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Post by Loud_Taffy on Sat Mar 22, 2014 12:07 am

Just got confused for a sec thx.
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Post by RoboRed on Sat Mar 22, 2014 12:47 am

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Post by Derpmind on Sat Mar 22, 2014 1:38 am

SilentCarto wrote:She did, but Discord was driving at that point.

We still don't have any hard info yet on Discord and Boo's relationship. I... accuse you! Of making an assumption. Anyways, until Somber clarifies, any theoretical Boo porn is still plausible.
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Post by Shady on Sat Mar 22, 2014 7:44 am

Loud_Taffy wrote:I have read everything from Harry potter to pendragon, Star Trek, and FoE. I can say with confidence that this is the most gripping and satisfying plot I have read so far. I started reading last week and I am now halfway through ch. 64. I've prob ruined my eyesight reading on my phone but still best story I've read so far.  
If you have the cash for it you might seriously consider buying an e-reader, I doubt that even a certain purple pony could handle so much text on a phone Twilight crazy


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O. Hinds wrote:And yes, as swicked said, we hope to get it out this weekend or the next.
Best case scenario we get it out this weekend. There's a lot of work for a single day, but Hinds has said they've done as much before. Not in my experience, but I'm new.
Most likely next weekend, barring something dramatic.
Wait, a single day?  What?  Do you know something I don't?

As far as I'm aware, we've a full session scheduled for Saturday and six hours on Sunday.
Sunday night releases are the best! I can't imagine how many money was lost because PH-readers were reading until deep in the night and were all sleepy and shizzle at work the next day Spike


On a more serious note, are you planning to integrate new stuff from S4 into the story or did you at some point said ''this is the canon I work with and that's it.''
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Silver136 on Sat Mar 22, 2014 9:24 am

Shady wrote:
Loud_Taffy wrote:I have read everything from Harry potter to pendragon, Star Trek, and FoE. I can say with confidence that this is the most gripping and satisfying plot I have read so far. I started reading last week and I am now halfway through ch. 64. I've prob ruined my eyesight reading on my phone but still best story I've read so far.  
If you have the cash for it you might seriously consider buying an e-reader, I doubt that even a certain purple pony could handle so much text on a phone Twilight crazy
Actually, I've read PH three times now on my phone using an old PDF of it. It only goes to chapter 53 or so, but once I reach that I read the Google doc in my phones browser...
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Post by Moodyman90 on Sat Mar 22, 2014 9:39 am

With is being as late in the game as it is, one shouldn't expect too much post season 3 to show up in the story. Maud Pie, Cheese Sandwich, and something about the Breezies may get named checked, even a Memory Orb appearance if they're really lucky. If there was a hard cut off point, it would be right before Magic Mystery Cure so Twilight didn't become an Alicorn, but if Somber sees fit and the brushing team is okay with it they may fit something from season 4 in under the idea of "a similar event happened in this time line, except Twilight wasn't an alicorn."

At least that's the idea and feeling I've gotten from reading all these years. Naturally Somber probably has other things in mind. I'm just reminded how not long after season 2 ended, he said he wouldn't be using Cadance or Shining Armor. Well Cadance got name dropped in a memory orb a couple of chapters later and somewhere along the line it was decided that King Awesome would claimed to be a decedent of Shining Armor and Cadance. There's no way to prove he was or wasn't, and Cadance hasn't been confirmed if she's an alicorn or just a regular unicorn, but I took it as Somber will use nearly introduced characters and concepts from the show provided he can come up with a way to do so naturally.

But it's safe to say that PH takes place in an alternate universe where, while similar events portrayed in the show could have happened, not everything in the show happened and not always in the same way if they did.
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Post by SilentCarto on Sat Mar 22, 2014 9:45 am

Derpmind wrote:
SilentCarto wrote:She did, but Discord was driving at that point.

We still don't have any hard info yet on Discord and Boo's relationship. I... accuse you! Of making an assumption.
Well, given BJ's view of Discord while on the moonstone high, I don't think it's a poor assumption to make.

Derpmind wrote:Anyways, until Somber clarifies, any theoretical Boo porn is still plausible.
Er, what? I was just pointing out that Boo's embarrassment came after Discord checked out her head. It's therefore more likely that Discord (who already understands social norms and mores) was the embarrassed one, rather than Boo spontaneously starting to understand the concepts of privacy and shame (which are normally instilled by parents during childhood) well enough to have a physical embarrassment reaction.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Silver136 on Sat Mar 22, 2014 9:48 am



Derpmind wrote:Anyways, until Somber clarifies, any theoretical Boo porn is still plausible.
Er, what? I was just pointing out that Boo's embarrassment came after Discord checked out her head. It's therefore more likely that Discord (who already understands social norms and mores) was the embarrassed one, rather than Boo spontaneously starting to understand the concepts of privacy and shame (which are normally instilled by parents during childhood) well enough to have a physical embarrassment reaction.
As I recall, Blackjack had to clean up after Boo because she kept relieving herself on the floor. Not much form privacy that...
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by SilentCarto on Sat Mar 22, 2014 9:53 am

Shady wrote:On a more serious note, are you planning to integrate new stuff from S4 into the story or did you at some point said ''this is the canon I work with and that's it.''
I believe the stated cutoff was somewhere around It's About Time. As Moody said, though, some concepts sneak in from the wrong side of the cutoff if they can be integrated without disrupting the existing canon too badly.

Silver136 wrote:As I recall, Blackjack had to clean up after Boo because she kept relieving herself on the floor. Not much form privacy that...
What of it? When Boo acts like an ordinary animal, that probably means Discord wasn't "pulling any strings" at that moment.

The null hypothesis -- the state of "nothing unusual has occurred" -- in this case is, "Boo is just an animal and nothing more." Now, we have ample evidence that the null hypothesis is incorrect, so any divergence from that norm, including unusual displays of intelligence, maturity, luck, or precognition, need to be explained. And it requires less assumptions to say, "That was Discord's influence" than to say, "Boo suddenly got smarter."
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Silver136 on Sat Mar 22, 2014 10:16 am

Silver136 wrote:As I recall, Blackjack had to clean up after Boo because she kept relieving herself on the floor. Not much form privacy that...
What of it? When Boo acts like an ordinary animal, that probably means Discord wasn't "pulling any strings" at that moment.

The null hypothesis -- the state of "nothing unusual has occurred" -- in this case is, "Boo is just an animal and nothing more." Now, we have ample evidence that the null hypothesis is incorrect, so any divergence from that norm, including unusual displays of intelligence, maturity, luck, or precognition, need to be explained. And it requires less assumptions to say, "That was Discord's influence" than to say, "Boo suddenly got smarter."
That's exactly what I meant. Boo acts like an animal, showing very little intelligence until Discord stepped in.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by swicked on Sat Mar 22, 2014 10:27 am

Not to discourage conversation on the subject, but the next chapter will resolve these questions.

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Post by Silver136 on Sat Mar 22, 2014 10:28 am

Well that just makes me sad. Spoiler alert!
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Post by swicked on Sat Mar 22, 2014 10:32 am

Silver136 wrote:Well that just makes me sad. Spoiler alert!
...I didn't say in which way, and I thought it would be obvious that Blackjack's going to ask Discord about Boo as soon as she can.
This is definitely something she'd care about.

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Post by Silver136 on Sat Mar 22, 2014 10:34 am

swicked wrote:
Silver136 wrote:Well that just makes me sad. Spoiler alert!
...I didn't say in which way, and I thought it would be obvious that Blackjack's going to ask Discord about Boo as soon as she can.
This is definitely something she'd care about.
I know, I know. I'm just playing around I guess.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Harmony Ltd. on Sat Mar 22, 2014 10:34 am

Icy Shake wrote:
Loud_Taffy wrote:I have read everything from Harry potter to pendragon, Star Trek, and FoE. I can say with confidence that this is the most gripping and satisfying plot I have read so far. I started reading last week and I am now halfway through ch. 64. I've prob ruined my eyesight reading on my phone but still best story I've read so far.  
I love the story and can appreciate the benefit of mobility, but nevertheless I must ask, at least rhetorically: why would you do that to yourself‽
I did pretty much the same thing with most of the original FoE and PH up until chapter 27, because I was absorbed in it and was away from my computer, during class hours.
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Post by RoboRed on Sat Mar 22, 2014 11:23 am

Harmony Ltd. wrote:
Icy Shake wrote:
Loud_Taffy wrote:I have read everything from Harry potter to pendragon, Star Trek, and FoE. I can say with confidence that this is the most gripping and satisfying plot I have read so far. I started reading last week and I am now halfway through ch. 64. I've prob ruined my eyesight reading on my phone but still best story I've read so far.  
I love the story and can appreciate the benefit of mobility, but nevertheless I must ask, at least rhetorically: why would you do that to yourself‽
I did pretty much the same thing with most of the original FoE and PH up until chapter 27, because I was absorbed in it and was away from my computer, during class hours.
Same, except most of my time was while at work. Thank god for smartphones.

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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Moodyman90 on Sat Mar 22, 2014 11:48 am

Going back to Maud Pie, she puts forth some interesting questions now. Like how did she react when her little sister was on PTM or did something pertaining to Maud drive Pinkie to using them more. And more related to PH, as an expert on rocks, was she brought in to examine the moon rocks or was she not around for some reason or another?
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Post by Aonee on Sat Mar 22, 2014 11:56 am

Moodyman90 wrote:And more related to PH, as an expert on rocks, was she brought in to examine the moon rocks or was she not around for some reason or another?
Most likely she was seen as a "civilian," and not worth it/allowable to bring her in on these kinds of matters. Of course, I'm assuming that the whole studying-moon-rocks-and-star-metal thing was considered top secret. Doesn't seem like the kind of thing to be open to the public.
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Post by Moodyman90 on Sat Mar 22, 2014 11:59 am

As close as she is to Pinkie, and Pinkie to her, only way I can see her not involved is if she decided not to be involved.
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Post by Silver136 on Sat Mar 22, 2014 11:59 am

Moodyman90 wrote:Going back to Maud Pie, she puts forth some interesting questions now. Like how did she react when her little sister was on PTM or did something pertaining to Maud drive Pinkie to using them more. And more related to PH, as an expert on rocks, was she brought in to examine the moon rocks or was she not around for some reason or another?
We saw she had some ridiculous strength, and she was knowledgeable on rocks. If she didn't work under Horse or Trottenheimer she probably joined the army. As for PTM's, perhaps Maud was killed in a battle or announced "missing" when she theoretically joined the OIA.
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Post by swicked on Sat Mar 22, 2014 12:25 pm

None of Pinkie's family was ever mentioned in FoE, IIRC, and they were introduced in the first season. I imagine their fate was her fate, though.

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Post by O. Hinds on Sat Mar 22, 2014 1:56 pm

Moodyman90 wrote:Maud Pie, Cheese Sandwich, and something about the Breezies may get named checked
I highly doubt it. Somber has surprised me before, but I very much doubt that those could be made to fit.

Moodyman90 wrote:Going back to Maud Pie, she puts forth some interesting questions now. Like how did she react when her little sister was on PTM or did something pertaining to Maud drive Pinkie to using them more. And more related to PH, as an expert on rocks, was she brought in to examine the moon rocks or was she not around for some reason or another?
And, more pertinent, I'd say: what happened to stop Pinkie Pie from trusting her? Again, unfortunately, I don't think that she can be made to fit. If Somber did figure out a way, though, I imagine that it would be awesome.
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Post by Moodyman90 on Sat Mar 22, 2014 2:18 pm

Like I said before, this late in the game it's highly improbable, but not impossible.

I think I've said this before but while reading the original FoE, you could tell when there had been a new episode released by the newest chapter. X character was introduced or Y event happened and a chapter or two after said episode a reference to them would appear. I'd actually have to go back and try to find the actual dates between a new episode and chapter, but you could tell events from season 2 where thrown into the story.

Granted I read FoE around this time two years ago now and it was three months finished when I did get around to reading it. So with the chapters being back to back it probably only seemed like "new episode, chapter with reference to said episode, new episode and another new chapter with a reference to that one" and there was in fact weeks to months gaps in between an episode and chapter.

Compare to PH, where a character introduced in season 3 didn't get named checked until three or four chapters ago when we was well into season 4. Since there's the wait for new chapters it probably helps space out the "new episode, new chapter with reference to said episode", but it doesn't seem like Somber goes out of his way to include something new until way down the line if he can fit it in.

If Somber can find a way he and ya'll can agree to make something fit, he will cause we've seen it before, but it'll be a name check if anything at this point.
Still, would be interesting to see Maud Pie's influence of the story at large, but tis a tale for another day short of massive retcons and rewrites to make them fit into PH, and I don't see that happening.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Loud_Taffy on Sat Mar 22, 2014 3:29 pm

Moodyman90 wrote:If Somber can find a way he and ya'll can agree to make something fit, he will cause we've seen it before, but it'll be a name check if anything at this point.
Still, would be interesting to see Maud Pie's influence of the story at large, but tis a tale for another day short of massive retcons and rewrites to make them fit into PH, and I don't see that happening.

  Maybe Maud was involved in Goldenblood's rock club, and was killed at the school. That's why Pinkie started using Mint-all's and eventually created PTM.
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Post by Evilgidgit on Sat Mar 22, 2014 6:04 pm

Loud_Taffy wrote:
Moodyman90 wrote:If Somber can find a way he and ya'll can agree to make something fit, he will cause we've seen it before, but it'll be a name check if anything at this point.
Still, would be interesting to see Maud Pie's influence of the story at large, but tis a tale for another day short of massive retcons and rewrites to make them fit into PH, and I don't see that happening.

  Maybe Maud was involved in Goldenblood's rock club, and was killed at the school. That's why Pinkie started using Mint-all's and eventually created PTM.
Hi, there, Loud Taffy.  Lyra 

That could work well, although Pinkie's first taking of mint-als was seen in a memory orb by Blackjack earlier in the story, and that was caused by Twist gave Pinkie some peppermint sticks with the zebra herbs in them.

Speaking of call backs, I wonder what anyone's headcanon for Cheerilee is, since we last saw her in chapter six, and head of the education department of the MoP right?
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by SilentCarto on Sat Mar 22, 2014 7:30 pm

O. Hinds wrote:
Moodyman90 wrote:Going back to Maud Pie, she puts forth some interesting questions now. Like how did she react when her little sister was on PTM or did something pertaining to Maud drive Pinkie to using them more. And more related to PH, as an expert on rocks, was she brought in to examine the moon rocks or was she not around for some reason or another?
And, more pertinent, I'd say: what happened to stop Pinkie Pie from trusting her?  Again, unfortunately, I don't think that she can be made to fit.  If Somber did figure out a way, though, I imagine that it would be awesome.
Sadly, Maud never met Ministry Mare Pinkie Pie. At the time that Littlehoof was bombed and Princess Celestia abdicated the throne, Maud and a crew of expert geologists were searching for coal-bearing deposits out beyond the southern badlands. In the night, a hillside they had all assessed as stable spawned a tremendous rockslide that buried the camp and killed the entire expedition.

Spoiler:



Or did it?
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Post by SilentCarto on Sat Mar 22, 2014 7:36 pm

Loud_Taffy wrote:  Maybe Maud was involved in Goldenblood's rock club, and was killed at the school. That's why Pinkie started using Mint-all's and eventually created PTM.
Hmm. At her age, she would have to have been staff rather than a student, but that could work. Then again, the way the Mane Six were insulated even from each other, Maud may have already been getting the stonewall treatment (heh) even before Pinkie got heavily addicted.
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Post by Loud_Taffy on Sun Mar 23, 2014 6:55 pm

It's so quiet in here.
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Post by Silver136 on Sun Mar 23, 2014 7:04 pm

Loud_Taffy wrote:It's so quiet in here.
Probably pre-release blues, or at least that's what I call it. The silence before the new chapter is released and discussion begins anew.
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Post by Exodus Hero on Sun Mar 23, 2014 7:07 pm

Silver136 wrote:
Loud_Taffy wrote:It's so quiet in here.
Probably pre-release blues, or at least that's what I call it. The silence before the new chapter is released and discussion begins anew.
I got the notification that the forum updated and I thought it was because the chapter updated but now I'm just disappointed.
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