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Post by Frost on Wed Feb 11, 2015 9:47 pm

Tytan wrote:
Where was that shit for Magic Mike?
Or Saw?
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Post by Ironmonger on Wed Feb 11, 2015 11:48 pm

Ladies and gentlemen, I now have the equipment I need to start working on my channel. The Ironworks should be operational by the end of the month.

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Post by Tytan on Wed Feb 11, 2015 11:55 pm

Congrats.

If you need any lackeys for multiplayer games I'm sure I can find room in my busy schedule.
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Post by Overlong Analysis Cobalt on Wed Feb 11, 2015 11:56 pm

@Iron
Highfive, dude! I'd be happy to be the noob idiot on the comms everyone hates on in the comments section if you do some multiplayer recordings. :P Drop us a link once you're up and running?
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Post by Ironmonger on Thu Feb 12, 2015 12:08 am

@Tytan

Thanks. Whatever works best for you.

@OAC

Thanks, and I'll definitely drop a link when the light is green. I'll probably do some console games first; I've got a lot of old PS1, PS2, Xbox, and Xbox 360 games I'd like to film. I also plan on recording NES, SNES, Nintendo 64, and Gamecube games in the future.

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Post by Tytan on Thu Feb 12, 2015 12:11 am

Make sure you stick to a theme. People like consistency. Be it only playing games you like, games nobody likes and viciously make fun of, or whatever.
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Post by Frost on Thu Feb 12, 2015 12:12 am

I can lend my high-pitched, nasaly fuckboi voice to these proceedings, as well
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Post by RoboRed on Thu Feb 12, 2015 12:23 am

I might pop in one of these days.

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If you wanted to stay anywhere near socially acceptable, you should have taken a left turn about three layers of WTF back.

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Post by Tytan on Thu Feb 12, 2015 12:27 am

To elaborate on my point, the likes of Markiplier and Pewdiepie and tons of other youtubers play games that are popular at the moment. They also have facecams because people like to watch them over react.

Then there's the Super best friends Zaibatsu. They play games they're nostalgic about, are well designed, are poorly designed, or are about things that make them excited (like wrestling and dinosaurs).
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Post by Guest on Thu Feb 12, 2015 2:03 am


Satire piece? It's just that I find the idea that any theatre would attempt to hold up a standard of cleanliness to be a ludicrous one. I mean they mention shampooing the seats.

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Post by swicked on Thu Feb 12, 2015 3:30 am

Have you read any of Fifty Shades of Grey?
A friend once let me read some of hers and I laughed a ton. Just intense and poetic-y.

Honestly, though, is it really all that different from some particularly flowery clop?


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Post by Overlong Analysis Cobalt on Thu Feb 12, 2015 4:47 am

@50 Shades of Gris
Some friends put on a live reading of a few choice chapters once. Alcohol was involved. Obviously the environment was structured towards a critical reception, but even so, it was... not what you'd call impressive. And the folks into BDSM have their criticisms of its depiction of that stuff (which mostly seem to be that it gets everything wrong that is possible to get wrong - I exaggerate, but not by much). But as you say, it's no worse than plenty of other stuff out there. Still, when there's unpublished fanfiction that does a better job of depicting a healthy BDSM relationship, and/or is more erotic, it's easy to understand people getting bothered by 50 Shades selling a bajillion copies and becoming a cultural icon for the requisite fifteen minutes. People are upset that Michael Bay movies keep making money, too. And yet, there is clearly a market for garbage. People buy shitty, overpriced audio equipment, and shitty, overproduced music. People watched the Grammies. People are satisfied with DC's television lineup having laughably bad writing more than half the time. I own an iPod, a junky laptop, and I read pretty mediocre fantasy. Everybody consumes stuff that (if there was such a thing as an objective viewpoint) is objectively trashy. So... I guess maybe we should go a little easy on the fans of garbage, if not the garbage itself, because we all browse the local dump's buffet section sometimes.

I hope we can dodge a movie sequel so the fervor doesn't return at some point in the near future. Prospects are not looking bright on that front.
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Re: [Official!] Project Horizons Comment Crew Chat thread.

Post by Harmony Ltd. on Thu Feb 12, 2015 4:58 am

The problem with FSoG, from what I hear, is that the relationship described is actually an abusive one, but isn't _portrayed_ as such. The criticism being that it further skews the already totally screwed up "norms" on what is "supposedly" healthy relationships but actually isn't.

Basically, people bitch about the book because it sets an unhealthy exemple on many level, and that might be dangerous for people IRL.
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Post by Guest on Thu Feb 12, 2015 7:24 am

Harmony Ltd. wrote:The problem with FSoG, from what I hear, is that the relationship described is actually an abusive one, but isn't _portrayed_ as such. The criticism being that it further skews the already totally screwed up "norms" on what is "supposedly" healthy relationships but actually isn't.

Basically, people bitch about the book because it sets an unhealthy exemple on many level, and that might be dangerous for people IRL.

I don't want to defend this book, because honestly it seems like garbage, but it's fiction and like every other piece of fiction it's not meant to educate you on how to go about a relationship (or anything else for that matter) at all.

If it was being pushed as some educational piece and being read in like home economics class or something I can see that criticism being legit but as far as I can tell it's just trashy erotica. Like Kim and her many gripes about porn it's up to the viewer or the audience to step back and recognize they're viewing a fantasy.

In short, it's not fiction's job to educate anyone on anything.

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Post by O. Hinds on Thu Feb 12, 2015 8:36 am

So here's a topic people might find interesting: my RPG group, after our session, had as one of our bits of postgame chat a discussion, spawned from a discussion of the FoE game, of what FoE would be like with various versions of an evil LittlePip. Lawful, chaotic, starting out evil, turning during the story... that sort of thing. I realized that it might kind of make sense for her to start turning in Appleoosa (not that I think she did in canon, to be clear). I mean, she grew up friendless, with an alcoholic, somewhat neglectful mother, she broke into places for fun, when she finally met her idol, who she was crushing on despite incompatible orientations, Velvet used her to get out without any thought for her wellbeing afterwards, she leaves everything behind and ventures out into the Wasteland, she's exposed to all that violence and learns that not even the Stables were good, and when she finally finds Velvet, said mare is happily working for slavers. Some mares in that situation might decide that obviously goodness wasn't all it was cracked up to be and that maybe they ought to be more proactive about looking out for themselves.

Anyway, just tossing this up as a potentially interesting conversation topic.
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Post by Harmony Ltd. on Thu Feb 12, 2015 10:15 am

@Last: the problem, you see, is that a very large number of people are dumb, and the media coverage surrounding the commercial success of the book tend to push as actually a good example. I know it's shit, _you_ know it's shit. They don't.

Add to it a number of pre-existing cultural issues, and the aforementioned dumb people will be more likely to act even dumber.

This is why people bitch about these things. Not just because of a snobbish sense of superiority but because they actually have an impact on people's lives, however ridiculous you might see it.

Of course, some people push these bitching a bit far (Kim), but this doesn't mean that all people bitching are wrong.
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Post by swicked on Thu Feb 12, 2015 10:42 am

Harmony Ltd. wrote:@Last: the problem, you see, is that a very large number of people are dumb, and the media coverage surrounding the commercial success of the book tend to push as actually a good example. I know it's shit, _you_ know it's shit. They don't.
...you can't save people from themselves.

I didn't know that FSoG was particularly bad clop, if it really is that. I'm not a good judge of that sort of thing.
The joke here, though, was that the book-turned-movie was sexy-enough they were covering theater sheets with plastic, not that they were handing out car batteries, cables and nipple clamps afterward or anything.

If you are disliking it for its potential effect on the impressionable, how is that much different than blaming video games for violence?

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Post by Guest on Thu Feb 12, 2015 10:58 am

@Harmony I follow an artist on tumblr, I'm not going to say who as it's irrelevant. Point is she's got an anything goes tumblr and occasionally she likes to reblog the art of what I'm assuming is another female artist.

The art in question features a male character in relationships with female furry characters, the idea is that he is physical abused by these characters because these fictional female charcters are larger physically than male humans.

I can only come to two conclusion on why she reblogs this art (and implictly likes it).

1. She likes the idea of a male in a physically abusive relationship with females.

2. She like the art style and all that entails. (Character design, color, etc.)

There could be another reason for it, but I always assumed it's number one.

This is why I'm okay with it. As a person that I don't really know personally beyond knowing the fact she is an adult I give her at least the minimum amount of respect that you should. And that is assuming she's smart enough to understand the difference between reality and fantasy and that she knows in real life it would be wrong to abuse your partner/anyone regardless of their sex.

The people who read/watched this and think "Oh man, this could lead to women thinking this okay in real life" are absolutely without a doubt being snobby. In order to say that you have to assume other people who have read it lack your intelligence to understand that what's in a book or on a screen isn't reality.

To me that is offensive, to say that a book is the reason anyone would stay with someone abusive lessens the reason they actually do. It makes them seem weak minded which I doubt highly that they are.


If this book was made for children I might see the harm in it, but neither the book or the movie to the best of my knowledge are.

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Post by swicked on Thu Feb 12, 2015 11:07 am

Huh, I agree with Last.
Not to make anything of it, but it seems like that doesn't happen very often...

Also, Last, one other possibility is that the woman reblogging this stuff thinks such relationships are hot. What people advocate with their rational mind and what people drool over with their libido are often diametrically opposed. Kinky, taboo, whatever.
I haven't seen this art but that's just my thought on the matter given the subject of the current discussion.


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Post by Valikdu on Thu Feb 12, 2015 11:07 am

wait, WHAT

Real screenshot from season trailer:

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Twilight is gonna have to get in the fucking robot?
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Post by Harmony Ltd. on Thu Feb 12, 2015 11:19 am

*shrug* I was simply pointing out the motivation of the people bitching.

Personally I simply have no interest on FSoG whatsoever.
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Post by Harmony Ltd. on Thu Feb 12, 2015 11:27 am

@Hinds: to start the discussion, what there some of the theories thrown around?
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Post by Valikdu on Thu Feb 12, 2015 12:37 pm

In general, I'm sort of worried for the S5 opener.
Worst case scenario: the writer has spent time after S4 by reading Atlas Shrugged (or Sword of Truth) and got super inspired. And the "equal" ponies will be terrible socialism strawmen.
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Post by Tytan on Thu Feb 12, 2015 12:40 pm

My problem with FSoG is threefold.

1. It started off being a Twilight fanfiction and just changed the names.

Already off to a great start.

2. It glorifies abusive relationships, which is most certainly NOT a matter to be joked about.

3. The actors who portrayed the main characters have gone on the on record as apologizing for what garbage the movie is.

It's obviously a cash grab for what they think people like. But because movies take time to make they kind of missed the boom.
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Post by swicked on Thu Feb 12, 2015 1:05 pm

My spouse read somewhere that the main character actors had no chemistry (and never developed any) and felt really awkward about all the stuff the movie has them do together. That's got to show through on-screen at least a little.
I'm honestly kinda curious about seeing the thing. I dunno.

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Post by Harmony Ltd. on Thu Feb 12, 2015 1:09 pm

Procure it through the bay of bucaneers once it hits these shores?
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Post by Tytan on Thu Feb 12, 2015 1:20 pm

I wouldn't go to bucaneer bay.

I've heard it was covertly acquired by the FBI and is logging IP address'.
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Post by Harmony Ltd. on Thu Feb 12, 2015 1:24 pm

Indeed. But there exist alternatives.

I do not know of them, though, except maybe a site going by OldPirateBay. No knowledge as of its possible honeypot status, I must confess.
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Post by Guest on Thu Feb 12, 2015 1:49 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaAZXbQs3SM

Anyone seen this? I'm having some youtube errors so you might have to find another trailer. Not sure if it's me or these videos don't work. Don't remember anyone posting it. Trained raptors confirmed?

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Post by Tytan on Thu Feb 12, 2015 1:57 pm

Trained raptors 100% confirmed.

I would pay to see that show.

But what I like the most is the idea of the new dinosaur 'killing for sport'. Something about the concept of that gives me fucking chills.

Edit: And despite my best efforts I now know the name for the new dinosaur, and it is SO GOOD.

Spoiler:
Indomitus Rex.
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