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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by O. Hinds on Fri Jul 18, 2014 8:19 pm

Exodus Hero wrote:
O. Hinds wrote:
Ryx wrote:This /is/ a fairly odd comment for her to make, considering how much use she got out of her starmetal sword...  That radroach will be heartbroken.
Hm.  Maybe we ought to have said something about this; one of the team, I forget who (sorry!), brought this up too.  Basically, the starmetal sword and the dragon claw were both unique weapons, and the starmetal sword, on top of that, wanted to be used.  This sword, except for cultural and historical value which Blackjack doesn't appreciate, is just an ordinary sharp lump of metal.  She prefers batons in general, in other words, but will quite readily use other melee weapons if they're good enough.
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What? Sorry, whatever it was...
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by O. Hinds on Fri Jul 18, 2014 8:20 pm

Also, no one's answered my question about Nallar's epub versions, and I'm not sure how I'd check them myself.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Icy Shake on Fri Jul 18, 2014 9:53 pm

Silver136 wrote:
swicked wrote:
Somber wrote:Aoshi has put something amazing together.  He and another group of artists have put together a soundtrack for Horizons to help me out with bills and to hopefully get me to more conventions.  You can look for it here!

http://hoofingtonrises.bandcamp.com/releases
Anyone gotten this yet? If so, how is it? I haven't listened to any new Brony music in a long time.
I find myself quite liking it. I listen to some odd combo of metal, alternative, and electro and it appeals to a little of each (to me anyway). 9/10 would recommend.
On the whole, I wasn't too enthused since for the most part it's not one of my preferred genres, but there were some tracks I enjoyed well enough to give consideration for incorporating into some playlists, including I believe all the Aoshi tracks, plus 27, 28, 30, 31, 32, 34, and 37. These slanted more vocal, included a couple that were rap-based, and at least one that was more rock than electronic. For people who enjoy electronic, I suggest checking it out and seeing what strikes you.

O. Hinds wrote:Also, no one's answered my question about Nallar's epub versions, and I'm not sure how I'd check them myself.
You can just navigate to nallar.me/fics and download the EPUB, then extract with 7zip, or presumably other file extraction programs. It's only up to chapter 67, I guess because nallar updates weekly. I don't know what to do about the Kindle edition, but assume it's up to the same point.


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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Lex4art on Fri Jul 18, 2014 10:01 pm

+1 to chapter 68 awesomeness, long awaited  but delicious .
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Lex4art on Fri Jul 18, 2014 10:29 pm

Also, here small attempt to make BJ's smiles from existing MLP smile-o-pack (most made from re-colored DJ-PON3):

Actually this work better be done by serious artist (to add more "BlackJackness") but i'm far from it; hope it fun anyway .


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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by O. Hinds on Fri Jul 18, 2014 10:31 pm

Icy Shake wrote:
O. Hinds wrote:Also, no one's answered my question about Nallar's epub versions, and I'm not sure how I'd check them myself.
You can just navigate to nallar.me/fics and download the EPUB, then extract with 7zip, or presumably other file extraction programs. It's only up to chapter 67, I guess because nallar updates weekly. I don't know what to do about the Kindle edition, but assume it's up to the same point.
Ah, thank you.  I guess that the person saying that they'd not found any that went past 58 just wasn't aware of it.  It's linked on the hub page, you know.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Overlong Analysis Cobalt on Fri Jul 18, 2014 11:12 pm

Just read the chapter! Been without internet for a couple days on account of a storm (that hit where I'm currently staying, not my home, happily).
Spoiler:

My initial thought was that this was the kind of chapter I tend to like best, one without much in the way of action, but then I remembered that the fight with Hades happened, as did the brief clash with Silver Stripe and Silver Stripe Mk. II. So I guess it was just a good chapter without pandering to my tastes in dialogue-and-character-without-much-plot. :P Seriously, though, I quite enjoyed this. Was a bum and read it on the beach (downloaded it to an e-reader) while getting sunburned and chatting with family.

Anyway, high points! I really liked the levels of mortality and "humanity" that were subtly stuck in this one. Whether or not you believe that cybernetics would have a profound effect on a consciousness (I happen to think they often would), the book says that they do in this universe, and the emphasis on Blackjack's feelings of weariness, impatience, and sick worry were a fantastic nod to her being back in a fully-organic body. Could easily also be related to the loss of her cutie mark. I could be reading too much into things, but I don't think I am.

Let's see, what else? Great way to end. Obviously. It's kind of textbook, but it's textbook 'cos it works.

Loved the imposter/cosplayer ponies. It was a very cute touch, and something about it felt entirely PH; it was like a nerdy reference in a Dresden files book, or, for a classier comparison, someone reaching orgasm in a Joyce book. Yes, much classier. Oh, when I say cute, I mean something akin to "clever, but in an adorable rather than guileful way," not as in childish or what-have-you.

Thought including the new Element-bearers was a risky but sensible move. The way fate works in Equestria, Fallen Out or not, would seem to demand that they appear during a crisis of this magnitude. And this (and the original) are, at heart, fairly romantic stories, more kin to Tolkien than George R. R. Martin. For this reason, I think that they had to turn up.

Uh, ayuh! Dunno what else to say. Been a while since I wrote up a truly lengthy review of one of these episodes, I think, and this ain't one, but I did quite enjoy this one, and am greatly looking forward to the reunion with the rest of the gang. Gonna have a look-see at that bandcamp page, see if any of the songs look like they might be my kind of thing and all that. Cheers, Somber, and cheers to the editing team, too!
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Silver136 on Sat Jul 19, 2014 8:31 am

O. Hinds wrote:
Icy Shake wrote:
O. Hinds wrote:Also, no one's answered my question about Nallar's epub versions, and I'm not sure how I'd check them myself.
You can just navigate to nallar.me/fics and download the EPUB, then extract with 7zip, or presumably other file extraction programs. It's only up to chapter 67, I guess because nallar updates weekly. I don't know what to do about the Kindle edition, but assume it's up to the same point.
Ah, thank you.  I guess that the person saying that they'd not found any that went past 58 just wasn't aware of it.  It's linked on the hub page, you know.
I had no idea actually...now I wish I had. How
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by O. Hinds on Sat Jul 19, 2014 8:36 am

Sorry...
There are a variety of other versions linked there, too, if you're interested.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by SilentCarto on Sat Jul 19, 2014 2:24 pm

Okay, finally have a chance to read this. Sorry for the delay.

Chapter 68 Commentary:

“Instead of trying to send actual personnel to the moon,” Goldenblood began, “who could have learned of Horizons and disabled it, we programmed the mechasprites to build a Tree of Life and cybernetics facilities.”
Oh. Huh. Hmm. Robots are generally more efficient, since you don't have to feed them, maintain pressure, or deal with sanitation... though I guess magic talismans offset a lot of those issues.

"Unicorn Flux clones," he said, rather annoyed. "The mechasprites built the gun. We used the clones to enact rituals uncovered by Rarity in the course of Project Eternity."
Ah. Well, yes, that would be a reason to use living things. I'm a little surprised that a soulless clone can use magic, though, since Sanguine indicated that unicorn magic is a projection of the soul.

I expected more of a struggle, but the spirit seemed to allow itself to be placed in the stone.
Uh. Thaaat's... creepy... especially since we know it's not Celestia or Luna.

...Faust? :D

“I know what you’re going to do! Who you are going to serve!”
What.

“There’s been no lack of people claiming to know the events of the future. The sick. The odd. The alien. The mad. All are rumored to have insights that most ponies scoff at.”
Huh. Is that really all there is to this?...

“You decide that ponies deserve to die all the time. The ponies you’ve killed didn’t throw themselves on your bullets. You chose to shoot them. You could have run. You could have surrendered. Instead, you resorted to violence. You might call it ‘self defense’ but your self defense is exceptionally hazardous to those who challenge it.”
Ah, but that runs afoul of BJ's other maxim. "Security saves ponies." The job of the law enforcer, essentially, is to inflict violence to protect the helpless. Not to determine punishments for past crimes or destroy those who are likely to commit crimes in the future. It's not a difference of what, but of why.

My white hide was wrapped not in cybernetic plating but in dyed-black Security armor stitched to a ponyhide base. More scars crossed my skin, and my mane lay a little more chopped and wild. A pair of mirrored shades covered my eyes, reflecting the world back at him, and they gleamed along with the pair of hoofcuffs on my belt. A well-used security baton hung at my side, and I levitated up the pump-action shotgun and pointed it at his face.
This would actually be a pretty badass look, if not for the ponyhide armor. What is it with evil people and wearing skin?

“This is me as an executioner, Goldenblood. Corrupted justice,” I said in a low, rough sneer.
Huh. Suggesting that BJ's virtue is Justice?

“Very astute,” he said with a small nod. “You really are good at this,” he continued with a gesture at the emptiness all around us. “But then, you’ve probably had more practice in mindscapes than any pony since Princess Luna.”
Smart Pony Powers, activate!

“Was she Princess Luna, or Nightmare Moon?”
He sighed, closing his eyes. “That is the question.”
I think the correct answer is "no". She was Princess Luna and Nightmare Moon. Nightmare Moon wasn't some separate entity from Princess Luna -- Luna was the one declaring that "There can only be one princess in Equestria, and that princess... will be me!" in Princess Twilight Sparkle, part 1. It's ultimately pointless to draw the line between the two -- they're two faces of the same individual, just like Superman and Clark Kent.

Conducting a remote transfer to an available mobile unit.
Uh oh. Last time that happened, the available unit was Charm. Does this mean something just downloaded into Cogjack?

I chewed, his annoyance was as delicious as the contents of my bottle.
Finally a little payback for all the hours of frustration, huh?

“So what’s my metal?” I asked. “What’s my value?”
Gunmetal, duh...

“Well, I did just save his daughter from a spectral ghost, his wife likes me, and I banged his son pretty good not too long ago. Maybe his daughter soon, too.”
Yes, because Stygius worked out so very well for your other relationships, and that was with the excuse that you didn't know better.

I shut him down with a look. It was the first time I’d given that look since Cognitum had torn my cutie mark away. It was the perfect blend of overconfidence and malice sprinkled with just the right amount of mad audacity, soaked masterfully in ethanol. My shooty look.
Actually, I believe it's the first time since she got alicornicated. Lack of expressive eyes, and all that.

Also, yaaaaay! It may be a bad idea as often as good, but there's something satisfying about cutting through political bullshit with a manic grin and a gun to the crotch.

“Now. This oblivion thingy. Is it instant?” He shook his head. “Quick as you teleporting?” A slower, more unsure shake of his head. “A second or so to go off?” He paused, thought, then gave a tiny little nod.
It occurs to me that Hades has never, in his life, battled a unicorn.

The whole thing had a gothic motif and looked like it belonged in a different millennium.
To be fair, it does.

His huge sword resembled a great black bat’s wing.
...Riku? Is that you?

“And husband? Your terms?”
The question shook him from his embarrassment. “Her life!” the stallion said, pointing the sword at me dramatically.
Welp. No point in surrendering, then.

Any who leave the circle of moonlight will forfeit. Begin.
Ah. Victory by ring-out. Um... hey BJ, how good are you at teleporting other people?

The blow bit three quarters of the way through the wooden haft, and Hades sneered at me. “You shall regret your foolish and presumpt–”
I spit my mouthful of whiskey right in his eyes.
Pfffthahaha! He apparently also hasn't battled anyone who fought dirty.

No, he brought his sword right through the spinning glass. Time seemed to crawl a moment as it shattered into a dozen glistening shards. Glowing shards…
That I directed straight into his eyes.
Like I said... not used to fighting unicorns.

Persephone gaped at me in horror, as if recognizing me for the first time. “It was on… the crown.”
Oops.

Suddenly, everything in the room inverted color, and I stared around in bewilderment as I struggled to breathe with the broken ribs. A moment later, the room returned to normal. One by one, the fields of energy dissipated, and nopony dared move. Then I heard it.
Rain. Rain on the roof.
Oh! Well, that works too. Welcome to the real world, population everyone.

(At this point my notations get pretty sparse, because I can't type when I'm clinging to the edge of my seat.)

“Y’hal talsh ta much,” a stallion drawled in a muddled voice from the doorway. A heavily bandaged brown pegasus in a floppy black hat pointed the largest rifle in existence at where the cyber unicorn’s torso still stood.
...huh. Was NOT expecting that.

“I think that’s my fault,” a mare said from the doorway. The dusky gray mare with the striped blue mane gave a slightly sheepish smile as she walked into the lab.
Hail, hail, the gang's all here! Not that I didn't expect her to be with Velvet and Calamity, but... anyway.

One of them was even mine... gosh, fifty thousand caps dead, a hundred thousand alive. Those were the days... ‘Not worth it’ was written in red ink across my face.
Hehe. That's quite a statement!

Then there were tears springing down her cheeks as she screamed at top of her lungs, “Get out!”
Need next chapter need next chapter need next chapter...

Not much to say this time around. Silver Stripe's real allegiance was a bit of a surprise, but my reaction was mostly, "Well, that kinda makes sense. I don't know why I'm even surprised anymore." I've been suspicious of her ever since we found out about the eye transmission, anyway.

Mostly, I'm just eating this up with a spoon.

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That, among other lore she’d confiscated from libraries and zebras all across Equestria, allowed us to work out how to make the blanks draw in a star spirit and bind it to the stone.
"among" should be "along with".

“You can’t do anything for her?” colt-Goldenblood asked with a resigned sadness I’d rarely encountered in ones so young.
"Ones" should be "one". It's the same "one" you would use if you replaced the phrase with "someone so young".

“We’ve given as much poppy tears as we can,”
This strikes my ear oddly. It should be "as many poppy tears" or "as much of the poppy tears", or being a little more poetic, "as much of the tears of the poppy".

I would have started killing ponies I thought deserved it, but eventually I would have settled with killing anypony who pissed me off.
"settled for"

I chewed, his annoyance was as delicious as the contents of my bottle.
and his

“What do they say about good intentions? The road to hell is paved with them, right?”
Well... technically, the way Spike said it was, "The portal to hell is opened with the incantation of good intentions." But that might be a unicorn/earth pony thing.

I getting back to Glory.
I'm getting

He'd donned resplendent black gothic armor topped with a silver crown set with a huge black jewel. The whole thing had a gothic motif and looked like it belonged in a different millennium.
This isn't a correction, but the "black gothic armor" "with a gothic motif" is pretty repetitive. I'd just dump "had a gothic motif" -- using "had" as the main verb in a sentence like this comes off really weak, anyway.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Derpmind on Sat Jul 19, 2014 5:15 pm

Somber posted a new story over on fimfiction. It's only one chapter so far, but it's also gotten the usual fimfic luck of criminally low views (55 so far).

BTW, can we get a little spam going to EqD to post that Club Mixers album? I think it's where it will get the most visibility and they're much more likely to post something the more people send it in. Just shoot an email to Submit@equestriadaily.com I've sent in a few things that they've posted before and it's completely painless.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Icy Shake on Sat Jul 19, 2014 5:42 pm

Derpmind wrote:Somber posted a new story over on fimfiction. It's only one chapter so far, but it's also gotten the usual fimfic luck of criminally low views (55 so far).

BTW, can we get a little spam going to EqD to post that Club Mixers album? I think it's where it will get the most visibility and they're much more likely to post something the more people send it in. Just shoot an email to Submit@equestriadaily.com I've sent in a few things that they've posted before and it's completely painless.
Duly spammed. On "Broken Accords," and its view count, I suspect that it's a case of not having much of a follower base there, and of those he does have, I wouldn't be surprised if many are low-quality in terms of conversion into views for new stories, being either more interested in Project Horizons updates or reposts of old work. Hopefully there will be some signal boosting, but that could take a while.

UPDATE: I just got an email from EQD saying that the album will be included in the next album post.


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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Vinylshadow on Sat Jul 19, 2014 6:43 pm

I don't really mind not having a lot of views on my writings on FiMFiction

Let's see...

34 views, 5/3 like/dislike, 3 comments, two by the same person and one by me replying to him...

GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME!

I write in Fragments, so it's hard to form a story out of 'em...oh well

I'm sure there'll be a large influx of people getting 44 music tracks for $7, that's practically a steal
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Derpmind on Sat Jul 19, 2014 7:06 pm

Icy Shake wrote:UPDATE: I just got an email from EQD saying that the album will be included in the next album post.

Bah, humbug. That absolutely deserves its own post. Meh.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Icy Shake on Sat Jul 19, 2014 7:08 pm

Derpmind wrote:
Icy Shake wrote:UPDATE: I just got an email from EQD saying that the album will be included in the next album post.

Bah, humbug. That absolutely deserves its own post. Meh.
Well, if people want they can still spam asking for an individual post or submit tracks they particularly like for spotlight music consideration.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Vexd on Sat Jul 19, 2014 7:52 pm

Well, just did a binge reading of this story and made it to Ch. 62b, and out of everything that happened, only one thought stuck-
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That kid is gonna die isn't it?
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by O. Hinds on Sat Jul 19, 2014 8:26 pm

SilentCarto wrote:Okay, finally have a chance to read this. Sorry for the delay.

Chapter 68 Commentary:

“Instead of trying to send actual personnel to the moon,” Goldenblood began, “who could have learned of Horizons and disabled it, we programmed the mechasprites to build a Tree of Life and cybernetics facilities.”
Oh. Huh. Hmm. Robots are generally more efficient, since you don't have to feed them, maintain pressure, or deal with sanitation... though I guess magic talismans offset a lot of those issues.

"Unicorn Flux clones," he said, rather annoyed.  "The mechasprites built the gun.  We used the clones to enact rituals uncovered by Rarity in the course of Project Eternity."
Ah. Well, yes, that would be a reason to use living things. I'm a little surprised that a soulless clone can use magic, though, since Sanguine indicated that unicorn magic is a projection of the soul.

I expected more of a struggle, but the spirit seemed to allow itself to be placed in the stone.
Uh. Thaaat's... creepy... especially since we know it's not Celestia or Luna.

...Faust? :D

“I know what you’re going to do!  Who you are going to serve!”
What.

“There’s been no lack of people claiming to know the events of the future.  The sick.  The odd.  The alien.  The mad.  All are rumored to have insights that most ponies scoff at.”
Huh. Is that really all there is to this?...

“You decide that ponies deserve to die all the time.  The ponies you’ve killed didn’t throw themselves on your bullets.  You chose to shoot them.  You could have run.  You could have surrendered.  Instead, you resorted to violence.  You might call it ‘self defense’ but your self defense is exceptionally hazardous to those who challenge it.”
Ah, but that runs afoul of BJ's other maxim. "Security saves ponies." The job of the law enforcer, essentially, is to inflict violence to protect the helpless. Not to determine punishments for past crimes or destroy those who are likely to commit crimes in the future. It's not a difference of what, but of why.

My white hide was wrapped not in cybernetic plating but in dyed-black Security armor stitched to a ponyhide base.  More scars crossed my skin, and my mane lay a little more chopped and wild.  A pair of mirrored shades covered my eyes, reflecting the world back at him, and they gleamed along with the pair of hoofcuffs on my belt.  A well-used security baton hung at my side, and I levitated up the pump-action shotgun and pointed it at his face.
This would actually be a pretty badass look, if not for the ponyhide armor. What is it with evil people and wearing skin?

“This is me as an executioner, Goldenblood.  Corrupted justice,” I said in a low, rough sneer.
Huh. Suggesting that BJ's virtue is Justice?

“Very astute,” he said with a small nod.  “You really are good at this,” he continued with a gesture at the emptiness all around us.  “But then, you’ve probably had more practice in mindscapes than any pony since Princess Luna.”
Smart Pony Powers, activate!

“Was she Princess Luna, or Nightmare Moon?”
He sighed, closing his eyes.  “That is the question.”
I think the correct answer is "no". She was Princess Luna and Nightmare Moon. Nightmare Moon wasn't some separate entity from Princess Luna -- Luna was the one declaring that "There can only be one princess in Equestria, and that princess... will be me!" in Princess Twilight Sparkle, part 1. It's ultimately pointless to draw the line between the two -- they're two faces of the same individual, just like Superman and Clark Kent.

Conducting a remote transfer to an available mobile unit.
Uh oh. Last time that happened, the available unit was Charm. Does this mean something just downloaded into Cogjack?

I chewed, his annoyance was as delicious as the contents of my bottle.
Finally a little payback for all the hours of frustration, huh?

“So what’s my metal?” I asked.  “What’s my value?”
Gunmetal, duh...

“Well, I did just save his daughter from a spectral ghost, his wife likes me, and I banged his son pretty good not too long ago.  Maybe his daughter soon, too.”
Yes, because Stygius worked out so very well for your other relationships, and that was with the excuse that you didn't know better.

I shut him down with a look.  It was the first time I’d given that look since Cognitum had torn my cutie mark away.  It was the perfect blend of overconfidence and malice sprinkled with just the right amount of mad audacity, soaked masterfully in ethanol.  My shooty look.
Actually, I believe it's the first time since she got alicornicated. Lack of expressive eyes, and all that.

Also, yaaaaay! It may be a bad idea as often as good, but there's something satisfying about cutting through political bullshit with a manic grin and a gun to the crotch.

“Now.  This oblivion thingy.  Is it instant?”  He shook his head.  “Quick as you teleporting?”  A slower, more unsure shake of his head.  “A second or so to go off?”  He paused, thought, then gave a tiny little nod.
It occurs to me that Hades has never, in his life, battled a unicorn.

The whole thing had a gothic motif and looked like it belonged in a different millennium.
To be fair, it does.

His huge sword resembled a great black bat’s wing.
...Riku? Is that you?

“And husband?  Your terms?”
The question shook him from his embarrassment.  “Her life!” the stallion said, pointing the sword at me dramatically.
Welp. No point in surrendering, then.

Any who leave the circle of moonlight will forfeit.  Begin.
Ah. Victory by ring-out. Um... hey BJ, how good are you at teleporting other people?

The blow bit three quarters of the way through the wooden haft, and Hades sneered at me.  “You shall regret your foolish and presumpt–”
I spit my mouthful of whiskey right in his eyes.
Pfffthahaha! He apparently also hasn't battled anyone who fought dirty.

No, he brought his sword right through the spinning glass.  Time seemed to crawl a moment as it shattered into a dozen glistening shards.  Glowing shards…
That I directed straight into his eyes.
Like I said... not used to fighting unicorns.

Persephone gaped at me in horror, as if recognizing me for the first time.  “It was on… the crown.”
Oops.

Suddenly, everything in the room inverted color, and I stared around in bewilderment as I struggled to breathe with the broken ribs.  A moment later, the room returned to normal.  One by one, the fields of energy dissipated, and nopony dared move.  Then I heard it.
Rain.  Rain on the roof.
Oh! Well, that works too. Welcome to the real world, population everyone.

(At this point my notations get pretty sparse, because I can't type when I'm clinging to the edge of my seat.)

“Y’hal talsh ta much,” a stallion drawled in a muddled voice from the doorway.  A heavily bandaged brown pegasus in a floppy black hat pointed the largest rifle in existence at where the cyber unicorn’s torso still stood.
...huh. Was NOT expecting that.

“I think that’s my fault,” a mare said from the doorway.  The dusky gray mare with the striped blue mane gave a slightly sheepish smile as she walked into the lab.
Hail, hail, the gang's all here! Not that I didn't expect her to be with Velvet and Calamity, but... anyway.

One of them was even mine... gosh, fifty thousand caps dead, a hundred thousand alive.  Those were the days...  ‘Not worth it’ was written in red ink across my face.
Hehe. That's quite a statement!

Then there were tears springing down her cheeks as she screamed at top of her lungs, “Get out!”
Need next chapter need next chapter need next chapter...

Not much to say this time around. Silver Stripe's real allegiance was a bit of a surprise, but my reaction was mostly, "Well, that kinda makes sense. I don't know why I'm even surprised anymore." I've been suspicious of her ever since we found out about the eye transmission, anyway.

Mostly, I'm just eating this up with a spoon.

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That, among other lore she’d confiscated from libraries and zebras all across Equestria, allowed us to work out how to make the blanks draw in a star spirit and bind it to the stone.
"among" should be "along with".

“You can’t do anything for her?” colt-Goldenblood asked with a resigned sadness I’d rarely encountered in ones so young.
"Ones" should be "one". It's the same "one" you would use if you replaced the phrase with "someone so young".

“We’ve given as much poppy tears as we can,”
This strikes my ear oddly. It should be "as many poppy tears" or "as much of the poppy tears", or being a little more poetic, "as much of the tears of the poppy".

I would have started killing ponies I thought deserved it, but eventually I would have settled with killing anypony who pissed me off.
"settled for"

I chewed, his annoyance was as delicious as the contents of my bottle.
and his

“What do they say about good intentions?  The road to hell is paved with them, right?”
Well... technically, the way Spike said it was, "The portal to hell is opened with the incantation of good intentions." But that might be a unicorn/earth pony thing.

I getting back to Glory.
I'm getting

He'd donned resplendent black gothic armor topped with a silver crown set with a huge black jewel.  The whole thing had a gothic motif and looked like it belonged in a different millennium.
This isn't a correction, but the "black gothic armor" "with a gothic motif" is pretty repetitive. I'd just dump "had a gothic motif" -- using "had" as the main verb in a sentence like this comes off really weak, anyway.
Ah, thank you.

SilentCarto wrote:"Ones" should be "one". It's the same "one" you would use if you replaced the phrase with "someone so young".
Hm…  I'm sorry, but that just doesn't sound right to me.

SilentCarto wrote:"settled for"
Hm.  I think that that changes the meaning.  Sorry.

SilentCarto wrote:Oh. Huh. Hmm. Robots are generally more efficient, since you don't have to feed them, maintain pressure, or deal with sanitation... though I guess magic talismans offset a lot of those issues.
This came up in the discussion, I believe.  Basically, yes, in the long term, it would have been more efficient to design robots that could cast the spell.  That would have taken longer and been more expensive in the short term, however, and that was judged to be more important.  Particularly since that extra time and resource requirement would have made it more difficult to keep the Project hidden.

SilentCarto wrote:This would actually be a pretty badass look, if not for the ponyhide armor. What is it with evil people and wearing skin?
Well, the ponyhide would be because of the Reaper thing.

Derpmind wrote:Somber posted a new story over on fimfiction. It's only one chapter so far, but it's also gotten the usual fimfic luck of criminally low views (55 so far).
Aye!  Go read it, people!  It's good!

Vexd wrote:Well, just did a binge reading of this story and made it to Ch. 62b, and out of everything that happened, only one thought stuck-
spoiler:
That kid is gonna die isn't it?
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Rayndalf on Sat Jul 19, 2014 10:10 pm

WavemasterRyx wrote:
Rayndalf wrote:
Speaking of Waifus:
Wonder what Blackjack is going to do to Cogs to avenge the hurtful things done to her Waifu. 
I'm glad Blackjack maxed out her speech skill, hopefully she will have no problem passing the three speech checks required to convince Glory of her identity.
Spoiler:
In the Boo-verse, Cognitum spends most of the day running away from fillies and colts with dart guns trying to get good luck or "earn their achievement".  Suction cups work great on a metal butt.
Harassing Cogs with nerf guns is all fine and dandy until some colt breaks out the potato cannon in hopes of earning a slew of potato-pun laden achievements 

Bonus for dousing the potato in vodka first

Vexd wrote:Well, just did a binge reading of this story and made it to Ch. 62b, and out of everything that happened, only one thought stuck-
spoiler:
That kid is gonna die isn't it?
What which kid? 

I hope my faulty memory isn't some kind of spoiler...

Edit: Blackjack ought to change her name back to Go Fish, and wonder off into the wasteland rediscovering her "roots" (you know beating the %^*# out of raiders and the like). After regaining her notoriety and hopefully some allies, she can stage a coup, and take down Cogs, then reveal her "true" identity.


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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Vexd on Sat Jul 19, 2014 10:22 pm

Rayndalf wrote:
WavemasterRyx wrote:
Rayndalf wrote:
Speaking of Waifus:
Wonder what Blackjack is going to do to Cogs to avenge the hurtful things done to her Waifu. 
I'm glad Blackjack maxed out her speech skill, hopefully she will have no problem passing the three speech checks required to convince Glory of her identity.
Spoiler:
In the Boo-verse, Cognitum spends most of the day running away from fillies and colts with dart guns trying to get good luck or "earn their achievement".  Suction cups work great on a metal butt.
Harassing Cogs with nerf guns is all fine and dandy until some colt breaks out the potato cannon in hopes of earning a slew of potato-pun laden achievements 

Vexd wrote:Well, just did a binge reading of this story and made it to Ch. 62b, and out of everything that happened, only one thought stuck-
spoiler:
That kid is gonna die isn't it?
What which kid? 

I hope my faulty memory isn't some kind of spoiler...

Spoiler:
The one currently residing in Blackjack's uterus
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Rayndalf on Sat Jul 19, 2014 10:36 pm

Vexd wrote:
Spoiler:
The one currently residing in Blackjack's uterus
 
Pshh...:
If its anything like Blackjack it'd take a lot to do that, Blackjack has shown herself to be a Rasputin in her own right.

Edit: ch. 66 would be the source of my confusion.


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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Vexd on Sat Jul 19, 2014 11:28 pm

Rayndalf wrote:
Vexd wrote:
Spoiler:
The one currently residing in Blackjack's uterus
 
Pshh...:
If its anything like Blackjack it'd take a lot to do that, Blackjack has shown herself to be a Rasputin in her own right.

Edit: ch. 66 would be the source of my confusion.
Well, there's one critical flaw to that
Critical flaw:
Blackjack's Special Talent is literally described as victory no matter the cost. While it more or less guarantees she'll survive, it doesn't extend to those around her (or rather in this case IN her) nor does it mean she'll come out in one piece

I guess what I'm afraid of is that becoming the final kicker before the end, I just want Bjackjack to get her
Spoiler:
"best damn mommy"
ending along with her sunshine and rainbows
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Rayndalf on Sat Jul 19, 2014 11:48 pm

Vexd wrote:
Rayndalf wrote:
Vexd wrote:
Spoiler:
The one currently residing in Blackjack's uterus
 
Pshh...:
If its anything like Blackjack it'd take a lot to do that, Blackjack has shown herself to be a Rasputin in her own right.

Edit: ch. 66 would be the source of my confusion.
Well, there's one critical flaw to that
Critical flaw:
Blackjack's Special Talent is literally described as victory no matter the cost. While it more or less guarantees she'll survive, it doesn't extend to those around her (or rather in this case IN her) nor does it mean she'll come out in one piece

I guess what I'm afraid of is that becoming the final kicker before the end, I just want Bjackjack to get her
Spoiler:
"best damn mommy"
ending along with her sunshine and rainbows
So you assume:
That Cog's understanding of Blackjack's talent is accurate? If her name was Go Fish would you interpret her cutie mark any differently?
It just occurred to me that Blackjack out "rasputined" Rasputin chapters ago... Applebloom
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Post by Rayndalf on Sun Jul 20, 2014 1:27 am

Just read the first chapter of Broken Accords and found a couple issues, but still enjoyed it, that said I found my self to lazy to create a new account elsewhere, and figured I'd just post 'em here.

Broken Accords Ch. 1:

Broken Accords Ch. 1 wrote:"Oh, that a whole nother story,"
apostrophe before the n? would 'nother be more correct? I really don't know

Broken Accords Ch. 1 wrote:"...We don’t get call for crazy weather flying out in Ponyville… ever."
calls?

At times the tense felt off, like the majority of the story was originally written in first person, then the "I"s were changed to "she"s, though it retracted little from the work. 

Regardless, I enjoyed the story a great deal, and it help cope with the cliffhanger of ch. 68
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by SilentCarto on Sun Jul 20, 2014 3:28 pm

O. Hinds wrote:
SilentCarto wrote:"Ones" should be "one". It's the same "one" you would use if you replaced the phrase with "someone so young".
Hm…  I'm sorry, but that just doesn't sound right to me.
You always say "...in (or for) one so young". It's a set phrase. The "one" in this context is Goldie. It's unusual to see such sadness in a person, singular, as young as him; in one (who is) so young.

O. Hinds wrote:
SilentCarto wrote:"settled for"
Hm.  I think that that changes the meaning.  Sorry.
You're darn right it changes the meaning -- because it currently means the wrong thing. "Settle with" means "come to an agreement". Are you seriously saying BJ would have come to an agreement with people to kill them?

O. Hinds wrote:
SilentCarto wrote:Oh. Huh. Hmm. Robots are generally more efficient, since you don't have to feed them, maintain pressure, or deal with sanitation... though I guess magic talismans offset a lot of those issues.
This came up in the discussion, I believe.  Basically, yes, in the long term, it would have been more efficient to design robots that could cast the spell.  That would have taken longer and been more expensive in the short term, however, and that was judged to be more important.  Particularly since that extra time and resource requirement would have made it more difficult to keep the Project hidden.
Yeah, I meant to come back and add a line there that while robots could have built the weapon more efficiently, they wouldn't have been able to enact the spells, so it makes sense again.

O. Hinds wrote:
SilentCarto wrote:This would actually be a pretty badass look, if not for the ponyhide armor. What is it with evil people and wearing skin?
Well, the ponyhide would be because of the Reaper thing.
Being a Reaper doesn't mean you HAVE to wear the skin of people you killed. Rampage doesn't.

It makes sense in some specific cases, like taking advantage of the usefulness of dragonhide, but mostly it's just gross.

Rayndalf wrote:It just occurred to me that Blackjack out "rasputined" Rasputin chapters ago... Applebloom
Hehehe. Rasputin didn't really take an unusual amount of killing -- the legend can mostly be chalked up to amateur assassins who seemed to think a gunshot instantly stopped all biological functions, followed by other amateurs who didn't know how to burn a body. (PROTIP: Always cut the tendons.)
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Post by Vinylshadow on Sun Jul 20, 2014 3:54 pm

I don't remember if it was really explained HOW Blackjack came back to life...

What are we up to now...three times?

...I really need to reread Horizons, but I've got a lot going on, like making Team Fortress 2 into solid gold....
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Post by Dutcher on Sun Jul 20, 2014 7:14 pm

Vinylshadow wrote:I don't remember if it was really explained HOW Blackjack came back to life...

What are we up to now...three times?

...I really need to reread Horizons, but I've got a lot going on, like making Team Fortress 2 into solid gold....
First time because of SS
Second time because of the anchor used by snips or snails, cant even remember by now.
Third time is the whole Discord thing i think?
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by O. Hinds on Sun Jul 20, 2014 7:38 pm

SilentCarto wrote:You always say "...in (or for) one so young". It's a set phrase. The "one" in this context is Goldie. It's unusual to see such sadness in a person, singular, as young as him; in one (who is) so young.
Ah, I don't think that I was aware that it was a set phrase. Hm…
Well, I still don't like it, but I guess that I'd better make the change.

SilentCarto wrote:You're darn right it changes the meaning -- because it currently means the wrong thing. "Settle with" means "come to an agreement". Are you seriously saying BJ would have come to an agreement with people to kill them?
Hm. Then they're both wrong, I think. I'll see what I can come up with.

SilentCarto wrote:Yeah, I meant to come back and add a line there that while robots could have built the weapon more efficiently, they wouldn't have been able to enact the spells, so it makes sense again.
Oh, robots could have cast the spells, but the technology for that would have had to have been developed.

SilentCarto wrote:Being a Reaper doesn't mean you HAVE to wear the skin of people you killed. Rampage doesn't.

It makes sense in some specific cases, like taking advantage of the usefulness of dragonhide, but mostly it's just gross.
Hm, point, but I'd say that it makes sense. Sure, Rampage, Gorgon, and Psychoshy didn't wear the armor, but Rampage was unkillable, Gorgon had natural armor, and armor didn't really fit Psychoshy's character. For Reaper!Security, on the other hoof, armor is both practical and part of the character.
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Post by Blue Heron on Sun Jul 20, 2014 11:50 pm

Sooo, hi! Long time lurker, Huge Fan of MLP, both the originals and FIM. And I love, love Project Horizons, even better than Fallout Equestria.

I hope this hasn't already been answered, I couldn't find it but these threads move so quickly, so if it has, smack my hoof and call me a bad newb.

Question About Whisper:
She was bonded to blank of herself, correct? so her constant orgies with Sty wont result in a kid because Blanks are sterile, as said by Cogs and Confirmed by Goldie

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Post by Icy Shake on Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:23 am

I believe that that's not the case. She was delivered prematurely, and kept in stasis by Sanguine in case he ever had a use for her (extortion, what have you), but she wasn't ever moved to a clone body. She can probably conceive, carry, and deliver a child.
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Post by Blue Heron on Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:57 am

Hmmmm, this is what trueblood said in chapter 39, but I could be reading it wrong:


“Yes.  I built the first stasis pod prototype myself, in my garage actually, just as Chimera was set up for Fluttershy… so that nopony would ever have to go through what she did.  I don’t know what happened between them; he was always so cool around her that it never occurred to me they were in a relationship.  We perfected the stasis pods, so we thought; I should have been rich from the invention... but ah well.  Then came fusion spells to improve on ponies.  Blanks were introduced last as a source of organs and test material.  I was able to fuse the infant with a healthy pegasus blank of her own body, and that stabilized her enough to survive.”

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