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Post by iLateralGX on Sun Jul 01, 2012 6:39 pm

Jeez we got some badasses/violent people here.

Reminds me of the time I punched and knocked out a 1st grader...

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I was a Kindergardener at the time, and he was bullying me. :P
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by O. Hinds on Sun Jul 01, 2012 6:43 pm

Rafafidi wrote:I noticed we are having bigger breaks between posts, then they arrive in a hot cluster.
O. Hinds wrote:...That emoticon in conjunction with this discussion has gotten me wondering about some of the holes in Fluttershy's past...
What holes are you talking about? Care to elaborate?
Well, we don't know much about it. Admittedly, that's hardly unique to her, but we do know that she was bullied, we know that she was friends with Rainbow (an athlete and prankster who's demonstrated willingness to enter direct combat) and that her ursine chiropracty was a bit violent, if effective...
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Cptadder on Sun Jul 01, 2012 7:21 pm

O. Hinds wrote:
Well, we don't know much about it. Admittedly, that's hardly unique to her, but we do know that she was bullied, we know that she was friends with Rainbow (an athlete and prankster who's demonstrated willingness to enter direct combat) and that her ursine chiropracty was a bit violent, if effective...
Plus there is the whole where was Fluttershy in the 90's thing. I know she says she was attending Veterinarian school in Japan but I got a buddy of mine swore he saw she was signed on with Executive outcomes in Sierra Leone when she claimed to be in school and we all know the crap that PMC's got up to with the diamond trade these days.

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Actually what holes in her background she was in Cloudsdale, she found out she had the power of heart and then I assume her woodland critter friends help set her up in Ponyvillie before she set up her little communist commune of animals payed for by what I assume are either meth labs or rich parents.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Ketchup on Sun Jul 01, 2012 7:43 pm

Cptadder wrote:
Actually what holes in her background she was in Cloudsdale, she found out she had the power of heart and then I assume her woodland critter friends help set her up in Ponyvillie before she set up her little communist commune of animals payed for by what I assume are either meth labs or rich parents.
This. Remember, magical meth, in this case.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by iLateralGX on Sun Jul 01, 2012 7:54 pm

Cptadder wrote:
Plus there is the whole where was Fluttershy in the 90's thing. I know she says she was attending Veterinarian school in Japan but I got a buddy of mine swore he saw she was signed on with Executive outcomes in Sierra Leone when she claimed to be in school and we all know the crap that PMC's got up to with the diamond trade these days.

Jeez, I must be watching a completely different show, and reading a completely different fanfic because none of this stuff seems familiar... I could have swore she worked in the science division of Canterlot University developing technologies that would be later used by the SDIO weapon dubbed "Star Wars"
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Sindri on Sun Jul 01, 2012 8:31 pm

Fluttershy lives on the edge of the Everfree, between the forest and the main part of Ponyville. There are many, many creatures in the forest who consider ponies to be nothing more than a food supply. And yet (one Ursa Minor directly provoked by Snips and Snails aside) none of them ever leave the forest. There's an emergency siren in Ponyville, implying attacks in the past, but nothing recently. Meanwhile her own cottage has nothing but a low wooden fence between it and the treeline less than ten meters away... and nothing bigger than a ferret comes without an invitation.

The only reasonable explanation seems to be that the Everfree forest is scared of Fluttershy.

She likely wandered in as a child, fresh out of the clouds (there's no way she'd return to Cloudsdale after she got her cutie mark; even if she wasn't a weak flier there was nothing for her up there). Eventually she'd meet some monster, something she couldn't deal with by normal cuteness and niceness. And then, well, we know what happens. If the monster's lucky, she Stares it down like she did the dragon or cockatrice on-screen. If not, she takes it down hard; we've seen her kick a bear at least 20 times her mass into submission, and when sufficiently angry she's been shown to fly faster towing a balloon than Dash does unencumbered outside of a rainboom. After a few encounters, even the dumbest and hungriest of creatures would learn to stay away from her and that peaceful little cottage.

In fact, it's starting to seem like that exaggeratedly shy, delicate, demure little persona we see most of the time is a construct, a carefully controlled mask she uses to prevent herself from going into a rage state and tearing things to shreds. She refuses to talk to dragons and avoids going into the Everfree not because she's afraid of them, but because she knows they're likely to trigger that change into a version of herself that she's afraid of. She hangs out with a brash, confrontational pony like Dash because she knows that her friend will deal with threat so she isn't forced to, and doesn't risk going too far. She avoids conflict with other ponies whenever possible not because she fears them, but because she fears what she might do to them if they make her lose control.

[/crack theories]
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Rafafidi on Sun Jul 01, 2012 9:11 pm

Oh, so Fluttershy is the Hulk now?Rage
I'm ok with that.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Sindri on Sun Jul 01, 2012 9:16 pm

...I'd actually been thinking of Shizuo Heiwajima, but Bruce Banner actually works better. Yeah.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Ki-Tarn on Sun Jul 01, 2012 9:19 pm

Side question, is it just me or is anyone else getting 504 Gateway Time-out's and 502 Bad Gateway's from FimFiction? Was reading the new post of Kippershy's story but now I can't get into the site to continue it.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Ketchup on Sun Jul 01, 2012 9:33 pm

Ki-Tarn wrote:Side question, is it just me or is anyone else getting 504 Gateway Time-out's and 502 Bad Gateway's from FimFiction? Was reading the new post of Kippershy's story but now I can't get into the site to continue it.
Happens occasionally. Not crippling, but annoying.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by RoboRed on Sun Jul 01, 2012 10:25 pm

Yep. I'm getting em' too.

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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by SilentCarto on Sun Jul 01, 2012 11:04 pm

Sindri wrote:In fact, it's starting to seem like that exaggeratedly shy, delicate, demure little persona we see most of the time is a construct, a carefully controlled mask she uses to prevent herself from going into a rage state and tearing things to shreds. She refuses to talk to dragons and avoids going into the Everfree not because she's afraid of them, but because she knows they're likely to trigger that change into a version of herself that she's afraid of. She hangs out with a brash, confrontational pony like Dash because she knows that her friend will deal with threat so she isn't forced to, and doesn't risk going too far. She avoids conflict with other ponies whenever possible not because she fears them, but because she fears what she might do to them if they make her lose control.

[/crack theories]
I don't think this really stands up to testing the negative case. That is to say, does she have any behaviors that don't match this theory? The first that comes to mind is her fear of falling leaves, her shadow, and a blowhard like Gilda. Those events speak to an emotional vulnerability that goes beyond "You wouldn't like me when I'm angry". If she were just holding in the monster, we should see her giving way to others but not acting scared for her own sake.

I think that monsters leave Ponyville alone because ponies are freaking terrifying when they work together. Consider "The Secret of my Excess" -- three Wonderbolts faced down a grown dragon with every expectation of success. In Appleoosa, a small town full of ponies using pies for weapons soundly defeated a large herd of buffalo, each five times their own size. In "Hurricane Fluttershy", the town's pegasi -- no more than a third of the population, and probably significantly less -- were able to create a full-scale tornado, and most of them were not even dedicated weather workers.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Vergil on Sun Jul 01, 2012 11:16 pm

This is a bit early, but my job demands that I be up at the crack of dawn, so I should be asleep already.

Somber, you have my congratulations and my utmost respect on this first anniversary of Project Horizons. 46 chapters in 52 weeks is an amazing accomplishment for any work, let alone one with writing of this caliber. Here's to you, the editors, and your (highly entertaining) readers.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have about 16 hours before I can celebrate Queen Whiskey's birthday properly.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by FeatherDust on Sun Jul 01, 2012 11:22 pm

Hey, okay, new topic.

How did Stable 99's Overmare get infected with the raider virus in the first place?

The reason I ask is, I could swear it's been mentioned more than once that the way to get infected is to eat infected meat. But I'm pretty sure the Overmare didn't do that. So does that mean it's also sexually transmitted?

On one hand, that would make a certain amount of sense from a "disease vector" perspective; rape is obviously one of the behaviors it causes, and assuming the victim isn't killed soon afterward, that would make sense as a method of spreading the disease.

But the issue there is that if it's sexually transmitted, that suggests that raiders' bodily fluids -- blood, in particular -- are saturated with the virus. And if that's the case, well... combat with them is a biohazard! How many times have we seen Blackjack get covered in raider blood? Gyah!
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Sindri on Sun Jul 01, 2012 11:28 pm

FeatherDust wrote:Hey, okay, new topic.

How did Stable 99's Overmare get infected with the raider virus in the first place?

The reason I ask is, I could swear it's been mentioned more than once that the way to get infected is to eat infected meat. But I'm pretty sure the Overmare didn't do that. So does that mean it's also sexually transmitted?

On one hand, that would make a certain amount of sense from a "disease vector" perspective; rape is obviously one of the behaviors it causes, and assuming the victim isn't killed soon afterward, that would make sense as a method of spreading the disease.

But the issue there is that if it's sexually transmitted, that suggests that raiders' bodily fluids -- blood, in particular -- are saturated with the virus. And if that's the case, well... combat with them is a biohazard! How many times have we seen Blackjack get covered in raider blood? Gyah!
It's established to not be sexually transmitted; if it was, Boing would already have gone full raider.

I believe the latest version of the first chapter includes mention of the Overmare biting one of her attackers.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by SilentCarto on Sun Jul 01, 2012 11:34 pm

Sindri wrote:It's established to not be sexually transmitted; if it was, Boing would already have gone full raider.

I believe the latest version of the first chapter includes mention of the Overmare biting one of her attackers.
Biting off one of her attackers, in fact. It's in the dialogue BJ overheard right before she confronted Deus while impersonating Two Bit.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by OneMoreDaySK on Mon Jul 02, 2012 12:00 am

@Sindri Now I feel even more sorry for Boing. Raped, having a friend torn in two, having two possible friends die, and now beaten within an inch of her life.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Kattlarv on Mon Jul 02, 2012 12:01 am

@Everypony: Totally random, but I just lost my first RP character. It was a level 1 duster dwarf in dragon age, through really neat RP-ing, she had become converted to the maker belief. And with her last breath after a ghoul attack trying to protect a village after trying to help the Chantry, she asked the teary apostate mage, with no mana left to donate her possession to the chantry. A bit tired atm due to being 4 am, but that was kind of what happened, I just explain kinda bad atm heh.

As for going with that "moron" that I was in an argument with, they got pissed that I refused to bow to their will, blocked me, and ran off. Will see if they come back, or stay away for now.

@Kipper: Yeah, we can go with that ;D

@Ketchup: I'd need that tap card... or even one that has pay to destroy xP Liquidmetal coating has: "Tap: Target permanent is now an artefact in addition to it's other types.". On a side note, laughed so hard when I played against a counterspell deck, that had 10 untapped mana and put out their legendary "I win" creature, was just about to equip and go all "I win" with a combo, and I played Urza's Rage. They were quite upset hehe. :P

@Robo: Come now, you can't shoot it down if you haven't tried it xD You guys even have your prostate in there unlike ours, yet we seem to get it more, despite the fact you technically even have a reason to like it... and why did I trail the very short step from medicine to probing? Oh 4:30 am me, you so silly.

@Rafa: Badasses? Does cracking a skull with a pipe count? Or what are we doing here? xP

Edit: @OMD: Boing was raped? I don't recall that, I only recall that Scoodle mentioned being raped, or implied being raped... or something like that. But anyhow, with my new technical canon anatomical knowledge, it's not as physically bad any more. Still as mental though.


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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by FeatherDust on Mon Jul 02, 2012 12:08 am

SilentCarto wrote:Biting off one of her attackers, in fact. It's in the dialogue BJ overheard right before she confronted Deus while impersonating Two Bit.
Oh! Oh, okay. I see. I read that just a few minutes before posting my message but missed the implication.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by FeatherDust on Mon Jul 02, 2012 12:19 am

Kattlarv wrote:Edit: @OMD: Boing was raped? I don't recall that, I only recall that Scoodle mentioned being raped, or implied being raped... or something like that.
They all were. It's said late in Ch2 right after the rescue, when Blackjack is feeling bad about being so wimpy about open sky when so much awfulness had happened to the fillies.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by CamoBadger on Mon Jul 02, 2012 12:43 am

A conversation about fights, discipline in children these days, and another that somehow involved prostates? And I MISSED them?!

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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Sindri on Mon Jul 02, 2012 12:55 am

Ice Crystal wrote:I need to come here more often Tilt
Can't argue with that!
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Ketchup on Mon Jul 02, 2012 1:02 am

Kattlarv wrote:@Ketchup: I'd need that tap card... or even one that has pay to destroy xP Liquidmetal coating has: "Tap: Target permanent is now an artefact in addition to it's other types.". On a side note, laughed so hard when I played against a counterspell deck, that had 10 untapped mana and put out their legendary "I win" creature, was just about to equip and go all "I win" with a combo, and I played Urza's Rage. They were quite upset hehe. :P
Sounds like a devastating combo. And never underestimate an opponent with something that can kill you instantly. Unless you have a "counter any" spell. I once was on the verge of victory, and my opponent played a card, dumped all his mana into it, so I'd die. Negate solved the problem. He also likes to use Sanguine's Bond with a few cards, infinite life drain and win against everyone, or spawn 13 3/3 zombies, so I always keep a counter handy. I also once ended up with a -3/21 flying sword. That game was ridiculous.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by WavemasterRyx on Mon Jul 02, 2012 1:26 am

Holy moley... you ponies are so full of words... how many pages since the last time I posted? I'll um... try to catch up if there's anything I can/need to respond to later... and work on the meme-Boo picture for "Watch out, we got a badass in here."

But for right now...
Happy Birthday Project Horizons!
Warning, may cause diabetes and various health problems.:
http://wavemasterryx.tumblr.com/post/26327748898
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by RoboRed on Mon Jul 02, 2012 1:56 am

WavemasterRyx wrote:
But for right now...
Happy Birthday Project Horizons!
Warning, may cause diabetes and various health problems.:
http://wavemasterryx.tumblr.com/post/26327748898
I feel warm and fuzzy inside.

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Mister Frost's friend, "Darren" wrote:"I'm scared to break up with her, though. Her dad's an ex-marine; if I make her cry he'll club me over the head with a pillowcase full of doorknobs and Tom Clancy novels."

Sindri wrote:This is a thread for fans of a fanfiction of a fanfiction about murderous miniature pastel equines in a grimdark post-apocalyptic future.
If you wanted to stay anywhere near socially acceptable, you should have taken a left turn about three layers of WTF back.

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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Overlong Analysis Cobalt on Mon Jul 02, 2012 2:49 am

@Ryx D'aww, so cute! BJ's got extra-cuteness eyes enabled!

@Somber, editors, and the thread at large
Happy birthday, PH! I don't remember the exact date this story and you lot came into my life, but this occasion and date seems as good as any for a small celebration and smiles all around. :) Thanks to all of you for making a sterling story and a stellar... community. Alliteration is hard. Point is, you all rock hard.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Guarddogjr on Mon Jul 02, 2012 3:04 am

WavemasterRyx wrote:Holy moley... you ponies are so full of words... how many pages since the last time I posted? I'll um... try to catch up if there's anything I can/need to respond to later... and work on the meme-Boo picture for "Watch out, we got a badass in here."

But for right now...
Happy Birthday Project Horizons!
Warning, may cause diabetes and various health problems.:
http://wavemasterryx.tumblr.com/post/26327748898

That was adorable, absolutely adorable. Another amazing picture Wave.

@Somber, and the editing time
Happy birthday PH! Here's to an amazing story that just keeps getting better with every chapter.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Kippershy on Mon Jul 02, 2012 3:32 am

iLateralGX wrote:Jeez we got some badasses/violent people here.

Reminds me of the time I punched and knocked out a 1st grader...

Spoiler:
I was a Kindergardener at the time, and he was bullying me. :P

I know my story sounds violent, but I'm not actually a violent person overall.
I can be to protect a friend and I avoid it even in my own defence, bit I wont stand by and be attacked, especially for no other reason then "You're tall, you look strong, lets see how quick you go down."

Yeah, the guy actually said that as he readied the bat at me.


I don't stand down while in a fight until the other person wont be getting back up, because if they can get back up when you're walking away they can hit you from behind.
So... yeah. I made sure he wasn't going to be running at me when I walked, then put him through the agony of a forever fucked up shoulder for trying in the first place.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by WavemasterRyx on Mon Jul 02, 2012 4:53 am

@RoboRed, Overlong Analysis Cobalt, and guarddogr
Thank you all, I'm very glad that you enjoyed the picture.

I'm sorry that I couldn't do the kind of tribute PH really deserves for its first birthday, but I tried my best to make it as cute as possible.

Thank you again to Somber and the editing staff.
*hugs you all*
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Valikdu on Mon Jul 02, 2012 5:27 am

Sindri wrote:In fact, it's starting to seem like that exaggeratedly shy, delicate, demure little persona we see most of the time is a construct, a carefully controlled mask she uses to prevent herself from going into a rage state and tearing things to shreds. She refuses to talk to dragons and avoids going into the Everfree not because she's afraid of them, but because she knows they're likely to trigger that change into a version of herself that she's afraid of. She hangs out with a brash, confrontational pony like Dash because she knows that her friend will deal with threat so she isn't forced to, and doesn't risk going too far. She avoids conflict with other ponies whenever possible not because she fears them, but because she fears what she might do to them if they make her lose control.

One shudders to imagine what inequine thoughts lie behind this mask, what dreams of chronic and sustained cruelty...
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