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Re: Fallout Equestria: Murky Number Seven

Post by Aonee on Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:34 pm

Fuzzy wrote:Given the way they've been giggling over skype lately, I can only sit in dread.

Although they did mention they wanted to take a shot at something involving Glimmerlight.
Prepare yourselves... Maid!MurkyxGlimmerlight is coming.
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Re: Fallout Equestria: Murky Number Seven

Post by Fuzzy on Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:54 pm

Moodyman90 wrote:Back to the actual story, my earlier comment aside I really do love Murky Number Seven. I love the characters, including the ones I HATE. I love the setting, as soul crushing as it can be at times.
And it's always a joy to see a new chapter go up. Like back a few weeks ago when MNS, Heroes, and PH updated the same week. Made it the best birthday present ever.

I'm glad I could have a hand in that. Happy belated Birthday. :)

Aonee wrote:Prepare yourselves... Maid!MurkyxGlimmerlight is coming.

With those two girls plotting (appropriate term...), you never know.
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Post by Aonee on Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:58 pm

Fuzzy wrote:
Aonee wrote:Prepare yourselves... Maid!MurkyxGlimmerlight is coming.

With those two girls plotting (appropriate term...), you never know.
Really? They might be scheming.
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Re: Fallout Equestria: Murky Number Seven

Post by Cptadder on Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:03 pm

Aonee wrote:
Fuzzy wrote:Given the way they've been giggling over skype lately, I can only sit in dread.

Although they did mention they wanted to take a shot at something involving Glimmerlight.
Prepare yourselves... Maid!MurkyxGlimmerlight is coming.
Bah, if that's the best your depths of the Internet can do I say bring it on. Mine eyes have seen horrors beyond count, wonders and terrors to shatter the minds of mere mortals.
And besides the British have a rich tradition of the male senior offices dressing up in drag including French maid uniforms to entertain the troops and keep moral up. And no, outside of the certain regiments not THAT kind of entertaining of the troops.

And as said before, like MN7 the story, hate MN7 the pony. Don't want to hug him, no sympathy for that level of self pity. But hey look on the bright side, remember that special building Protege sent you to, full of raiders and other murderous scum? Good news! They are all (mostly) dead! It means you get to sleep on one of the nicer piles of refuse and you get to spend more time with your adopted Step Dad since he has so fewer bits of raider trash to keep in line, you'll have ever so much fun... well one of you will be having lots of fun at least. At least you'll have Glimmer to keep you company (maybe).
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Re: Fallout Equestria: Murky Number Seven

Post by Aonee on Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:06 pm

At first I was slightly happy with the thought of Murky spending time with Brim, then I remembered Brim escaped and realized who you were actually talking about...


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Re: Fallout Equestria: Murky Number Seven

Post by swicked on Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:06 pm

Fuzzy wrote:Furthermore, I am not sure who it was i nthe PH topic (Swicked I think?) who made a beautiful post about how the story is more about hope than the nightmarish things he goes through. That is precisely what MN7 is about. That little glintof hope that's always inside. Dare to dream, as the story says.

Sometimes it pays to be a poet/philosopher :P
Honestly, there are several types of stories to me. Stories I cannot read, stories I don't want to read, stories I enjoy to read and stories I have to read.
While PH is a very strong enjoy to read, yours is a have to.
As a quick note I'm not saying MN7 is better than PH (it'd be really hard to beat that plot), I'm just saying that it engages me more emotionally than PH does with its characters and undertones.
Hope is my second most favorite theme for a story and it makes me feel really good to read it. Just really earnestly happy. I'm glad my freaking out about how much I loved the story in the PH thread has, in part, resulted in several more readers and future readers, a topic to discuss it in, and sufficient bait to get you to show up.
I have not read the most recent chapter but I really look forward to doing a review of it, assuming you're wanting them? Maybe a reading review. For some reason I think somber once said she particularly appreciated being able to know what was going through the reader's head at every given point.

So yes, thank you for your wonderful story, and again, that whole audio log running-through-the-stable had me on the edge of my seat :D

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Re: Fallout Equestria: Murky Number Seven

Post by Fuzzy on Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:08 pm

Cptadder wrote:And as said before, like MN7 the story, hate MN7 the pony. Don't want to hug him, no sympathy for that level of self pity. But hey look on the bright side, remember that special building Protege sent you to, full of raiders and other murderous scum? Good news! They are all (mostly) dead! It means you get to sleep on one of the nicer piles of refuse and you get to spend more time with your adopted Step Dad since he has so fewer bits of raider trash to keep in line, you'll have ever so much fun... well one of you will be having lots of fun at least. At least you'll have Glimmer to keep you company (maybe).

You really could be writing for the Fillydelphian tourist board pamphlet to returning slaves. :p

swicked wrote:Sometimes it pays to be a poet/philosopher :P
Honestly,
there are several types of stories to me. Stories I cannot read,
stories I don't want to read, stories I enjoy to read and stories I have
to read.
While PH is a very strong enjoy to read, yours is a have to.
As
a quick note I'm not saying MN7 is better than PH (it'd be really hard
to beat that plot), I'm just saying that it engages me more emotionally
than PH does with its characters and undertones.
Hope is my second
most favorite theme for a story and it makes me feel really good to read
it. Just really earnestly happy. I'm glad my freaking out about how
much I loved the story in the PH thread has, in part, resulted in
several more readers and future readers, a topic to discuss it in, and
sufficient bait to get you to show up.
I have not read the most
recent chapter but I really look forward to doing a review of it,
assuming you're wanting them? Maybe a reading review. For some reason I
think somber once said she particularly appreciated being able to know
what was going through the reader's head at every given point.

So
yes, thank you for your wonderful story, and again, that whole audio
log running-through-the-stable had me on the edge of my seat :D

Accursed posting while I'm posting meaning editing and hoping it's seen...

:P

I would be absolutely overjoyed, as I very rarely get that kind of feedback in comment or review form. Chapter 8 especially is a good one for that sort of thing. I would never feel right to directly ask, but if it was something you intended, I would be most grateful. And so too, for the rather wonderful comments, I'm glad it means that much to you. Thank you for recommending it too, I would be a lying author indeed if I said that wasn't awesome to hear!
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Re: Fallout Equestria: Murky Number Seven

Post by tylertoon2 on Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:12 pm

Spoiler:

Some non spoiler-y song lyrics I came up with.
Off-topic: Why is everything in my house screaming in agony? It makes it hard to sing.



Underneath the burning clouds
of the polluting factories
Fillydelphia stands tall
Corrupt and evil as can be

Hunted by doubt
Torn by misery
A Slave under red eye
Number seven he is named



Starving mares
and beaten foals
Toil under watchful gaze

A light from equestria
Lilpip makes her escape!

Shots from the darkness
Chaos it rigns
Swept up in it
He dares to disobey


The Master Spots his victim
The slave seeks his freedom

Failing but still dreaming.
Seeing but not beliving

A stallion haunted by regret
With a lass to protect
A mysterious mare of kindness
who's name he does not know

His future is murkey
Maybe why it's his name.

Not knowing freedom
Forever it seems
Forever
it
seems

Also YAY! Now I know who to direct all my love to!

But seriously. You have lit the same spark in me that Somber, Khat and a few other highly talented writers have. One that makes me shut away family and friends and read for hours on end. One that makes me forget that these are characters and not actual people. And makes me feel a wide variety of intense emotions.

While I must admit during some bits I kinda get a little sick of the pain the characters go through. You manage to keep a state of drama and emotional distress while at the same time squeezing in some tension breaking pitch black humor.
(One of the best examples is when the Shades have Murky and are trying to figure out ways to torture him. The Comic relief is at the perfect amount which calms the scene a touch just to ramp it up a second latter.)

That is not saying you have made a mistake here or there. I feel like you don't throw the dog (in this case Murkey) A bone enough to make the suffering you put on him seem believable. But remember this is one thing that Somber struggles with and we all know how great he is.

I wish I could offer you more. I REALLY REALLY WANT TO. But I just don't have the mind to really articulate into words exactly what I want to say about this story. But I will say that this deserves it's own page on equestria daily and a much larger audience among other things.

Anyway my teeth are clattering at the next update.

AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS!!!!! Pinkie Pie
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Re: Fallout Equestria: Murky Number Seven

Post by tylertoon2 on Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:20 pm

Maid Murkey



This is simultaneously really sad, really cute, and really funny.
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Re: Fallout Equestria: Murky Number Seven

Post by swicked on Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:21 pm

Fuzzy wrote:I would be absolutely overjoyed, as I very rarely get that kind of feedback in comment or review form. Chapter 8 especially is a good one for that sort of thing. I would never feel right to directly ask, but if it was something you intended, I would be most grateful. And so too, for the rather wonderful comments, I'm glad it means that much to you. Thank you for recommending it too, I would be a lying author indeed if I said that wasn't awesome to hear!

ask ask ask ask ask

I like it when people ask me to do things. It makes me feel useful.
To answer questions, to make jokes, to glub glub incoherently like some sort of land-bound fish.
I could chew on my sock while reciting the russian national anthem, if you like. Backwards.

I've suddenly forgotten what I was talking about.

Anyway, it would be my pleasure to help in any way with a fic that's made me this happy :)

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Re: Fallout Equestria: Murky Number Seven

Post by Moodyman90 on Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:22 pm

Well, of what I call the Big Four of Fallout Equestria (Original, Project Horizons, Pink Eye, and Heroes) I can see Murky Number Seven joining their ranks.

Granted, there's quite a few other stories I haven't read, but at least for me MNS will always be in my personal Top Five.
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Re: Fallout Equestria: Murky Number Seven

Post by Aonee on Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:23 pm

swicked wrote:I could chew on my sock while reciting the russian national anthem, if you like. Backwards.
Please post a video of this. It would make my day every time I see it.
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Re: Fallout Equestria: Murky Number Seven

Post by Fuzzy on Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:25 pm

tylertoon2 wrote:
Spoiler:

Some non spoiler-y song lyrics I came up with.
Off-topic: Why is everything in my house screaming in agony? It makes it hard to sing.



Underneath the burning clouds
of the polluting factories
Fillydelphia stands tall
Corrupt and evil as can be

Hunted by doubt
Torn by misery
A Slave under red eye
Number seven he is named



Starving mares
and beaten foals
Toil under watchful gaze

A light from equestria
Lilpip makes her escape!

Shots from the darkness
Chaos it rigns
Swept up in it
He dares to disobey


The Master Spots his victim
The slave seeks his freedom

Failing but still dreaming.
Seeing but not beliving

A stallion haunted by regret
With a lass to protect
A mysterious mare of kindness
who's name he does not know

His future is murkey
Maybe why it's his name.

Not knowing freedom
Forever it seems
Forever
it
seems

Also YAY! Now I know who to direct all my love to!

But seriously. You have lit the same spark in me that Somber, Khat and a few other highly talented writers have. One that makes me shut away family and friends and read for hours on end. One that makes me forget that these are characters and not actual people. And makes me feel a wide variety of intense emotions.

While I must admit during some bits I kinda get a little sick of the pain the characters go through. You manage to keep a state of drama and emotional distress while at the same time squeezing in some tension breaking pitch black humor.
(One of the best examples is when the Shades have Murky and are trying to figure out ways to torture him. The Comic relief is at the perfect amount which calms the scene a touch just to ramp it up a second latter.)

That is not saying you have made a mistake here or there. I feel like you don't throw the dog (in this case Murkey) A bone enough to make the suffering you put on him seem believable. But remember this is one thing that Somber struggles with and we all know how great he is.

I wish I could offer you more. I REALLY REALLY WANT TO. But I just don't have the mind to really articulate into words exactly what I want to say about this story. But I will say that this deserves it's own page on equestria daily and a much larger audience among other things.

Anyway my teeth are clattering at the next update.

I believe I understand what you mean about throwing the odd bone to him, it's something I learned throughout perhaps the first eight or so chapters, that against all predictable logic, the odd source of good can help accentuate the bad in a sort of "peaks and troughs" manner. So we'll see how it changes in nine onwards from when I began to hear that feedback a little. Thanks for re-noting it though, it's always handy to have something reiterated.

I'm so glad the story is reaching you as it is, makes a lot of the toil on a keyboard feel worth it in the end to hear people enjoying it. Specifically about the characters, they really were my biggest source of "ahead planning" to get their attitudes and personalities all correct and consistent. To hear that works for you is a big relief!

swicked wrote:ask ask ask ask ask

I like it when people ask me to do things. It makes me feel useful.
To answer questions, to make jokes, to glub glub incoherently like some sort of land-bound fish.
I could chew on my sock while reciting the russian national anthem, if you like. Backwards.

I've suddenly forgotten what I was talking about.

Anyway, it would be my pleasure to help in any way with a fic that's made me this happy :)

Well, I'd be delighted to see it when you read through. The review that is. I think the sock chewing Russian singing would be better appreciated by the sister-fandom of the Metro series.

Moodyman90 wrote:Well, of what I call the Big Four of Fallout
Equestria (Original, Project Horizons, Pink Eye, and Heroes) I can see
Murky Number Seven joining their ranks.

Granted, there's quite a
few other stories I haven't read, but at least for me MNS will always be
in my personal Top Five.

That honestly means a lot to hear from someone, as well as from tyler above as well. Thank you.
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Re: Fallout Equestria: Murky Number Seven

Post by swicked on Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:27 pm

Bah, Pink Eyes. No offense to... I don't remember who wrote it. I'm bad with names. Anyway, no offense to him, but Murky is a much cuter and more consistent character than puppysmiles and I've never felt driven to skim any parts of MN7 due to it getting boring or aggravating.

I would currently put it down as PH being #1, original being #2 and MN7 being #3. I have been reading heroes and I just wouldn't put it above this awesome fic :P

...not to start some sort of fandom war or anything...

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Re: Fallout Equestria: Murky Number Seven

Post by OneMoreDaySK on Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:36 pm

Oh hi Fuzzy! Love your story, and hope some more of the PHCC also comment here.
Also, that's a lot of caps for a slave that is relatively useless, i.e. not smart/strong. This to mee seems like Protoge really caring about Murk, especially with the sad logic of Murky needing to stay there, at least for medical treatment. Hope sooner or later he stands up to Shackles. Also agree with the open shackles comment, it's a matter of perspective.

So right now Murk is heading back to Filly, Sunny is going there as well, Glimmer is most likely back there already, Brimstone is heading back, and the nice mare is somewhere still there with boyfriend.
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Re: Fallout Equestria: Murky Number Seven

Post by tylertoon2 on Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:42 pm

swicked wrote:Bah, Pink Eyes. No offense to... I don't remember who wrote it. I'm bad with names. Anyway, no offense to him, but Murky is a much cuter and more consistent character than puppysmiles and I've never felt driven to skim any parts of MN7 due to it getting boring or aggravating.

I would currently put it down as PH being #1, original being #2 and MN7 being #3. I have been reading heroes and I just wouldn't put it above this awesome fic :P

...not to start some sort of fandom war or anything...

Eh I liked pink eyes definitely one of the better FOE fics. The Style of the fic really reminded me of the first few times I played Fallout 3 and New Vegas with friends, Easy mode making me nearly unkillable, Wandering around killing stuff. Doing no side-quests. Paying no attention to the plot, making decisions based solely around how fun they sounded.


The whole thing was good nostalgia aside from that, it was unique being a lot lighter and softer than FOE a direction most of the stunning FOE fics didn't go.
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Re: Fallout Equestria: Murky Number Seven

Post by Moodyman90 on Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:56 pm

What I think Pink Eye did for me was pull of the soul crushing story and a mostly happy go lucky way. If you actually thought about the story and the characters it was sad as hell but for the most part it wasn't presented that way.

Also the innocent nature of Puppysmiles distracted me from the whole "she's a protagonist in a Fallout Equestria story, bad stuff is going to happen." like most of the other stories have going for them.
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Re: Fallout Equestria: Murky Number Seven

Post by Cptadder on Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:03 am

Fuzzy wrote:[
You really could be writing for the Fillydelphian tourist board pamphlet to returning slaves. :p
If ever your in Indiana, stop by our beautiful and historic national parks, you might just find me credited as a writer in some of the pamphlets... or not it's been a decade since those got distributed.

For the full effect you want the music from this Youtube video

Welcome to Fillydelphia!
A City of rich Tradition, a City of the Future
(Long distance panning shot of the City, artfully shot to hide the smog and angled at sunrise to hide the glow of the taint trench)
Here at the Fillydelphia Tourism board it's our purpose to show why we had thousands of new immigrants flocking to our great city every year and why you might want to join them!
(Workers in various factories who have been recently scrubbed and cleaned before going on camera, only the fittest and cleanest are visible in focus and the guards are out of frame)
Here in this growing Metropolis built on the bones of Old Fillydelphia we have a bustling city of tens of thousands of ponies of all coats working together to build a brighter tomorrow.
(More shots of smiling ponies but walking the streets, storekeepers, city life and a lingering shot of workers looking over plans in a half finished construction site)
How is such a marvel possible you might ask in this harsh Wasteland in which we all live you might ask?
(Fad to black giant question mark)
Simple, through the poise, drive and vision of one pony, the leader of Fillydelphia none other than Red Eye himself
(Shot of Red Eye addressing crowds, only the first row in visible as Red Eye is front and center the focus)
----Insert one of Red eye's speeches here from FoE------
But no leader rules alone and no leader can rule without peace and security for his ponies. Providing that security is Red Eye's strong right hoof and head of the Fillydelphia Security Forces, Stern.
(Short interview with Stern, introducing the various heads of security, a quick story about Stern saving ponies from some attack)
(Cut to another long range shot of Fillydelphia)
With our leadership well in hand, and our security assured by Stern and her FSF (Note self better name, gotta be catchy when written short-hand) our city is free to prosper. With unemployment near zero percent no Fillydelphia resident need bed for scraps, there is work for all in Filldelphia.
(Shots of various groups of ponies posing for photos)
Have medical training? Fillydelphia might be safe but in any gowning city there are always injuries, if medicine is your passion there are several fine Fillydelphia hospitals with all the old world tools and class looking to hire new nurses and doctor ponies. Want to learn medicine? The Red Eye Institute of the Pony sciences has a full medical program for those of you with the drive and the caps.
(Shots of the entrances of various hospitals with good framing, a smiling pony in a bed with a beaming nurse at his side)

......I could go on, I had promo ideas for Red Eye's factory workers, his security forces, his maintenance groups and his cleanup crews (Read:Scavangers in the pit and elsewhere in the city)
But how far can one man go for a joke? About thirty minutes before he remembers it was a joke and if he was doing it for real he'd take this into work and bounce ideas off people for a week before handing it over for copy editing then getting it back in a few days for cleanup and language tweaks before running it by legal and sending it out to the printers after final draft check by the bosses boss.
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Re: Fallout Equestria: Murky Number Seven

Post by Derpmind on Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:12 am

Fuzzy wrote:
Moodyman90 wrote:Well, of what I call the Big Four of Fallout
Equestria (Original, Project Horizons, Pink Eye, and Heroes) I can see
Murky Number Seven joining their ranks.

Granted, there's quite a
few other stories I haven't read, but at least for me MNS will always be
in my personal Top Five.

That honestly means a lot to hear from someone, as well as from tyler above as well. Thank you.
In that case, you deserve to hear more of it: I personally don't make numbered lists, and as fun as it is to argue the nitty gritty details of plot or characterization when comparing, say, PH to the original in an attempt to prove which is number one, I prefer to look at a different way: Your story is at what I call the transcendent tier of fanfiction: Not only is it a story of exceptional in most every regards, but you have created something unique and new from that which has inspired you. So when I say you're at the same level of writing as Somber and Kkat, I mean it. I would say the same thing with sincere honesty had I only read the first chapter, and just like the two authors above your writing has only improved since.


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Re: Fallout Equestria: Murky Number Seven

Post by Moodyman90 on Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:15 am

I mainly call those the Big Four is last I checked those where the only ones with their own pages in EqD. And of those only Heroes doesn't have a TV Tropes page.

I know there are people who hate TV Tropes but if it wasn't for that site I would never have found out about Fallout Equestria in the first place.
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Re: Fallout Equestria: Murky Number Seven

Post by swicked on Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:28 am

Fuzzy wrote:Furthermore, I am not sure who it was i nthe PH topic (Swicked I think?) who made a beautiful post about how the story is more about hope than the nightmarish things he goes through. That is precisely what MN7 is about. That little glintof hope that's always inside. Dare to dream, as the story says.

This may sound arrogant but, if you liked that post (or any others I did in that conversation), feel free to use any or all of it in order to promote your fic, even if it's just in response to one person asking the basic question of "Why should I read this?"
I'm serious when I say you had me hooked pages in. I don't remember a story ever doing that before, published or no. It's crazy and I love it XD

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Re: Fallout Equestria: Murky Number Seven

Post by Fuzzy on Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:24 am

I had contemplated doing a "quotes" page at once for a laugh after being linked to a post on /mlp/ which described the following.

"FO:E is the high drama blockbuster with a brain.

PH is the over the top action flick with some depth.

...MN7 is like the independant French foreign student's magnum opus..."

To this day I have no idea if it's a compliment or not, but it's hilarious anyway. If I ever set up such a quotes page, I'd likely only use it for deadpan self depreciation to make people laugh, I think.
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Post by Cptadder on Tue Jun 19, 2012 9:03 am

Fuzzy wrote:I had contemplated doing a "quotes" page at once for a laugh after being linked to a post on /mlp/ which described the following.

"FO:E is the high drama blockbuster with a brain.

PH is the over the top action flick with some depth.

...MN7 is like the independant French foreign student's magnum opus..."

To this day I have no idea if it's a compliment or not, but it's hilarious anyway. If I ever set up such a quotes page, I'd likely only use it for deadpan self depreciation to make people laugh, I think.
There's nearly enough random naked people, bad lighting or long scenes where nothing happens for a student film. Bad lighting I've learned is a hallmark of a student film no matter the generation or country.
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Post by Derpmind on Tue Jun 19, 2012 10:00 am

Cptadder wrote:There's nearly enough random naked people, bad lighting or long scenes where nothing happens for a student film. Bad lighting I've learned is a hallmark of a student film no matter the generation or country.
"All our actors are almost always completely naked. Also, all our actors are Ponies."
I don't even wanna guess what kind of universe that quote would actually come from.
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Post by Valikdu on Tue Jun 19, 2012 1:33 pm

The resolution of ch8... Did not see that coming

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And only a small part of this is due to Doc Mitchell being a good guy in Fo:NV. Yes, the fic character not only lulled Murky into a false sense of security, he did so with me as well.

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This should end with a "Would you like to know more?"
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Post by Aonee on Tue Jun 19, 2012 8:32 pm

Fuzzy, I saw what you posted on your tumblr.
Whatisthisidonteven
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Post by Fuzzy on Tue Jun 19, 2012 10:00 pm

Aonee wrote:Fuzzy, I saw what you posted on your tumblr.
Whatisthisidonteven

Believe me, I am in the same boat.
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Post by Aonee on Tue Jun 19, 2012 10:02 pm

Fuzzy wrote:
Aonee wrote:Fuzzy, I saw what you posted on your tumblr.
Whatisthisidonteven

Believe me, I am in the same boat.
Now all we have to do is make sure it doesn't drop on Security.... Speaking of which, I wonder how Murky would feel about her. Is the notasmart pony going to be mentioned to him ever?
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Post by Fuzzy on Tue Jun 19, 2012 10:04 pm

Aonee wrote:
Fuzzy wrote:
Aonee wrote:Fuzzy, I saw what you posted on your tumblr.
Whatisthisidonteven

Believe me, I am in the same boat.
Now all we have to do is make sure it doesn't drop on Security.... Speaking of which, I wonder how Murky would feel about her. Is the notasmart pony going to be mentioned to him ever?

Well, Chapter 2 had a little cheeky poke at Blackjack in it. I doubt I will ever give a direct canon name reference, but I wouldn't be surprised if DJ-Pon3 at some point made a little Hoofington reference. To be honest, references aren't something I place a huge amount of value in, personally. But if it makes for a nice subtle tilt of the head, I prefer that so much more.
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Re: Fallout Equestria: Murky Number Seven

Post by Derpmind on Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:35 pm

References for reference's sake is no better than throwing memes all over a story. When working within the same ~verse however, done well you can make your story and the world have little bits of interconnectedness that make everything more immersive and believable; 'realistic' in a way. The occasional radio broadcast that mentions 'Security' can't possibly snap anyone out of the story of the FoE~verse, whereas some people find the occasional 20% cooler to completely throw them out of the reading mindset for a few sentences. Only some people have such strong reactions to one instance, but I think that stories that throw out multiple memes or completely random references too often tend to suffer for it. (PH only occasionally makes 'references', and those tend to be hilarious, so it all depends I guess.) Still no reason not to enrich things with the occasional actually well-executed universe tie-ins.

Then there's having Murky meeting a character of another fic, which is completely different. Project Horizons spoiler (not that everyone here hasn't read it)
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I think there were a couple people who didn't like Blackjack meeting Littlepip, but most everyone loved the socks off of those two chapters. No reason you couldn't consider Murky meeting a character from FoE, even if only after FoE's ending.
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