sep 06, 2012 8:36 pm

I loves my Mossberg 500. Though all I do is shoot junk in the backyard of my parents' place or poorly attempt to shoot skeet in the ocean. It's fun to go up there and let off some steam.

That's all I know about weapons in general. :(
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Post by CamoBadger on Thu Sep 06, 2012 8:38 pm

Caoimhe wrote:I loves my Mossberg 500. Though all I do is shoot junk in the backyard of my parents' place or poorly attempt to shoot skeet in the ocean. It's fun to go up there and let off some steam.

That's all I know about weapons in general. :(
You sir, brohoof, now.

I've got a Mossberg 500 as well, and I lurve her.

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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Cptadder on Thu Sep 06, 2012 8:40 pm

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Ironmonger wrote:I don't know why noobs love the Deagle so much. When will they ever learn that it is a hunting weapon, not a combat weapon? Scootaloo
Unless you intend to hunt bears by hitting them with the gun it's not even that. It's a wrist breaker in .50 period. You don't put that size caliber in that size gun without a stock to adsorb the recoil and if your putting a stock on a handgun you fail gun design class.
Actually, when it was designed, they purposely made it extremely heavy to midigate the recoil, so it is much less than you'd think. Not quite manageable if you don't know what you're doing, but in the right hands it's very effective.
Which makes it even worse because heavy only makes the recoil work if you've got the hands for it. In my hands a 9mm barely jumps even in a one handed grip, I give it to my 110 pound cousin and she has to use both hands and stance before firing to be accurate.. Now hand her a Desert Eagle in .50 and she will hurt herself.


IncoherentOrange wrote:Supposedly, many D. Eagles are actually made in .357 or .44 instead, y'know, so people can use them and get ammunition for 'em.

(Sources: Jagged Alliance 2, FO2, Wikipedia.)
I see Mosin-Nagant rifles going for less than a hundred and forty bucks, in related news. Put into perspective with airsoft guns, you've got a high-powered, combat-proven workhorse rifle that's cheaper than three quarters of the market. I find this funny.
Yes the Desert Eagle in .357 is a decent gun, there are many better however. Browning Hi-power's and Glock are still the two first guns I go to when I want to recommend a hand gun to someone.

As for the Mosin-Nagent remember they were made by the tens of millions during WW2, rather than let factories sit idle the Soviets kept on producing them even as they were handing out PPsH's and SVT's like candy. Post war they gutted the market for a few years before giving up and handing out Mosin-Nagets to every Communist, semi-communist and just for fun to every third world country on the planet. And since Mosin-Nagants are of the WW1 "built to hit people with" standard they last forever. Which is why you can find them for 200$ these days as parts are plentiful and they don't break easy. But there are so many more modern designs out there this keeps the prices low.

And a for recoil (Separate quote just a general statement) it depends on the gun, the round and the stock design, some stock designs act as recoil dampeners some just pass it directly through but if you have meat free shoulders then you can get rubber backed butt plates to help to alleviate that impact.


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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Caoimhe on Thu Sep 06, 2012 8:40 pm

CamoBadger wrote:
Caoimhe wrote:I loves my Mossberg 500. Though all I do is shoot junk in the backyard of my parents' place or poorly attempt to shoot skeet in the ocean. It's fun to go up there and let off some steam.

That's all I know about weapons in general. :(
You sir, brohoof, now.

I've got a Mossberg 500 as well, and I lurve her.

"Miss," please. :P

Mine (her name is "Magdalene") mostly stays over my mantle, but I did finally get a shorty stock for it. My brother is infinitely jealous of it. :)


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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by IncoherentOrange on Thu Sep 06, 2012 8:40 pm

I knew that early service rifles were universally of that weight, they are heavy in relative terms, as you said. I've heard that many in the US are rechambered for .30-06, but, as far as I know, most of those full-power rounds are roughly the same, though I don't know much about the Russian one, specifically. It's got more powder than the others, (.303, .30-'06) I presume?

If Canada's gun laws (I almost typed that 'fun flaws') weren't quite so stringent I would most definitely have more experience. However, since I'm a small fat wimp, I doubt I'd much enjoy shotguns.
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Post by RoboRed on Thu Sep 06, 2012 8:41 pm

I have two shotties. A Remington 1100 and a Remington 870.

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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by CamoBadger on Thu Sep 06, 2012 8:44 pm

Caoimhe wrote:

"Miss," please. :P

Mine mostly stays over my mantle, but I did finally get a shorty stock for it. My brother is infinitely jealous of it. :)
Oh, sorry for that Miss XD

And I'm kinda jealous of that stock too...

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I have two shotties. A Remington 1100 and a Remington 870.
I want to brohoof you as well...but I can't do it...I'm a mossberg fanboy...still some nice ones you got there.

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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Guarddogjr on Thu Sep 06, 2012 9:42 pm

CamoBadger wrote:
Caoimhe wrote:I loves my Mossberg 500. Though all I do is shoot junk in the backyard of my parents' place or poorly attempt to shoot skeet in the ocean. It's fun to go up there and let off some steam.

That's all I know about weapons in general. :(
You sir, brohoof, now.

I've got a Mossberg 500 as well, and I lurve her.

So both of y'all have Mossberg 500's as well. The one I have has an adjustable stock with a side saddle and I love her so much. Unfortunately I don't get to go shooting that often. Also, anyone here ever fire an M1 Garand? I bought one a couple months ago but I haven't the time to go and try her out yet.
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Post by IncoherentOrange on Thu Sep 06, 2012 9:45 pm

Garands seem pretty sweet; a weapon doesn't earn being called the "greatest implement of war ever devised by man" (Paraphrased, George S. Patton) for nothing. But alas, I have fired nothing more than a puny rifle.
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Post by Admiral Stoic Rum on Thu Sep 06, 2012 9:49 pm

[h1]In Unrelated News[/h1]



She has this resonating tone to her voice.
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Post by Stringtheory on Thu Sep 06, 2012 10:07 pm

I haven't shot a gun yet and I'm 17, I feel so un-american...
guess that's because my families pretty liberal, and both of my parents are teachers
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Post by Sindri on Thu Sep 06, 2012 10:08 pm

stringtheory wrote:I haven't shot a gun yet and I'm 17, I feel so un-american...
guess that's because my families pretty liberal, and both of my parents are teachers
I'm significantly older than that and I've never owned a firearm. I do have a stupid overpowered crossbow I made when I had a bored weekend...
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Post by Admiral Stoic Rum on Thu Sep 06, 2012 10:23 pm

... I never fired a weapon until I was 19... well actually I never held a weapon until I was 19,.
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Post by Stringtheory on Thu Sep 06, 2012 10:39 pm

Admiral Stoic Rum wrote:... I never fired a weapon until I was 19... well actually I never held a weapon until I was 19,.
same, I haven't even held a gun yet, I know my dad has a revolver at the bottom of one of his drawers but I really don't care enough to find it, or have him show it to me
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Post by Admiral Stoic Rum on Thu Sep 06, 2012 10:42 pm



yeah what she said,

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Post by Admiral Stoic Rum on Thu Sep 06, 2012 10:58 pm

Damn it!

Smile smile smile always make me cry
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Post by Derpmind on Thu Sep 06, 2012 11:42 pm

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I disagree with this so freaking strongly. It's *Insert naughty words of choice* !!!!!! Comedy is when things are without consequences. You can watch Wile E. Coyote get smashed, flattened, and exploded and when he pops back up it's funny. Stand next to someone who gets seriously injured and if you're not in shock chances are you try will to help. Historical jokes are funny because the people and events are distanced from the here and now. As soon as there can be negative impact from a joke, it's not funny.

Another aspect of comedy is that it can be used to help people gain emotional distance from hurtful things. That's partially why people joke about their bad memories, so that it's not such a bad memory anymore. If you can joke about it, then that stubbed toe or spilled paint probably doesn't hurt as much as it used to.

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@Fallout NV mods
I'd love to add some of these mods (PN, as amazing as it is, is the only mod I have so far) but my computer's been semi-broken for two weeks now. Got that page bookmarked for after this weekend (when I hopefully get it fixed.) Anyways, there was some discussion about what weapons people typically use, and I'm a little worried. Maybe it's because I'm only level 9 on my first time playing, but I'm still using the same 'my first gun' Varmint rifle with a scope attachment as a sniping weapon. I can't even begin to count the number of enemies that I've sniped to death from super-long range, but if there are better alternatives for use early in the game I would like to know. I also mostly use a 10mm pistol and a caravan shotgun.

(Yes, I'm interjecting a discussion about real guns with a question about video-game guns. *Shrug*)

One last question: The beginning of FNV basically gives you no history besides being a courier. Are there any mods that let you choose a past for your character?
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Post by OneMoreDaySK on Fri Sep 07, 2012 12:11 am

RE: Guns
I've never had a gun. Closest was checking a friend's BB pistol. Personally, methinks that to be willing to use a gun is willing to kill with it. Not sure what would happen would a situation occur where I had a choice to use one or not. That scares me.

RE: Gangnam Style
Eh, I like the original better.

@Derpmind
That's why many people can laugh at things that are really insensitive, as there's not much consequence to them, aside from the ire of the offended. As soon as there is something that happens to them, it loses all sense of amusement. I guess it can also be used as a coping mechanism.

For FNV, why not just make your own backstory, like the Sims biography for each character? Or do you mean a playable backstory?
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Post by RoboRed on Fri Sep 07, 2012 12:13 am

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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Cptadder on Fri Sep 07, 2012 12:37 am

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I disagree with this so freaking strongly. It's *Insert naughty words of choice* !!!!!! Comedy is when things are without consequences. You can watch Wile E. Coyote get smashed, flattened, and exploded and when he pops back up it's funny. Stand next to someone who gets seriously injured and if you're not in shock chances are you try will to help. Historical jokes are funny because the people and events are distanced from the here and now. As soon as there can be negative impact from a joke, it's not funny.

Another aspect of comedy is that it can be used to help people gain emotional distance from hurtful things. That's partially why people joke about their bad memories, so that it's not such a bad memory anymore. If you can joke about it, then that stubbed toe or spilled paint probably doesn't hurt as much as it used to.
Wait your disagreeing with Comedy=Tragedy + Time but then you agree with it. Time remove the consequences, it's why Monty Python's joke about the amount of dead from the Black Death is frankly hilarious these days.

The Black Death was a great tragedy, but add a few hundred years and it's hilarious.

There are various forms of Comedy but a basic rule that bad things are funny in a long enough hindsight.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Downloaded Skill on Fri Sep 07, 2012 12:37 am

http://newvegas.nexusmods.com/mods/45739

This mod lets you pick a back story according to the description. I don't use it so I can't give any details beyond that, but hopefully it's what you're looking for Derpmind.
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