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Post by swicked on Fri May 15, 2015 11:17 am

Ironmonger wrote:
Lulz:
...I don't get it.

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Post by Scienza on Fri May 15, 2015 11:19 am

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Post by Ironmonger on Fri May 15, 2015 11:22 am

@Swicked

The Game Grumps have an unofficial policy of never interacting with YouTube comments, but Ross (RubberNinja), the guy who does another one of their shows called "Steam Train", decided to reply to someone right the fuck out of nowhere with that statement.

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Post by Overlong Analysis Cobalt on Fri May 15, 2015 12:20 pm

Harmony Ltd. wrote:Yo Cobalt, is that you?
Nooooo... :P

I have written about Margaret Atwood, though; never drunk, mind, just sans sleep.
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Post by Icy Shake on Fri May 15, 2015 7:36 pm

Well, it's official. I'm done with my current (old!) job, and unoccupied until August. I'm looking forward to the summer.
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Post by Harmony Ltd. on Fri May 15, 2015 8:12 pm

So, I installed GOG's client on the PC. So far it's pretty sleek. Haven't tried to install anything from it, yet.

By the way, Scienza, do you know how to add people to your friend list?

(also, apparently, it had been exactly one year since I had last bought something from GOG...)
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Post by O. Hinds on Fri May 15, 2015 8:58 pm

Icy Shake wrote:Well, it's official. I'm done with my current (old!) job, and unoccupied until August. I'm looking forward to the summer.
Good luck!
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Post by Frost on Fri May 15, 2015 9:44 pm

And, after more than three weeks in the field, boredom has reached platoon-on-platoon brawling, man-wearing-the-fresh-skin-of-a-rattlesnake-as-a-headband levels
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Post by Stringtheory on Fri May 15, 2015 11:05 pm

Just saw the new Mad Max. It was basically a two hour long chase scene, all action, almost no plot. Decent action though, worth seeing in my opinion.
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Post by Tytan on Sat May 16, 2015 2:08 am

Stringtheory wrote:Just saw the new Mad Max. It was basically a two hour long chase scene, all action, almost no plot. Decent action though, worth seeing in my opinion.

What are you talking about? It had a fantastic plot. Maybe a bit derivative, but perfect for the setting. And the action was fucking phenomenal.

I don't have a hard time saying that it was not only easily one of the best action movies I've seen in years, but also one of the best reboots/sequels ever.
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Post by Stringtheory on Sat May 16, 2015 2:11 am

Tytan wrote:
Stringtheory wrote:Just saw the new Mad Max. It was basically a two hour long chase scene, all action, almost no plot. Decent action though, worth seeing in my opinion.

What are you talking about? It had a fantastic plot. Maybe a bit derivative, but perfect for the setting. And the action was fucking phenomenal.

I don't have a hard time saying that it was not only easily one of the best action movies I've seen in years, but also one of the best reboots/sequels ever.
It's just that there were like 10-15 tops that weren't action. Like you said it worked very well for the setting, but for someone expecting more it could be a let down.
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Post by Tytan on Sat May 16, 2015 2:22 am

Well, to be fair, why expect a lot from a Mad Max story?

The first one was a revenge story with a cop protagonist.

The second one was about Max helping a bunch of people run away.

And what the fuck even was the story of Thunderdome?
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Post by Harmony Ltd. on Sat May 16, 2015 8:14 am

Is that a Splatoon x Hatred crossover??
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Post by Valikdu on Sat May 16, 2015 11:37 am

Tytan wrote:And what the fuck even was the story of Thunderdome?

Doesn't matter, the goal was to enable the jokes of "<subject name here> can't get beyond Thunderdome".
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Post by Frost on Sat May 16, 2015 12:47 pm

I finally got to get on a Blackhawk today. It was fun, going up and down on that Blackhawk. That Blackhawk was vibrating with power as it carried a bunch of guys to places they could never have gone. I can't wait to ride more Blackhawks
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Post by Harmony Ltd. on Sat May 16, 2015 12:53 pm

So the fucking grunt gets to get on an aircraft before me, who works on them all goddamn day. What a world we live in. *dramatic sigh*
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Post by Harmony Ltd. on Sat May 16, 2015 5:19 pm

So, watched the new Mad Max.

I loved it to bits.

I'm probably going to blabber a bit about it later, but for now I'm just going to say that, interestingly enough, the movie pass the Bechdel Test, and not just on a technicality, but honestly.

Two words: Badass grannies.
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Post by Frost on Sat May 16, 2015 5:42 pm

Kind of strange; how so many fixate on the Bedchel Test when it's actually a pretty terrible measure of how a film treats women
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Post by Scienza on Sat May 16, 2015 6:21 pm

Frost wrote:Kind of strange; how so many fixate on the Bedchel Test when it's actually a pretty terrible measure of how a film treats women
I think it's less about how the movie treats women and more about what gauging what the writers believe that women think. Passing it doesn't really mean much, it's just when something doesn't that things start to go ಠ_ಠ

Personally, I prefer the Sexy Lamp Test, which is if you could replace your female character with a sexy lamp and have the story still basically work, you need to learn how to write goddamn characters.
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Post by Harmony Ltd. on Sat May 16, 2015 6:27 pm

Well, yeah, of course.

It's just something I noted and thought to share.

But even without talking about that "test", I think the movie has some kinda strong """feminist""" themes (note that I'm using that term in the vaguest of sense there, please don't try to correct me, thanks).

After all, the primary plot of the movie is "women liberating other women from the shackles of an abusive patriarchal authority".
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Post by Guest on Sat May 16, 2015 6:38 pm

Well, yeah, hypothetically if a creator valued women above all else and decided to create a story where woman didn't exist to illustrate their importance that film would still be sexist against women according to that test.

But I personally don't really see the importance of a barometer of sexism, or any other ism or phobia. It really just seems like a way to look down on other people for the media they enjoy.

Only semi related, Just the other day a friend of mine and I were talking about Fifty shades of grey. As evidence to the series being harmful he pointed to people saying the abusive relationship depicted in the book (I haven't read it and I don't really care to. So fuck if I know one way or the other) isn't abusive.

I'll just assume it's true, but you got to consider why they say that. When some people don't like something they don't just stop at saying  "x is horrible" they say "X is horrible and the people who like it are horrible" or "x is stupid and only stupid people can like it". So I'm thinking they've been made to feel guilty for the thing they enjoyed, and when some one came along and said "It's horrible that you like it because it contains this bad thing" they no doubt tried to argue it didn't contain the bad thing.

Pretty sure Kim argued that some artist that drew vaginas she didn't like were terrible and so were there fans because they were inaccurate or something.

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Post by Scienza on Sat May 16, 2015 6:55 pm

Last wrote:Well, yeah, hypothetically if a creator valued women above all else abd decided to create a story where woman didn't exist to illustrate their importance that film would still be sexist against women according to that test.

But I personally don't really see the importance of a barometer of sexism, or any other ism or phobia. It really just seems like a way to look down on other people for the media they enjoy.

Only semi related, Just the other day a friend of mine and I were talking about Fifty shades of grey. As evidence to the series being harmful he pointed to people saying the abusive relationship depicted in the book (I haven't read it and I don't really care to. So fuck if I know one way or the other) isn't abusive.

I'll just assume it's true, but you got to consider why they say that. When some people don't like something they don't just stop at saying  "x is horrible" they say "X is horrible and the people who like it are horrible" or "x is stupid and only stupid people can like it". So I'm thinking they've been made to feel guilty for the thing they enjoyed, and when some one came along and said "It's horrible that you like it because it contains this bad thing" they no doubt tried to argue it didn't contain the bad thing.

Pretty sure Kim argued that some artist that drew vaginas she didn't like were terrible and so were there fans because they were inaccurate or something.
I fully agree. I don't usually say it because I tend towards hyperbole, but I believe that you can like whatever the fuck you want, or create whatever the fuck you want, it's just that from my subjective perspective, I might dislike said creation. I don't think that Fifty Shades of Grey is actually harmful; I think that the relationships portrayed in the work are abusive, the characters are one-dimensional, and overall, I disapprove of the fact that it exists. Someone can like it, the same way that I like sappy KyoSaya fanfiction or RWBY, I'm just going to quietly (sometimes less so) judge their tastes because I'm a pretentious bitch. 

If I feel that a work has, say, pretty damn misogynist vibes, that's just my appraisal. If that appraisal is reflected by those of others, then one can argue that the work most likely reflects similar themes, but that doesn't really mean shit about the people who watch it unless they filled out a little questionnaire that said that they watched The Wicker Man remake because they think that all women that don't fawn over a man secretly want to burn your children.

The only objectively bad movie is one that's actually a renamed executable file that steals your identity and then bricks your computer. However, there are a fuckton of subjectively bad movies. I think the major problems arise when people conflate the two.
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Post by Tytan on Sat May 16, 2015 8:08 pm

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Post by Harmony Ltd. on Sat May 16, 2015 8:26 pm

That feel when you dig through your own archives and end up finding excerpt from discarded projects you don't even remember anymore...

Spoiler:
A Rough Timeline, Part 2


2965 : After the success of ATS-07's and 08's missions, the enthusiasm toward the current research on FTL, which was already high to begin with, reached new heights. As a consequence, credits started to flow from everywhere, everyone donating to help this once-in-a-specie's-lifetime opportunity to spread our eggs. Creation of the “Foundation”, tasked to coordinate all things related to FTL.

2966 : With nearly infinite resources at their disposal, the Foundation ordered the creation of a dozen exploration ships, taking lessons from all other FTL flights to date and integrating their conclusions in the ship's design. Robust and resilient, they where designed to be able to explore the Galaxy on their own for decades, or even centuries if need be. In the meantime, research to improve FTL-Drives continue, the goal being to Man-Rate them.

2968 : Launch of the “Colombus”, first Explorer-class Autonomous Exploration Ship.


2969 : Launch of the last Explorer-class AES from the Jovian shipyards.

2975 : After the loss in-duty of three of the Explorer-class AES (the “James Cook” being one of them), the Foundation ordered a dozen more ships of a new, improved design, faster and more reliable than their predecessors. Birth of the Pathfinder-class AES.

2976 : Launch of the 12th and last Pathfinder-class AES from the Jovian Shipyards.

2989 : After twenty years of exploration by nearly two dozen AES, all solar systems in a fourty light-years radii around Earth have been thoroughly explored. One earthlike planet, three habitable satellites planetoids, thirteen easily-terraformable planetoids and fifty hardly-terraformable planetoids have been found.

2990 : Start of the Extra-Solar Colonization Initiative. Off the two hundred and thirteen billion inhabitants of the Solar System, more than one billion people volunteer. Design of the first generation Colony Fleet, which will head toward New Earth with several million colonists and uncounted robots to build the first infrastructures of the planet.



[From now on and until the League's establishment, History become uncertain : every colony ship had the whole history of the Solar System in their databanks when they left it, compiled by Earth's prestigious universities ; but in the 4th Millennium the Human Sphere didn't have any real central authority tasked with historical studies at its scale, or those which existed have seen most of their records damaged, expunged or destroyed during the Great War. Earth had the most complete records, but most of it has been lost during the Incident. Only the Hub's University has intact records of the whole period, but sadly, its History Department has always been considered as “some sort of sad joke” (in the words of one of the Department's most respected Researcher)]


Seriously, I'm like, intrigued by what even I had in mind...
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Post by Harmony Ltd. on Sat May 16, 2015 8:28 pm

In think this may be related:

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Additional information :


The Great War


I've said before that the Great War ended roughly two thousands years before the current date, with the creation of the League. But I haven't talked of the Great War itself yet. Let me correct this.
First, you have to understand the context of the time : It was the 5th millennium, and mankind had left the cradle of the Solar System less than a thousand year before. In this time Man had spread in an anarchic manner, taking up every space available it could reach, without any supervision. As always, tribalism quickly emerged, and Mankind's greed and envy allied to its never ending lust for conquest to create hundreds of competing Space Empires. Predictably, these empires came into conflict ; diplomatic, at first, but in a number of case the situation escalated to open armed conflict.
Five hundred years after Man had left the Solar System, the young Human Sphere was riddled with conflict and struggle. As a mean to survival in these troubled times, the space empires that composed the Sphere allied between themselves, slowly forming important power blocks. These blocks, in turn, merged, to form bigger and bigger blocks, in order to counter the other blocks that where themselves becoming bigger and bigger. This trend continued for three hundred years, in the same time as the Human Sphere continued to expand. At the end of this period, remained only two opposing power blocks, and a few independent powers standing in the middle, that the two Powers where trying to influence to their “cause”. This situation lasted for seventy years, a time during which the Powers invested themselves in a ruinous arm race. The weapons of this age truly were awe-inspiring, hulking space colossus reminiscent of the Battleships of old in their gigantism and raw firepower ; siege engines specialized in planetary bombardment ; whole Worldships dedicated to war... The martial heritage of this period is mostly lost to history, most of it in the flames of War, the rest seeing truth mostly indistinguishable from legend.


The chronic do not tell us who struck first, or why. It doesn't matter. The Human Sphere suddenly ignited in War, as five hundred years of hidden tensions, petty grudges and bitter resentments came to the surface.
Sides were switched, backs were stabbed, worlds were turned to ash as the conflict quickly escalated to cover the whole of the Human Sphere.
The detailed chronicle of this period would take whole libraries worth of books to cover, so let us only say that this period of generalized Total War lasted for a hundred year, which spiked with the Campaign of a Hundred Worlds, and ended with the final dissolution of the two blocks, no one of their members still being able to trust their so-called “allies”. Followed another fifty years of warfare, as revenges were settled and “borders” were retraced in the blood of the innocent and not-so-innocent.
When the dust settled, the Human Sphere understood that it could never allow what happened in the last century-an-a-half to ever happen again. It is in this spirit of “Never Again” that the League was created. The signature of the League's Treaty in the ruins of Old Earth, which the war hadn't sparred, is seen as the official end of the Great War.

One of my standard "big wars happen and thousands of billions die" kinda setting...

I quickly noticed that trend after realizing that I often tended to have Earth destroyed for one reason or another in my stories, often in especially spectacular ways (*)



(*): one of them involved having an asteroid the size of a small moon being deorbited from earth orbit and THEN the vacuum energy reactors that were in that asteroid detonating, literally melting the planet back to its original, 4.5-billions-years-ago state. The whole incident being recorded from thousands of different angles from all the other orbital & moon colonies. If you thought 9/11 was bad...
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Dat neon pink 80's aesthetic...
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Post by O. Hinds on Sun May 17, 2015 8:34 pm


And here’s Part Two!
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Post by Frost on Sun May 17, 2015 9:47 pm

Addendum: boredom has reached the level of "The First Sergeant is reclining in a throne of MRE boxes and the CO (a.k.a. "White Shadow") is using the guidon as a spear"
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Post by swicked on Sun May 17, 2015 10:23 pm

The latest MLP episode:
Yeah... not caring that one of her subjects nearly got permanently banished to some unknown dimension? That was not okay.
Or... really any of it. All the damage Smooze caused in the meantime. Discord disposing of Rarity's dress after she got gooed, too.
There's nothing in-universe to justify her actions. I'd be kinda okay with her magic not working against the monster, but her attitude toward the whole thing was just too much.
I don't think I like her anymore.

I guess that just leaves Zecora, now. Hopefully she'll get an episode eventually and it won't be awful.

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Post by Scienza on Mon May 18, 2015 8:36 am

Hell fucking yeah:
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