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Post by SilentCarto on Fri Jun 03, 2016 6:41 pm

Homelands Ch. 7 Commentary:

She’d never truly understood her dad’s frustration with Blackjack until she moved in with Vicious.
As psycho as Vicious is, at least you know where you stand with her. If she's got a problem with you, she'll smash your face, not snipe and undermine.

Hopefully she’d be too spent to try and ‘fool around’ with her for a few weeks after this.
Still psycho, though. This is... uncomfortable, to say the least, though I admit not the most uncomfortable situation Scotch has ever been in.

“Pick up a mask or something if you can,” Vicious yelled.  “Trust me.  Masks are a must!”
I'm not sure how useful masks are when you're color coded, but anyway.

Kirin dao
This answers a question I had a couple chapters ago. Neat!

Enclave dissidents who’d foolishly thought the zebra lands were safer than the Equestrian surface.
Oh, interesting. I wonder whether they're branded as Dashites or if they could slip away to Zebrinica without so much fanfare.

She saw a zebra mare with one hind leg ending in a chitinous, spiny black insectoid foot.
I'll grant, if you've had something shot off, this beats several of the alternatives.

I wonder if they run off of blood sugar or if you have to feed them Carnico brand Symbiont Chow. Surely they must link into the host's circulatory system to get oxygen and reject waste. Otherwise this mare would have to avoid standing in water for too long, and periodically go outside to walk her foot...

Yeah, I'm over-thinking this.

“You!  Pony!  Your hide is soft!  Have hide of dragon!” called one, pointing with a crab claw ‘arm’ to a scaly purple sheet hanging in bubbling fluid.  “Become invincible!”

She had a friend already with that.
And "invincible" is stretching it rather a lot.

She paused as she felt the hairs on her back rise, and her normal impulse to just trot up transformed into caution.  She slipped off to the side, moving along the fence line to one of the smaller doors around the side.  That tingling, sickly sensation rose as she reached one of the fire doors also kept propped open for ventilation.
This is remarkably specific for a 'bad feeling'. I'm going to ascribe it to spirits.

She spotted a large brown rat shuffling into sight, emerging from under a wreck.  It rose on its hind legs and sniffed as it blinked its oily eyes at her.  There were voices inside, Xarius’s ghoulish croak the most notable.  She lifted a hoof to her lips, making a shushing motion at the bold rat.
I swear, Somber, if that rat's name turns out to be Jenkin...

“I was just here for my pay for this week and I didn’t want to interrupt!”  She gestured at her backside.  “That was just… weird luck.”

“Luck,” Tchernobog said evenly, “would not have evaded my watchers.”
Okay, weird skill then?!

“Well, yeah,” she said slowly.  “No horn, so I can’t make them, but I know standard service and maintenance. Things like adjusting the calipers and cleaning.  Nothing big.  Why?”

“Just good to know.”
Hmm. So she would know how to sabotage them, too...

He tugged out a chilled glass and a bottle of something that smelled like turpentine, filled the glass halfway up with Lucky Stripe and the solvent, and pushed the half-empty bottle of soda to her.
I love that Scotch thinks of rotgut as 'solvent'.

A degree from the Propoli Institute of Technology.
I'm not sure I'd be proud of a diploma from the PIT.

(I know, it's probably actually something more like "Instituto Propoli di Tecnologia".)

And alicorns?  Here?  That was as crazy as wandering megaspells in Equestria.
Huh. Funny to think that the alicorns might be familiar with Scotch.

...I'm not sure whether I want the purple to be Psalm or not...

He reached into his drawer and pulled out a mask of polished metal.  It had a wrench symbol across its brow and math formulas for pressure, velocity, and acceleration around the eye holes.  Along the top was a fine wire mesh decorated with brass nuts and bolts.
Oh, I like it.

She thought for a moment she glimpsed something pale and shiny skitter along the side of the refrigerator, but it disappeared out of sight behind it a second later.
That's interesting... one of Tchernobog's watchers, or a metal spirit? And is this a sign of her growing shaman powers, or is the mask special? Or perhaps participating in a holiday ritual naturally draws one closer to the spirit world...

Some zebras left little trinkets at the bases of certain honored capstones, like the 91st ‘Glorious’ Caesar, who had wed Princess Celestia and whose capstone always had three or four gold coins on it.  He apparently hadn’t been the only one, as the 127th, 138th, 179th, and 199th all had Celestia’s sunburst carefully carved to the left of the Caesar’s mark.
That sounds much better than a nuclear war. Can we get a redo?

“Exactly!” she said as she jabbed Scotch’s chest.  “It was new.  That Lightbringer started it.  For the first time ever, I started seeing futures that weren’t complete nightmares.  Oh, plenty were still lousy.  Most, maybe.  But…”  She paused and shook her head, looking stricken a moment.  “Then Blackjack did her thing and… yeah!  It looked even better.  Like this dark veil was pulled off Equus.  Like maybe we were past the bad times.  But then I read that stupid letter about that stupid eye, and since then everything’s been dimming.  It wasn’t so bad while we were moving, but since we stopped here it’s like everything is drowning and I’m the only one who seems to care!”
Wow. That was a remarkably moving speech.

Others dyed their white stripes brilliant hues or painted their black stripes a riot of colors.
Fruit Stripe Gum!

“Only shamans should wear masks,” Aleta said primly.
Iiiinteresting. Sounds like wearing a mask on Bacchanalia does draw you closer to the spirit world.

“She’s Majina’s aunt.  She’s a ‘sunstripe’ or some such.  Apparently Princess Celestia was her great great great great grandmother or something.”
Huh! I thought zonies were supposed to be sterile...

“It’s not possible.  The Last Caesar was indeed mad, mad with power and hatred.  Why else would he burn the world with balefire?”  Errukine returned Pythia’s frown.  “I assure you that whatever you have read, it cannot be so.  It would be unthinkable.”
Again with the zebras and the "impossible". Maybe an ant can't meaningfully interact with a pony, but an anthill sure can. And Twilight Sparkle had a spell for turning gravity sideways, so I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss the idea of manipulating fundamental forces. Hell, if the Eye is everywhere, then maybe the blinding is a temporary, localized effect that can be controlled -- like, say, that thing that happened at the end of last chapter. If you can do that, you just need a big enough power source to extend the effect to the whole planet just long enough to wipe out all life.

“I am Maximillian, your servant of ceremonies.”
Heh, clever.

“Such is the result when profit and charity collide.”
Oh, I dunno. A certain filly managed to make it work.

“I have the ability, but it would be like a pegasus giving a prayer to the sky at an earth pony ceremony.”
...okay, you have no idea how ponies work, do you.

Dead silence.  Then Scotch Tape heard a sound like rushing wind.  Then a wave swept across the bridge from the east and the west, the gust not stirring a single hair or flame or bit of cloth, but everyone started as it passed over them.  The waves met together at Scotch and fountained up around her with a strange shimmering of light that spread out.  A sense of safety and belonging passed through her as she stood there in the center.
Well then. Guess it's all out in the open now.

Then Scotch saw the red bar.

She ducked, and the canvas of the stage indented as the bullet pierced it near where she stood.
Welp. Time to go.

I think that was the first pony opening a Bacchanalia since Princess Celestia herself!
Well... that's a thing. Does that imply that Celestia had some shamanistic powers, or was she just the guest speaker like Cecelio?

Also, cough.

Princess Celestia was fond of Bacchanalia and attended several.
Cough!

He drew himself up and pressed a claw to his chest.  “Call me… Skylord.”
Oh, god. The way he presents that... his real name wouldn't happen to be some variation on "Peter Quill", would it?

Scotch gave a half smile.  “Well, you’re a good Froommate too,” she said with a playful nudge.
Oh god so cute...

“Tchernobog’s got me on a leash.  Besides, don’t want to.  Rice River is a nice place to live.  Food.  Work.  Sex.  I’ve been elsewhere.  It gets worse.  Lots worse.”
She strikes me less as "all the bad parts of Blackjack" and more as a close cousin to Rampage.

“Stop planning to kill me,” Pythia said behind them, and Scotch looked down at the cloaked filly, then at Vicious.
LOL. So awesome.

“I hate seers,” Vicious muttered.
But they're so much fun!

“You’re going to die out there,” Vicious said, pulling back.  “You’re going to die, and I can’t kill hunger and thirst, and there’s no fun in juicing the ghoul or raider that’s dumb enough to eat you.”  She slowly started to trot away.  “Vega was right.  I shouldn’t have cared,” she said as she departed.  “Sleep somewhere else, Scotch.”
I feel a little sorry for Vicious, but she's also showing some codependence I don't like. As if Scotch were never going to grow up or pursue her own future.

“Wait.  Are you saying you set that up to get me kicked out of where I was living?  So I’d go with you?”

Pythia blinked and pushed the hoof aside.  “Well, duh.  Obviously.”
*sigh* Dick move, but I can't exactly blame her.

She hooked a hoof, and the rat let out a panicked squeal as it lifted off the ground and floated before her.  “Starkatteri filth,” she declared, then brought her hooves together in a powerful blow.  The rat popped like a balloon into cloud of white vapor that spread out and disappeared.
Oh, so THAT was one of Tchernobog's watchers...

Oh... oh! She shushed the rat, and it obeyed the order!

“You’re not taking her anywhere,” a voice growled from above.  All eyes went up to where Skylord crouched atop the dumpling stall, a pistol clutched in each talon.  “Get your hooves off the filly.”

“Who are you?” Desideria said, glaring up at him.

“I’m the one pointing a gun at your head, fatso,” the rusty brown griffon growled gruffly.  “The name’s Skylord.  Now let her go.”
So Peter Quill. In my head, he's totally played by Chris Pratt now.

“This is Rice River. This is my place of power,” Desideria said, glaring at the pair.

“It is?” Errukine countered, as if surprised by this information.  “As I recall, you did not invoke or invite the spirits to this festival.  You are, technically, just as much a guest as we are.”
Oh... oh shit. So for the duration, the festival is Scotch's sanctum.

“Yeah, well… that shaman annoyed me,” Pythia muttered.
Tsunkatteri.

From out of the crowd emerged Precious with a quartet of rice boxes held in a curl of her tail.  She glanced over at the gathered people and asked brightly, “Hi, girls.  Did I miss anything?”
*facepalm*

...okay, Pythia, start talking now while you have the chance.

All the while, Tchernobog and Errukine followed like a pair of parents, talking in low voices as the four enjoyed themselves.
It's good to see another shaman who doesn't treat Starkatteri like they have the plague.

Worse, though, was the black ichor that seemed to drip like oil off their bodies and onto the stones.
...
The mare’s water-ruined mane and smeared makeup made her appear quite deranged as she approached Maximillian, trying to step carefully to avoid the sludge that pooled under the legionnaires.
...
Despite her efforts, the black ichor was smeared against her hide like her runny makeup.
...
A mare stood beside him, wearing a military uniform stained and spotted with the dark blotches.
...
The top hatch of the tank popped open, and a roiling black toxic fog poured out and spread across the plaza.  From the interior emerged a zebra soaked black in the foul ichor.
I wonder... maybe being in her (temporary) place of power is enhancing Scotch's spirit senses?

Then they hauled something from the back of the truck.  Something large, purple, feathered, and bloody.  His soldiers dragged out the body and threw it down before the crowd.

A slain purple alicorn.
I most emphatically do not hope that's Psalm.

“Come with me,” Tchernobog stated.  “You’re wanted at Carnico.”
That is, quite frankly, far better than the alternative. I don't trust Carnico any farther than I can throw their factory, but "can't trust" is a damn sight better than "likely to kill on sight".

Hopefully it doesn't feel like filler.
...this was filler?
Oh. I guess so. I hadn't actually noticed. So, ah, no, it didn't. :D


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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Somber on Fri Jun 03, 2016 6:44 pm

Hee, very nice.  And people should know by now: if there's ever a party, it's a prelude to something bad happening in somberworld.
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Post by SilentCarto on Fri Jun 03, 2016 6:51 pm

I think that's kinda just fiction in general, really.
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Post by Kattlarv on Sat Jun 04, 2016 10:28 am

Heh, found a character named "Scoodles" in a game. Kinda makes me wonder how spread some of the names are :P
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Icy Shake on Sat Jun 04, 2016 9:09 pm

SilentCarto wrote:
Homelands Ch. 7 Commentary:

She’d never truly understood her dad’s frustration with Blackjack until she moved in with Vicious.
As psycho as Vicious is, at least you know where you stand with her. If she's got a problem with you, she'll smash your face, not snipe and undermine.

Hopefully she’d be too spent to try and ‘fool around’ with her for a few weeks after this.
Still psycho, though. This is... uncomfortable, to say the least, though I admit not the most uncomfortable situation Scotch has ever been in.

“Pick up a mask or something if you can,” Vicious yelled.  “Trust me.  Masks are a must!”
I'm not sure how useful masks are when you're color coded, but anyway.

Kirin dao
This answers a question I had a couple chapters ago. Neat!

Enclave dissidents who’d foolishly thought the zebra lands were safer than the Equestrian surface.
Oh, interesting. I wonder whether they're branded as Dashites or if they could slip away to Zebrinica without so much fanfare.

She saw a zebra mare with one hind leg ending in a chitinous, spiny black insectoid foot.
I'll grant, if you've had something shot off, this beats several of the alternatives.

I wonder if they run off of blood sugar or if you have to feed them Carnico brand Symbiont Chow. Surely they must link into the host's circulatory system to get oxygen and reject waste. Otherwise this mare would have to avoid standing in water for too long, and periodically go outside to walk her foot...

Yeah, I'm over-thinking this.

“You!  Pony!  Your hide is soft!  Have hide of dragon!” called one, pointing with a crab claw ‘arm’ to a scaly purple sheet hanging in bubbling fluid.  “Become invincible!”

She had a friend already with that.
And "invincible" is stretching it rather a lot.

She paused as she felt the hairs on her back rise, and her normal impulse to just trot up transformed into caution.  She slipped off to the side, moving along the fence line to one of the smaller doors around the side.  That tingling, sickly sensation rose as she reached one of the fire doors also kept propped open for ventilation.
This is remarkably specific for a 'bad feeling'. I'm going to ascribe it to spirits.

She spotted a large brown rat shuffling into sight, emerging from under a wreck.  It rose on its hind legs and sniffed as it blinked its oily eyes at her.  There were voices inside, Xarius’s ghoulish croak the most notable.  She lifted a hoof to her lips, making a shushing motion at the bold rat.
I swear, Somber, if that rat's name turns out to be Jenkin...

“I was just here for my pay for this week and I didn’t want to interrupt!”  She gestured at her backside.  “That was just… weird luck.”

“Luck,” Tchernobog said evenly, “would not have evaded my watchers.”
Okay, weird skill then?!

“Well, yeah,” she said slowly.  “No horn, so I can’t make them, but I know standard service and maintenance. Things like adjusting the calipers and cleaning.  Nothing big.  Why?”

“Just good to know.”
Hmm. So she would know how to sabotage them, too...

He tugged out a chilled glass and a bottle of something that smelled like turpentine, filled the glass halfway up with Lucky Stripe and the solvent, and pushed the half-empty bottle of soda to her.
I love that Scotch thinks of rotgut as 'solvent'.

A degree from the Propoli Institute of Technology.
I'm not sure I'd be proud of a diploma from the PIT.

(I know, it's probably actually something more like "Instituto Propoli di Tecnologia".)

And alicorns?  Here?  That was as crazy as wandering megaspells in Equestria.
Huh. Funny to think that the alicorns might be familiar with Scotch.

...I'm not sure whether I want the purple to be Psalm or not...

He reached into his drawer and pulled out a mask of polished metal.  It had a wrench symbol across its brow and math formulas for pressure, velocity, and acceleration around the eye holes.  Along the top was a fine wire mesh decorated with brass nuts and bolts.
Oh, I like it.

She thought for a moment she glimpsed something pale and shiny skitter along the side of the refrigerator, but it disappeared out of sight behind it a second later.
That's interesting... one of Tchernobog's watchers, or a metal spirit? And is this a sign of her growing shaman powers, or is the mask special? Or perhaps participating in a holiday ritual naturally draws one closer to the spirit world...

Some zebras left little trinkets at the bases of certain honored capstones, like the 91st ‘Glorious’ Caesar, who had wed Princess Celestia and whose capstone always had three or four gold coins on it.  He apparently hadn’t been the only one, as the 127th, 138th, 179th, and 199th all had Celestia’s sunburst carefully carved to the left of the Caesar’s mark.
That sounds much better than a nuclear war. Can we get a redo?

“Exactly!” she said as she jabbed Scotch’s chest.  “It was new.  That Lightbringer started it.  For the first time ever, I started seeing futures that weren’t complete nightmares.  Oh, plenty were still lousy.  Most, maybe.  But…”  She paused and shook her head, looking stricken a moment.  “Then Blackjack did her thing and… yeah!  It looked even better.  Like this dark veil was pulled off Equus.  Like maybe we were past the bad times.  But then I read that stupid letter about that stupid eye, and since then everything’s been dimming.  It wasn’t so bad while we were moving, but since we stopped here it’s like everything is drowning and I’m the only one who seems to care!”
Wow. That was a remarkably moving speech.

Others dyed their white stripes brilliant hues or painted their black stripes a riot of colors.
Fruit Stripe Gum!

“Only shamans should wear masks,” Aleta said primly.
Iiiinteresting. Sounds like wearing a mask on Bacchanalia does draw you closer to the spirit world.

“She’s Majina’s aunt.  She’s a ‘sunstripe’ or some such.  Apparently Princess Celestia was her great great great great grandmother or something.”
Huh! I thought zonies were supposed to be sterile...

“It’s not possible.  The Last Caesar was indeed mad, mad with power and hatred.  Why else would he burn the world with balefire?”  Errukine returned Pythia’s frown.  “I assure you that whatever you have read, it cannot be so.  It would be unthinkable.”
Again with the zebras and the "impossible". Maybe an ant can't meaningfully interact with a pony, but an anthill sure can. And Twilight Sparkle had a spell for turning gravity sideways, so I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss the idea of manipulating fundamental forces. Hell, if the Eye is everywhere, then maybe the blinding is a temporary, localized effect that can be controlled -- like, say, that thing that happened at the end of last chapter. If you can do that, you just need a big enough power source to extend the effect to the whole planet just long enough to wipe out all life.

“I am Maximillian, your servant of ceremonies.”
Heh, clever.

“Such is the result when profit and charity collide.”
Oh, I dunno. A certain filly managed to make it work.

“I have the ability, but it would be like a pegasus giving a prayer to the sky at an earth pony ceremony.”
...okay, you have no idea how ponies work, do you.

Dead silence.  Then Scotch Tape heard a sound like rushing wind.  Then a wave swept across the bridge from the east and the west, the gust not stirring a single hair or flame or bit of cloth, but everyone started as it passed over them.  The waves met together at Scotch and fountained up around her with a strange shimmering of light that spread out.  A sense of safety and belonging passed through her as she stood there in the center.
Well then. Guess it's all out in the open now.

Then Scotch saw the red bar.

She ducked, and the canvas of the stage indented as the bullet pierced it near where she stood.
Welp. Time to go.

I think that was the first pony opening a Bacchanalia since Princess Celestia herself!
Well... that's a thing. Does that imply that Celestia had some shamanistic powers, or was she just the guest speaker like Cecelio?

Also, cough.

Princess Celestia was fond of Bacchanalia and attended several.
Cough!

He drew himself up and pressed a claw to his chest.  “Call me… Skylord.”
Oh, god. The way he presents that... his real name wouldn't happen to be some variation on "Peter Quill", would it?

Scotch gave a half smile.  “Well, you’re a good Froommate too,” she said with a playful nudge.
Oh god so cute...

“Tchernobog’s got me on a leash.  Besides, don’t want to.  Rice River is a nice place to live.  Food.  Work.  Sex.  I’ve been elsewhere.  It gets worse.  Lots worse.”
She strikes me less as "all the bad parts of Blackjack" and more as a close cousin to Rampage.

“Stop planning to kill me,” Pythia said behind them, and Scotch looked down at the cloaked filly, then at Vicious.
LOL. So awesome.

“I hate seers,” Vicious muttered.
But they're so much fun!

“You’re going to die out there,” Vicious said, pulling back.  “You’re going to die, and I can’t kill hunger and thirst, and there’s no fun in juicing the ghoul or raider that’s dumb enough to eat you.”  She slowly started to trot away.  “Vega was right.  I shouldn’t have cared,” she said as she departed.  “Sleep somewhere else, Scotch.”
I feel a little sorry for Vicious, but she's also showing some codependence I don't like. As if Scotch were never going to grow up or pursue her own future.

“Wait.  Are you saying you set that up to get me kicked out of where I was living?  So I’d go with you?”

Pythia blinked and pushed the hoof aside.  “Well, duh.  Obviously.”
*sigh* Dick move, but I can't exactly blame her.

She hooked a hoof, and the rat let out a panicked squeal as it lifted off the ground and floated before her.  “Starkatteri filth,” she declared, then brought her hooves together in a powerful blow.  The rat popped like a balloon into cloud of white vapor that spread out and disappeared.
Oh, so THAT was one of Tchernobog's watchers...

Oh... oh! She shushed the rat, and it obeyed the order!

“You’re not taking her anywhere,” a voice growled from above.  All eyes went up to where Skylord crouched atop the dumpling stall, a pistol clutched in each talon.  “Get your hooves off the filly.”

“Who are you?” Desideria said, glaring up at him.

“I’m the one pointing a gun at your head, fatso,” the rusty brown griffon growled gruffly.  “The name’s Skylord.  Now let her go.”
So Peter Quill. In my head, he's totally played by Chris Pratt now.

“This is Rice River. This is my place of power,” Desideria said, glaring at the pair.

“It is?” Errukine countered, as if surprised by this information.  “As I recall, you did not invoke or invite the spirits to this festival.  You are, technically, just as much a guest as we are.”
Oh... oh shit. So for the duration, the festival is Scotch's sanctum.

“Yeah, well… that shaman annoyed me,” Pythia muttered.
Tsunkatteri.

From out of the crowd emerged Precious with a quartet of rice boxes held in a curl of her tail.  She glanced over at the gathered people and asked brightly, “Hi, girls.  Did I miss anything?”
*facepalm*

...okay, Pythia, start talking now while you have the chance.

All the while, Tchernobog and Errukine followed like a pair of parents, talking in low voices as the four enjoyed themselves.
It's good to see another shaman who doesn't treat Starkatteri like they have the plague.

Worse, though, was the black ichor that seemed to drip like oil off their bodies and onto the stones.
...
The mare’s water-ruined mane and smeared makeup made her appear quite deranged as she approached Maximillian, trying to step carefully to avoid the sludge that pooled under the legionnaires.
...
Despite her efforts, the black ichor was smeared against her hide like her runny makeup.
...
A mare stood beside him, wearing a military uniform stained and spotted with the dark blotches.
...
The top hatch of the tank popped open, and a roiling black toxic fog poured out and spread across the plaza.  From the interior emerged a zebra soaked black in the foul ichor.
I wonder... maybe being in her (temporary) place of power is enhancing Scotch's spirit senses?

Then they hauled something from the back of the truck.  Something large, purple, feathered, and bloody.  His soldiers dragged out the body and threw it down before the crowd.

A slain purple alicorn.
I most emphatically do not hope that's Psalm.

“Come with me,” Tchernobog stated.  “You’re wanted at Carnico.”
That is, quite frankly, far better than the alternative. I don't trust Carnico any farther than I can throw their factory, but "can't trust" is a damn sight better than "likely to kill on sight".

Hopefully it doesn't feel like filler.
...this was filler?
Oh. I guess so. I hadn't actually noticed. So, ah, no, it didn't. :D
Spoiler:
PIT: Probably Latin rather than Italian, I'd think. Maybe "Institutum Technologiae Propoli[ae]".
Also, this is a very embarrassing Google Translate error:

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SilentCarto wrote:Huh! I thought zonies were supposed to be sterile...
Well, if they're not so much a zony as a ze-remnant-of-a-star-spirt-in-the-shape-of-an-ony, maybe an exception can be made.

SilentCarto wrote:Again with the zebras and the "impossible". Maybe an ant can't meaningfully interact with a pony, but an anthill sure can. And Twilight Sparkle had a spell for turning gravity sideways, so I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss the idea of manipulating fundamental forces.
That was my reaction, too.

...okay, you have no idea how ponies work, do you.
I could see it being an issue sometimes. Think of the fuss they made about using unicorn magic for winter wrap-up.

But they're so much fun!
I thought that sequence was pretty funny.

So Peter Quill. In my head, he's totally played by Chris Pratt now.
Oh, I think I just got what you were talking about. Never saw that movie.

I most emphatically do not hope that's Psalm.
Pretty sure the timing means it can't be.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by SilentCarto on Sat Jun 04, 2016 11:16 pm

Icy Shake wrote:PIT: Probably Latin rather than Italian, I'd think. Maybe "Institutum Technologiae Propoli[ae]".
Yeah, that's probably closer. Latin is all Greek to me.

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Icy Shake wrote:Well, if they're not so much a zony as a ze-remnant-of-a-star-spirt-in-the-shape-of-an-ony, maybe an exception can be made.
Oh, I'm sure "because magic" is the answer.

Icy Shake wrote:I could see it being an issue sometimes. Think of the fuss they made about using unicorn magic for winter wrap-up.
Except that they do exactly that literally everywhere in Equestria except for Ponyville (and, perhaps, a few other earth-pony-centric villages.) It just indicates that Errukine talks a good game, but she really doesn't know ponykind any better than someone who visited Italy once knows how Italians think.

Huh. Funny to think that she's actually distantly related to Goldenblood, who did in fact put forth the effort to at least partially come to understand Zebra thinking.

Icy Shake wrote:Pretty sure the timing means it can't be.
What, becasue she's there when Blankjack wakes up? I know, I was just reacting to my previous hopes for this meeting.
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Post by Kattlarv on Thu Jun 16, 2016 6:15 pm

Had a bit of a derp moment, but completely forgot to ask: I've managed to figure out the premise of the new fic.
But have Somber managed to figure out how to fix the primary issue that PH had with the massive gender divide?
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Post by SilentCarto on Thu Jun 16, 2016 11:12 pm

Also, has anyone else noticed that Somber is currently ranked "Hydra"?

Sorry, not sorry:


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Post by Icy Shake on Thu Jun 16, 2016 11:18 pm

SilentCarto wrote:Also, has anyone else noticed that Somber is currently ranked "Hydra"?

Sorry, not sorry:


And writing a story that kills the only known hydra (I think) in the Wasteland is obviously part of his deep cover. Simply devious.
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Post by Icy Shake on Fri Jun 17, 2016 12:21 pm

SilentCarto wrote:Also, has anyone else noticed that Somber is currently ranked "Hydra"?

Sorry, not sorry:


You can get some mileage out of this.
Not even a little sorry:











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Post by Kattlarv on Sat Jun 18, 2016 3:23 am

@Silent: *Slow clap* xD
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Post by Somber on Sat Jun 18, 2016 10:32 am

Does that mean I can get four times as much writing done now?  O.o
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Post by SilentCarto on Sat Jun 18, 2016 11:23 am

Somber wrote:Does that mean I can get four times as much writing done now?  O.o
I'll need more heads just to read it all! Derpy Hooves
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Post by Kattlarv on Tue Jun 21, 2016 11:54 am

Blah... dunno why I haven't been able to relax ever since my dad died of a brain tumor. Feels like I just grow more and more easily agitated...
Ah well, it's kinda sad how this culture has become so backwards and PC, that it's considered rude to expose scams and lies on the ground that "people weren't harmed until they were shown the truth." so the logical conclusion? Shame people that are whistle blowers.
Heck, haven't even bothered calling out the recent scam folio. People don't care that it didn't even remotely deliver what was promised anyhow.

Anyhow, rambling on a bit here... regardless, I do hope you've learned from your mistakes Somber. Would be a bit deadpan if this new story carries the same flaws. Mostly as it removes 50 % of the reason you gave for not wanting to fix the mistakes in PH xP
It sounds like it's going good for it at least, so that seems promising =3 Kinda need to hear about something not going to shits.
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Post by Somber on Tue Jun 21, 2016 12:04 pm

... okay.
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Post by Frost on Tue Jun 21, 2016 9:16 pm

Hey, dog, it's really simple. Just include no male characters whatsoever because the presence of males means women are being abused. Then make all your sex scenes include heavy descriptions of the females' vaginas, which all have to look like a hand grenade went off inside a roast beef and mayonnaise factory.
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Post by Kattlarv on Wed Jun 22, 2016 5:22 pm

Don't mind that troll. He's always just tossing a fit whenever his horsedong obsession isn't met.

Anyhow, late night comment aside.
I do mean what I said. It would be really neat if you have gotten over the inconsistencies and contradiction PH suffered from.
As, like said. When both of the reasons given for not fixing them in the original release of PH was 1: "Just wanted to put it down and finally be finished with it. So you could focus on something new." (totally understandable, it's been years) It's the 2: "Much like conveyed in the story, I want them there to remind me that I can do better." I would quirk a bit of a brow at in case nothing now would have changed in the new story. Which as said: Hope isn't the case. As then you could just as well have had people correct them.

But so far I'm only gotten conversational snippets of what it's about and all that. So far it doesn't seem to go in the same tone or direction. So who knows, maybe those topics won't even pop up :P
Could be an alternative ofc. But ah well. Whether it's never been addressed so far, or if people just don't want to spoil, I won't know till I read. But for that, I gotta get around to finishing PH first heh.
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Post by SilentCarto on Fri Jul 15, 2016 9:59 am

Homelands Ch. 8 Commentary:

“Once, ponies were normal and in tune with nature. Then, you were not. You changed. You used your magic to assert yourself upon the natural world. To change it to suit your needs. You did not accept the seasons, you imposed them. You did not accept nature. You managed it. You stopped interacting with the spirits and they with you. Your alicorn princesses were the purest expression of this: forcing the sun and moon to move as you willed, rather than as the spirits of the sun and moon wished.”
He expresses this with the usual zebra-ish utter certainty, but is it necessarily a bad thing? I mean, we don't see pony buildings falling down because the spirits were offended by it. The mathematics of structural engineering work. It's a different way of doing things, but ponies sure don't have to reroute roads because some spirit said "get off my lawn". For all that this allegedly angers spirits, they sure don't seem to object very strenuously.

I wonder... the Eater of Souls was all about inflicting its will on the cosmos. Could the shift in pony thinking be due to its influence? Or perhaps its presence made Equestrian spirits grow recalcitrant and forced ponies to adopt other ways?

“To us, the Maiden of the Stars was inevitable censure by the spirits.”
Wait, I though that was the influence of the Eater of Souls. Is it just me, or could any given misfortune be ascribed to censure? This smells a lot like the old "We're having a drought because the gods are unhappy" way of thinking. I immediately wonder, "How could you know that? What would indicate that a given misfortune was not due to spiritual censure?"

The ghostly butterflies flittered towards the lit talisman. It flared once, twice, and then the white glow was replaced by a kaleidoscope of colors as the gem lit up with the image of dozens of butterflies. [...] Scotch stared as the diamond rotated, and the magic glyphs within were transformed from stark blue markings to beautiful mosaics of light and magic.
Shine on, you crazy diamond.

“She didn’t seem all that upset about the Blood Legion,” Xarius croaked, his eyes narrowing.

“Yeah,” Skylord muttered. “And these guys don’t look like your usual security clowns. Worst assignment ever,” he growled, working the trigger bit on his battle saddle.

“And look, no driver,” Xarius grumbled as he surveyed the courtyard ahead.
You're welcome.

Scotch fished through her saddlebags and pulled out a crescent wrench, ramming it into the bolt hole in the wall and jamming it in place.
Some days, I worry for the state of her toolbox. I sure hope she doesn't end up missing that particular size of wrench in the near future...

One opened into an office with a terminal depicting tiny striped toasters flying lazily across the screen.
Bwahahaha...

“That’s me! I’m Doctor Z of Z TV, helping information that wants to be free to flee!”
...oh please tell me this is actually him, as in he's an AI or a worm or something...

The cartoon smirked at them, raising an arrow-shaped sign that read ‘kinda a big deal’ and pointed down at himself.
Listen, 'Big Deal', you got another problem. Women always figure out the truth. Always.

Skylord gagged, grabbing his throat, red eyes bulging as he staggered back, then blinked. “Wait. I feel fine.”
A poison designed to target only zebras, perhaps? Or something more... insidious?

He lifted a card depicting Blackjack smiling at her. “You say you’re not like Blackjack?” he murmured as he turned the card. On the other side was Blackjack, mutilated, violated, and dying. “Don’t be like her. Go away.”
Oh no, we're doing something that has Wasteland worried? Whatever shall we do?

I get the feeling that this is a great window into Wasteland's drives. It doesn't necessarily want to kill everyone; it wants to perpetuate the status quo. For every tribe that rises, one must fall. For every device repaired, another breaks. It's not looking for stasis, but for unchanging change -- like the tides, eternally going up and down, but never rising or falling beyond its limits. I wonder if this is why it seemed to help Blackjack sometimes; she was stirring things up, breaking existing power structures and sowing chaos that could birth new powers... right up until she started changing things for the better and, perhaps, building something that could last.

“Yeah. This is way too smart for the Bloods. Blood Legion doesn’t do this. Their tactics are to overwhelm and terrify their opponent into giving up. If Adolpha hadn’t been here, they would have pulled it off without a hitch.”
GEE I WONDER WHO COULD BE BEHIND THIS

Then Scotch’s side exploded in pain as a gunshot sounded. “She was right! They’re here! They’re here!” a stallion bellowed into a radio. “Ignore those alarms!”
Shit.

Screams faded as the smoky shapes then stared at her. “You were poisoned,” she said weakly as she began to weep. “You need to go somewhere else.” No one should stay here in this stupid factory forever. “Please. Go somewhere better.”
...huh. That's not something just any old shaman can do, is it? I wonder whether this is an oblique function of being some kind of "shaman of repair", or if she's turning out to be something that's not quite a shaman in the traditional sense. She hasn't taken on any specific taboos yet, after all. (At least, not consciously...)

I have to wonder whether a shaman's specialization is something they're born with or trained into, and whether it's a limitation against things outside their bailiwick or simply a specialization in a particular area. Boggy may be a bad example, since his presence seems to actively upset most spirits -- the shamans from Abalone seemed to imply that it's a limitation, but I wonder if that was just a matter of never having been trained to "speak earth spirit", so to speak. Or perhaps the tighter you bond with a particular class of spirits, the less the others listen to you...

“You!” the fat zebra snapped. “You’re working with that informational terrorist!”
Did you just pun on 'international terrorist'?

“Hah! I knew it! I knew it! Carnico made the Razorgrass! It wasn’t some pony weapon!”
Yeah, THAT one took about five seconds to look suspicious as hell.

“Told you. I radioed someone in the Iron Legion that there’s something bad going on and they should check it out. They’re busy doing legion things.”
Kid. You're in the communications room. I'm quite positive you can contact every receiver in the tri-state area from there.

“No! Plug it in! Plug it in! I can’t get out!” he said, rushing to the sides of the terminal screen and bashing his hooves against it. “I can’t be trapped here! Information needs to be free!”
I knew it! He's not a hacker, he's a program!

He cocked his head as if listening, then nodded once. “Okay. We’ll play ball. What do you need?”
Well, okay, a distributed fleet of programs. I hesitate to call him an AI virus, but... yeah.

“Doesn’t anyone in management listen to I.T. anymore?”

“Did they ever, Gordo?” Doctor Z challenged, and both suddenly looked awkward at the momentary camaraderie.
Hm. Implying (unsurprisingly) that he's a copy of somezebra who was once in IT.

“Probably in her office. She’d be pretty conspicuous carrying around a hoof-sized metal box wherever she went.”
Unless it was disguised as something else that she'd be expected to carry...

“What did they eat?” Another pause. “Love, don’t let them eat anything else. Trust me. They… just trust me. This is very important. I know it breaks tradition. Listen, please. Stay home tonight, and don’t let them eat anything else at the celebration. I love you too. Give my love to the foals. Alright.”
Huh. So it's one particular dish, I guess. Whatever comes before pie.

“Whoa. Nice job,” Skylord said with a smile. “Kept it quiet, too.” He reached down and pulled the stallion off. “Got the third one right through the neck. I knew you were some kind of pony commando or something.”
Won't think that for long once she starts crying and puking...

She looked right at him and started bawling like a foal. It didn’t matter that he’d been trying to hurt her. For some reason, the tears just wouldn’t stop! “Or… something,” Skylord muttered, shaking his head.
Heh. Called it.

The sun was just below the eastern horizon, but she could see the shape cutting its way up river towards the bridge. A bad situation was about to become infinitely worse.

The Riptide had arrived.
Any chance we can blow the brige and drop it right on that ship?
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Post by Icy Shake on Fri Jul 29, 2016 11:23 pm

The One Man's Pony Ramblings review is live!
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Post by O. Hinds on Sat Jul 30, 2016 1:43 pm

Ah, thanks.
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Post by Derpmind on Wed Aug 03, 2016 11:10 am

Icy Shake wrote:The One Man's Pony Ramblings review is live!

Damn, never thought he'd actually do it.
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Post by Kattlarv on Sun Sep 18, 2016 11:04 am

By the way, was it ever revealed why Blackjack inexplicably thinks like a Menenist more or less?
Or was that also chucked on the "meh, cba to explain/think of a reason" pile?

Especially considering it seems like Somber possibly decided to not fix most of the issues in PH nor learn any lessons before starting the new story.
Would be nice to know exactly how many loose hanging threads never gets resolved or addressed when I eventually go back to finish it.
(Though I am seriously considering just cutting my potential losses of a great follow up in fear that Somber just pulled a Colonial Marines. And simply cut out and post the fixed versions of the flawed majors scenes, and not risk messing up the regular dialog like I did in my first attempt.)
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Post by O. Hinds on Sun Sep 18, 2016 1:18 pm

Menenist?

I'm afraid that I'm not sure what you mean by "pulled a Colonial Marines" either, sorry.
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Post by Valikdu on Wed Sep 21, 2016 5:02 am

O. Hinds wrote:Menenist?
A crazy-person term that means "somebody who campaigns for rights of males, even though we already live in a Teh Patriarchy". Originated as a joke, but crazy people took it with complete seriousness and ran with it. Still running, I see.

I'm afraid that I'm not sure what you mean by "pulled a Colonial Marines" either, sorry.
Um... had the work done by someone else while was himself working on something that interested him more? Not sure what this would even apply to. Well, I'm sure Katt can explain in a totally sensible way (lol).
[The term would be referring to how the Gearbox CEO Randy Pitchford had his company work on the project that interetec him more - Borderlands 2 - and gave the one that didn't - Aliens: Colonial Marines - to some other studio, and the game was bad as a result]
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Post by O. Hinds on Wed Sep 21, 2016 12:28 pm

@Valikdu:
Thank you for the clarification.

@Kattlarv re menenism:
While I am not certain, I believe that it was effectively the latter, yes. I think it was less that he couldn't be bothered and more that he didn't see a need, though.

@Kattlarv re Colonial Marines:
I'm afraid that I"m still not sure just what you're asking here. Somber wrote Project Horizons all the way to the end, if that's what you mean. He even put some edits in the FIMFiction version that he didn't run past the team first.
Actually, I suppose that the first item could have been addressed in them (I'm not sure exactly what he did), but I'm afraid that I don't think that it was likely done to your satisfaction if it was done at all.
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Post by Scootayay on Fri Jan 20, 2017 5:53 pm

Chapter 33 of Project Horizons was released exactly 5 years ago today. It's been a while.
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Post by Valikdu on Fri Jan 20, 2017 5:56 pm

who are you
what's going on
where am I
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Post by Scootayay on Sat Jan 21, 2017 12:10 pm

Oh don't mind me, just performing necromancy.
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Post by O. Hinds on Tue Jan 24, 2017 2:11 am

Oh, my. Wow. Hard to believe...
Thanks, Scootayay.

(Just replaced my hard drive cable. Again. Though I've also, sadly, got a new laptop ordered, with the expectation that it will become the new primary. I still plan to use this one frequently, though, as I expect to have more chargers and a better-fitting case for it. Still, sad. Ah well.)
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Post by WavemasterRyx on Wed Jan 25, 2017 2:20 pm

Scootayay wrote:Oh don't mind me, just performing necromancy.
Bringing this back to life? 
Time to kill everyone again then:

http://wavemasterryx.tumblr.com/post/155694758872

O. Hinds wrote:Oh, my.  Wow.  Hard to believe...
Thanks, Scootayay.

(Just replaced my hard drive cable.  Again.  Though I've also, sadly, got a new laptop ordered, with the expectation that it will become the new primary.  I still plan to use this one frequently, though, as I expect to have more chargers and a better-fitting case for it.  Still, sad.  Ah well.)
i'm sorry you're having troubles, sir.  Hopefully things will be alright.
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