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S04E03- Castle Maneia

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Post by Guest Sat Nov 30, 2013 1:34 pm

AJ: Do you believe in ghosts Rainbow?

RD: No.

AJ: That white hoof on your shoulder must be fake then...

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Post by Meleagridis Sat Nov 30, 2013 2:07 pm

Haunted house episode. Good. Episode itself wasn't stellar, but it's always nice to check something off of the 'required children's show premise' list.

It was silly. And if I'm being honest, I laughed. And for being such a light-hearted one, it sure lives in the past a lot. Given the season opener's lore focus, I'm wondering if more of this season will have that.
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Post by Downloaded Skill Sat Nov 30, 2013 3:08 pm

Honestly I thought this episode was pretty mediocre from an entertainment and story standpoint. I'll give the new writer credit though, he really had a good understanding of most of the characters sans pinkie. Pinkie has gotten more childish in this season and I really don't want her to become a "we need something wacky to happen so lets have her do it" character. I usually like it when a character lampshades an improbability, but when she commented that she didn't know how to play the organ while playing it flawlessly it just felt even cheaper.

I also thought the plot and some of the traps seemed contrived and how everything important, the traps and the books, was in mint condition while everything else was falling apart. I guess I just prefer more character driven episodes.

This episode does suggest some interesting things though. There was a male alicorn statue, the journal implies that Celestial built the castle to be that creepy for Luna's sake, and the shadow pony actually exists. I hope it just doesn't disappear though, that would just be a waste.
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Post by OneMoreDaySK Sat Nov 30, 2013 8:14 pm

"Pony of Shadows is just an old mare's tale"
Coming from the one who was proving NMM existed.

Wasn't Pinkie the one who doesn't like scaring Fluttershy, or was all the keystrokes to castle traps random happenstance? 

Pinkie as the bell ringer was hilarious though, as well as Twilight not giving a feather about the spooky noises.

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Post by Moodyman90 Sat Nov 30, 2013 9:51 pm

Just watched the episode and thought I'd do the running thought commentary.

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Overall I enjoyed it. Guess it's too soon to actually find a key for the chest, or even to learn much about it, but maybe this will set up more stuff for later, like an enemy. And I guess a share journal is a good enough substitute for the letters to Celestia.
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Post by Guest Sat Nov 30, 2013 9:58 pm

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And yet something still lurks.... looks to be like some of the leftover Darkness of Nightmare Moon to me. If it's evil that is.
Reminded me of Zecora's eyes. Pinkie's a tarp thief.

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Post by Moodyman90 Sat Nov 30, 2013 10:00 pm

I goofed up, I typed familiar eyes when talking about the paintings watching. To be honest I didn't recognized the eye, but the painting itself.

Though yes, the glowy yellow eyes at the end did look like the same one they used for Zecora, but it's not uncommon for them to reused stuff like that.
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Post by Guest Sat Nov 30, 2013 10:06 pm

Yup, they're certainly guilty of that.

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Post by CamoBadger Sun Dec 01, 2013 12:01 am

Ugh, this season man...
At least we seem to be done with letters about... oh wait, nevermind. 

Also, hello new villain, glad we won't see you again until the season finale if this follows the same trend as last season. And honestly I wouldn't mind that because I saw you in the new promo. You look horrible and you should feel horrible.
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Post by Moodyman90 Sun Dec 01, 2013 2:27 am

I don't think you was the only one. Dialogue is something I take for granted and generally like anything that isn't stiff exposition or word vomit.

I did enjoy the back and forth between the characters.
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Post by Downloaded Skill Sun Dec 01, 2013 2:48 am

The thing about the dialogue was that it was pretty much only focused on their own individual goals. Rarity never really shifted off her restoration topic, Fluttershy kept going on about Angel, Twilight obsessed over books, AJ and RD kept going on about who was the bravest pony. They may have talked, but to me there wasn't much in the way of actual conversation. No one really acknowledged the others points. They might as well have just talked to themselves.
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Post by jacky2734 Sun Dec 01, 2013 3:53 am

Did anyone else catch the part where the journal said that the sole purpose of the trap doors, secret passages and creepy decorations were for the amusement of the Princesses?
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Post by Formis_Fluttergod Sun Dec 01, 2013 8:54 am

I liked it, though considering it started off as a plot-driven episode I would've liked if it stayed there. Once they all decided to venture into the castle it became kinda clear what's gonna happen but that made it more hilarious to watch. The interaction between them was well-done (For some reason I really liked Rarity's line "She's with me.", don't ask me why.).
The eyes at the end, yeah, Zecora comes to mind first, but who knows. It's probable they'll never tell us. Twilight crazy 

Downloaded Skill wrote:... Pinkie has gotten more childish in this season and I really don't want her to become a "we need something wacky to happen so lets have her do it" character. I usually like it when a character lampshades an improbability, but when she commented that she didn't know how to play the organ while playing it flawlessly it just felt even cheaper.
To be fair, she said she didn't know she could play it, not that she didn't know how to play it. Spike 

CamoBadger wrote:Ugh, this season man...
At least we seem to be done with letters about... oh wait, nevermind.

Also, hello new villain, glad we won't see you again until the season finale if this follows the same trend as last season. And honestly I wouldn't mind that because I saw you in the new promo. You look horrible and you should feel horrible.
You didn't like them sending letters to Celestia? How did you make it through the first two seasons? Derpy Hooves 
And which new promo are you talking about?

OneMoreDaySK wrote:Wasn't Pinkie the one who doesn't like scaring Fluttershy, or was all the keystrokes to castle traps random happenstance?
I'd say she found out the organ could activate some of the traps in the castle, but didn't know what keys did what.
Coicidence, as improbable as that is with Pinkie Pie.
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Post by Moodyman90 Sun Dec 01, 2013 11:08 am

Chances are that if Pinkie knew playing the organ was activating traps and was the direct cause of scaring Fluttershy she probably wouldn't do it, if the writer cared about continuity.

That said, did Pinkie even know what the organ did or was she just playing it to play it cause "Party!"?  I mean, it would make ore sense if she didn't know the organ was activating trap doors and whatnot and just happened to have good timing since she almost sent Applejack falling off the side of the castle.
For the Princesses( with their wings) or not, a door that leads to a sudden drop outside of the castle that over a cliff is not safe.
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Post by Aonee Sun Dec 01, 2013 12:16 pm

I think the door being there makes sense. Since all the things there were to keep Luna entertained, that seemed like a pretty good place to take off for a quick flight. Not sure why it was connected to the organ though.
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Post by Moodyman90 Sun Dec 01, 2013 12:55 pm

Well it was called the Organ to the Outside or whatever. But I'm just saying, for ponies who can't fly that door is a death trap.
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Post by CamoBadger Sun Dec 01, 2013 1:22 pm

CamoBadger wrote:Ugh, this season man...
At least we seem to be done with letters about... oh wait, nevermind.

Also, hello new villain, glad we won't see you again until the season finale if this follows the same trend as last season. And honestly I wouldn't mind that because I saw you in the new promo. You look horrible and you should feel horrible.
You didn't like them sending letters to Celestia? How did you make it through the first two seasons? Derpy Hooves 
And which new promo are you talking about?
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Post by Aonee Sun Dec 01, 2013 2:30 pm

Moodyman90 wrote:Well it was called the Organ to the Outside or whatever. But I'm just saying, for ponies who can't fly that door is a death trap.
Yea, it would make sense if you activated the thing when you were there; Earth Ponies and Unicorns could completely avoid it while Luna could easily use it. I don't really understand why the switch for it is in a faraway roomthat would take someone else playing the organ to activate for Luna. Maybe Skew had some magic thingy to communicate with whoever was in the organ room?
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Post by Formis_Fluttergod Sun Dec 01, 2013 5:58 pm

CamoBadger wrote:
CamoBadger wrote:Ugh, this season man...
At least we seem to be done with letters about... oh wait, nevermind.

Also, hello new villain, glad we won't see you again until the season finale if this follows the same trend as last season. And honestly I wouldn't mind that because I saw you in the new promo. You look horrible and you should feel horrible.
You didn't like them sending letters to Celestia? How did you make it through the first two seasons? Derpy Hooves 
And which new promo are you talking about?
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