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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Guest on Thu Dec 19, 2013 8:16 am

Silver136 wrote:
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Luminous Lead wrote:And at least a quarter of them are DIRECTLY related to Twilight Sparkle.

Wat.

I'm pretty sure that's not how the Alicorns work...
I think he may have actually been talking about the Society. We know Grace is related to Twilight, and I believe it was mentioned that a few others were also related to her as well...but it's just as likely that I'm an idiot and it never says that anywhere...


My other guess is the Twilight Society because I'm pretty sure many of them were related to Twilight I'm some way...

Thing is Grace is DISTANTLY related to Twilight. BJ's a direct descendant (I think she's like a greatx8 (How many names were on BJ's gun excluding her adopted grandmother and Go fish?) grandaughter.) That's why the door opened for her, but Grace is related in the same way from what I remember Applesnack was related to AJ. (Weren't they like fifth cousins or something? Or did I make the Apple is in the name so it's part of that apple family assumption?) In other words not in any real way. So Grace and the rest of the society are probably as viable as anyother random wastlander.

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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Silver136 on Thu Dec 19, 2013 8:27 am

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Luminous Lead wrote:And at least a quarter of them are DIRECTLY related to Twilight Sparkle.

Wat.

I'm pretty sure that's not how the Alicorns work...
I think he may have actually been talking about the Society. We know Grace is related to Twilight, and I believe it was mentioned that a few others were also related to her as well...but it's just as likely that I'm an idiot and it never says that anywhere...


My other guess is the Twilight Society because I'm pretty sure many of them were related to Twilight I'm some way...

Thing is Grace is DISTANTLY related to Twilight. BJ's a direct descendant (I think she's like a greatx8 (How many names were on BJ's gun excluding her adopted grandmother and Go fish?) grandaughter.) That's why the door opened for her, but Grace is related in the same way from what I remember Applesnack was related to AJ. (Weren't they like fifth cousins or something? Or did I make the Apple is in the name so it's part of that apple family assumption?) In other words not in any real way. So Grace and the rest of the society are probably as viable as anyother random wastlander.
Well...you did make the apple assumption, yes. Applesnack and AJ weren't related. Also, the only other group I could think of would be the Twilight Society, or maybe even the Stable 99 survivors. Maybe one of BJ's ancestors got around some, or maybe one had a colt...
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Luminous Lead on Thu Dec 19, 2013 8:33 am

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Luminous Lead wrote:And at least a quarter of them are DIRECTLY related to Twilight Sparkle.

Wat.

I'm pretty sure that's not how the Alicorns work...

As far as I remember, Twilight, Trixie and the Gestalt twins were all smooshed together to form the base template for all the alicorns. When one joins unity, one is completely dissolved into the flesh mass and formed anew from the pre-existing Unity flesh. Taint was used in Project Chimera to make clones (I think), so it might have similar cloning effects in Twilight's goddess project. Given that Twilight is one of the "mothers" of Unity, it stands to reason that the alicorns would be more closely related to Twilight's kid than random wastelanders. Another thing to consider is that Alicorns are big (isn't Blackjack also on the large side?), so their wombs would probably be more accommodating to receiving a surrogate.

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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Guest on Thu Dec 19, 2013 8:39 am

Silver136 wrote:
Well...you did make the apple assumption, yes. Applesnack and AJ weren't related. Also, the only other group I could think of would be the Twilight Society, or maybe even the Stable 99 survivors. Maybe one of BJ's ancestors got around some, or maybe one had a colt...

Well, they probably are. But in a tiny insignificant way that doesn't matter you know how like Grace and BJ are related. They have one common ancestor two hundred years back.

You mean the ancestors that were sealed in stable 99? because if not you're still dealing with that insignificantly related problem.

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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Silver136 on Thu Dec 19, 2013 8:41 am

Luminous Lead wrote:
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Luminous Lead wrote:And at least a quarter of them are DIRECTLY related to Twilight Sparkle.

Wat.

I'm pretty sure that's not how the Alicorns work...

As far as I remember, Twilight, Trixie and the Gestalt twins were all smooshed together to form the base template for all the alicorns.  When one joins unity, one is completely dissolved into the flesh mass and formed anew from the pre-existing Unity flesh.  Taint was used in Project Chimera to make clones (I think), so it might have similar cloning effects in Twilight's goddess project.  Given that Twilight is one of the "mothers" of Unity, it stands to reason that the alicorns would be more closely related to Twilight's kid than random wastelanders.  Another thing to consider is that Alicorns are big (isn't Blackjack also on the large side?), so their wombs would probably be more accommodating to receiving a surrogate.
Well I would say yeah, but wasn't IMP a form of taint that had been modified? I would think it would be bad for a fetus to be raised in a radiation and taint eating alicorn. Not to mention finding one that would say, "Sure, implant me with your child!"

And I would think that the combo of so many ponies would dilute any major relation.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Silver136 on Thu Dec 19, 2013 8:49 am

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Well...you did make the apple assumption, yes. Applesnack and AJ weren't related. Also, the only other group I could think of would be the Twilight Society, or maybe even the Stable 99 survivors. Maybe one of BJ's ancestors got around some, or maybe one had a colt...

Well, they probably are. But in a tiny insignificant way that doesn't matter you know how like Grace and BJ are related. They have one common ancestor two hundred years back.

You mean the ancestors that were sealed in stable 99? because if not you're still dealing with that insignificantly related problem.
Yes, I was talking about the other security heads. They would have had children, chances are at least one had anxolt. And if a child of one of BJ's ancestors is insignificantly related, then Blackjack should be even more insignificantly related. After all, her family has been having kids with non-Sparkle males.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Scienza on Thu Dec 19, 2013 8:53 am

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Well...you did make the apple assumption, yes. Applesnack and AJ weren't related.=
Although... I think in PH canon, he actually is one of her cousins.

Which puts their entire relationship into a very, very uncomfortable light.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Adalbertus on Thu Dec 19, 2013 8:56 am

As far as the Twilight Society goes... I don't think they actually are related to Twi, since then they would be able to use some of the Twilight-coded stuff. I think they are just related to high officials in the MAS who were at the hub at the time the bombs fell.

And, like I already said, taking the other route would work too - Big Mac was the father, there's an entire stable full of Apple family-related ponies.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Guest on Thu Dec 19, 2013 8:59 am

Luminous Lead wrote:
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Luminous Lead wrote:And at least a quarter of them are DIRECTLY related to Twilight Sparkle.

Wat.

I'm pretty sure that's not how the Alicorns work...

As far as I remember, Twilight, Trixie and the Gestalt twins were all smooshed together to form the base template for all the alicorns.  When one joins unity, one is completely dissolved into the flesh mass and formed anew from the pre-existing Unity flesh.  Taint was used in Project Chimera to make clones (I think), so it might have similar cloning effects in Twilight's goddess project.  Given that Twilight is one of the "mothers" of Unity, it stands to reason that the alicorns would be more closely related to Twilight's kid than random wastelanders.  Another thing to consider is that Alicorns are big (isn't Blackjack also on the large side?), so their wombs would probably be more accommodating to receiving a surrogate.

Well one of the primary problems of suggesting the Alicorns is that they want Alicorn babies. I'm somehow doubting earth pony P-21 and unicorn BJ are gonna produce one of those. Even if it were possible why would they want their baby? They could adopt non alicorn children unless one of them is incredibly desperate to be pregnant.

The other is let's say they are 100% genetically Twilight. Good for them. Twilight is relative from two hundred years back I'm somehow doubting she'd be viable. We're looking for someone closely related to BJ not Twilight.

@Silver I have no idea how the doors work if that's what you're referring to. I think it somehow just tells if you're a direct descendent or something. I just don't know. I'm sure you got a relative from two hundred years back that has a bunch of grandkids (including you) that aren't related to you in any real way.

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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Silver136 on Thu Dec 19, 2013 9:04 am

@Last: What I'm trying to say is that in stable 99, Blackjacks family has been breeding with the males for 200 years. This should result in at least one colt, who would also carry a relation to Twilight into children he has. I was also trying to point out that by breeding outside of the Sparkle family, BJ must be related, but just not a pure blood Twilight descendant.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Guest on Thu Dec 19, 2013 9:13 am

Silver136 wrote:@Last: What I'm trying to say is that in stable 99, Blackjacks family has been breeding with the males for 200 years. This should result in at least one colt, who would also carry a relation to Twilight into children he has. I was also trying to point out that by breeding outside of the Sparkle family, BJ must be related, but just not a pure blood Twilight descendant.


I'm sorry, Silver but I'm just not getting what you're saying. Mind explaining to me why you brought up a colt? I haven't slept yet So I'm not my sharpest.

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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Adalbertus on Thu Dec 19, 2013 9:16 am

Last wrote:I'm sorry, Silver but I'm just not getting what you're saying. Mind explaining to me why you brought up a colt? I haven't slept yet So I'm not my sharpest.

He said that there might have been a colt somewhere in BJ's lineage, and that colt would then be used to reproduce and spread the holy genes of Twilight Sparkle all over stable 99.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Silver136 on Thu Dec 19, 2013 9:21 am

Adalbertus wrote:
Last wrote:I'm sorry, Silver but I'm just not getting what you're saying. Mind explaining to me why you brought up a colt? I haven't slept yet So I'm not my sharpest.

He said that there might have been a colt somewhere in BJ's lineage, and that colt would then be used to reproduce and spread the holy genes of Twilight Sparkle all over stable 99.
Exactly. Thanks Adalbertus.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Guest on Thu Dec 19, 2013 9:23 am

Adalbertus wrote:
Last wrote:I'm sorry, Silver but I'm just not getting what you're saying. Mind explaining to me why you brought up a colt? I haven't slept yet So I'm not my sharpest.

He said that there might have been a colt somewhere in BJ's lineage, and that colt would then be used to reproduce and spread the holy genes of Twilight Sparkle all over stable 99.

Ohhh ok. Umm maybe? I mean he'd have to be chosen to actually breed (As in the one time the mares are actually allowed to have a foal.) With quite a few mares. Which I doubt. Because well that hurts genetic diversity. Suddenly all the foals are related. And he'd have to be born after the queue was put in. Before that I think the stable ran just like equestria relationship (and sex.) wise. Remember the queue wasn't always there.

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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Silver136 on Thu Dec 19, 2013 9:25 am

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Last wrote:I'm sorry, Silver but I'm just not getting what you're saying. Mind explaining to me why you brought up a colt? I haven't slept yet So I'm not my sharpest.

He said that there might have been a colt somewhere in BJ's lineage, and that colt would then be used to reproduce and spread the holy genes of Twilight Sparkle all over stable 99.

Ohhh ok. Umm maybe? I mean he'd have to be chosen to actually breed (As the one time the mares are actually allowed to have a foal.) With quite a few mares. Which I doubt. Because well that hurts genetic diversity. Suddenly all the foals are related. And he'd have to be born after the queue was put in. Before that I think the stable ran just like equestria relationship (and sex.) wise. Remember the queue wasn't always there.
Actually I had a huge reply written that said just that and explained what I was talking about. But, then Adalbertus typed up what I meant in WAY fewer words so...
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by O. Hinds on Thu Dec 19, 2013 9:27 am

WavemasterRyx wrote:Alright well... I'm not even close to done...  Made okay progress last night, and then pretty much none today.

I reached that scene though, and I'm crying too much to continue, even if it wasn't past when I should be asleep.  I think I'll just post what I have so far though, so you guys don't have to wait forever until the whole thing is done.

*hugs Somber and Hinds each a little*

Chapter 62b Commentary part 1:


"Yeah, I wasn't expecting that either," - Neither was I.  Having the interior of the tower completely open isn't the most unorthodox choice for a flying species, but having it be a giant windtunnel seems like it should violate some kind of safety regulation.  If any pony would ignore that for the sake of cool though, it's Rainbow Dash heh.  It's too bad she didn't have a map of the tower to give Blackjack though, knowing the door would try to kill her would have been helpful.

It's a good thing Dash had the tower made to be compatable with non-pegasi too.  I was worried she come up to the elevator control and her hoof would go right through it.  Not that the elevator ride went particularly well for her, I mean geeze...  The fact that the beams could hurt Blackjack so badly definitely speaks to how dangerous they are, as well as their melting through the elevator platform.  Poor Boo, getting the molten metal on her must really hurt...

I'm really worried about Blackjack having no ammo.  Conventional weapons have always played a major role in her arsenal, and without them, she's left with continually dwindling means with which to deal with enemies.

"Fortunately, I had a skeleton key." - Eternally sharp swords are so nice for that, makes me miss the old D&D vorpal blades that actually worked that way.  I can imagine P-21 being flustered if she over-used it though, heh.

Interchangeable legs would be very useful to have, though it makes it worse when you can, but you get caught in a situation where you're unable to switch effectively.

"I'm glad you're here.  I really miss my friends." - It's not a very long scene, with Blackjack thinking about her friends, nuzzling Boo and sneezing at the dust, but I think it's an /absolutely/ adorable scene.

I'd forgotten who Mephitis was... I think Blackjack covered my response pretty well in his regard.

Boo is still adorable, and of course she knows which way to go.  For cake.  I'm not afraid to admit that that made me smile quite a lot.  She's also been getting really good at opening the packages.

"You don't have a jamming device in all that?" - Ah, I wonder if she got one with her upgrades though?  Could certainly come in handy some times.

"It'd been a joke.  I should have taken it like a joke.  Instead, I turned and slammed him into the wall" - Poor Blackjack...  Just on its own, her reaction makes for a fairly sad scene.  When you take it as the setup for what happens later though it really stings.

"No chance at all.  That's why he's connecting them to the stable's reactor." - Well that's certainly a surprise too, and another reason having a map would have been really helpful for forming her plan.

"It was something a smarter pony than me could have figured out." - Poor Blackjack...  I think her not being a very smart pony does add to the impact of story elements when she finally figures them out though.

It's kinda nice to have her looking through the Stable and comparing it to 99, thinking over how it works.  I'm not sure if "nostalgic" is really the right term, but it's certainly nice.

"A moment later, with a plate of snack cakes balanced on her rump and one in her mouth, Boo followed after us.  She'd somehow been able to weaponize cute." - Well she certainly is cute enough for it.  As for those who say I've influenced her growth in this direction, I'd say it's hardly the case...  She's always been this cute on her own, I've just tried to do what little I could to pay tribute to it...

Every time a pony actually cooperates with Blackjack it still surprises me, and it's certainly refreshing for something to go okay.  Overmare Farsight seems like a nice pony, I really hope they were able to get out of the blast zone in time.  Even though the situation is so dire, and their conversation certainly wasn't cheerful, it did have a nice, positive feeling to it.

It's probably a /very/ good thing Blackjack contacted Crumpets about the refugees instead of Stronghooves...  Now would not have been a good time at all for a little friendly inquiry as to how Lacunae was doing...

"Blackjack, you heard me say that Raptors are rare, didn't you?" "She needs incentives in her life." - I know you've always said you could never write a comedy, Somber, but I do so love the bits of humor that come with Project Horizons.  It makes it just that much easier to love the characters, I think that is a part of why I've always liked Rampage especially.

I really do feel sorry for the three cyberponies Chicanery takes out (for all of his... former... soldiers really).  They lost so much just because they thought they were protecting their home.  I wonder what would have happened if they'd lived...  Could they all have been helped, or even any of them?

The little exchange between Blackjack and Twister was quite sad, especially because Twister's feelings seem so genuine.

Yeah, I think "killing field" is probably the only way to describe that interior of the tower...  A confined area with barely any cover, those damnable turrets, and every advantage of height against you...  Trying to picture it actually makes my heart sink a little.

"Bullshit.  You know exactly what you need to do.  Preciseely what you have to do." - Compared to how Echo used to treat Blackjack, this is such an incredibly forward approach.  I guess that shows how close they've gotten after all this time, no more playing games.

And finally, the surgery...  I won't lie, this scene hurt a lot, enough that it was still haunting me for nearly the entire day after reading.  The trauma of the surgery, and Blackjack giving up most of what little she had left that made her a pony was painful, even more so for having Glory finally return to normal.  For as painful as it is though, the surgery and Blackjack's immediate breakdown afterwards were very well written, and I think very properly impactful.  Having Boo finally speak and using it to bring Blackjack out of her rage hit me almost as hard as the surgery scene itself.  Incredibly emotional.
"safety regulation"
Safety regulations? Since when did wartime Equestrian architecture care about silly things like those? :D

"I really do feel sorry for the three cyberponies Chicanery takes out (for all of his... former... soldiers really). They lost so much just because they thought they were protecting their home. I wonder what would have happened if they'd lived... Could they all have been helped, or even any of them?"
Well, I don't actually know if all of them are dead. The POWs from below were evacuated with the civilians, after all, and I don't know what the range of whatever transmission Snapped Strings used was. We'll see what's revealed.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Derpmind on Thu Dec 19, 2013 12:10 pm

Adalbertus wrote:
SilentCarto wrote:The system was intended to accept a genetic sample and produce a clone of that person -- which is exactly what they did with Scotch. Blanks happen when you cycle the mechanisms while the key Project Chimera parts are locked out by Luna's order. It's not an intended mode of operation.
As an engineer I could tell you that if machine does something, it was designed to do it. I don't think blanks were a complete surprise to ponies working there once project Chimera was locked. also, there HAS to be a hard-coded template so that whatever comes out of the tree is a pony and not a pile of goo.
Then again, I'm applying real world logic to it, so you might be right and blanks could be a completely unpredictable side effect.

I don't think they actually used blanks for organ transplants at all. They made taint-created clones of ponies for organs, usually one created with the blood of the patient. And remember that the clones behaved exactly like the blanks. Blanks are somewhere around being the basic genetic template for ponies, so that a blood sample 'fills in the blanks' with the specific genetic stuff that makes that pony unique. No wishy-washy 'because magic' needed. And remember, we don't really know what's made Boo different, so that makes her even less likely to be compatible with whatever procedures allow magical ponies to do magical surrogacy.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Vergil on Thu Dec 19, 2013 12:18 pm

Welp, I'm finally rereading all of ph from the beginning. Thanks, vacation/holidays/unemployment!
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by RoboRed on Thu Dec 19, 2013 12:28 pm

Have you started reading that once story I recommended to you yet? Of Skies Long Forgotten?


And to keep this on topic...

I don't think the starmetal sword is gone for good. She seems to be heading downwards anyways, and it's likely that she'll run into it again. I predict either embedded in some sort of debris or, in a complete twist, in Dawn's possession.

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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by WavemasterRyx on Thu Dec 19, 2013 3:18 pm

O. Hinds wrote:"safety regulation"
Safety regulations?  Since when did wartime Equestrian architecture care about silly things like those?  :D

"I really do feel sorry for the three cyberponies Chicanery takes out (for all of his... former... soldiers really).  They lost so much just because they thought they were protecting their home.  I wonder what would have happened if they'd lived...  Could they all have been helped, or even any of them?"
Well, I don't actually know if all of them are dead.  The POWs from below were evacuated with the civilians, after all, and I don't know what the range of whatever transmission Snapped Strings used was.  We'll see what's revealed.
Heh, very true, if they did there wouldn't be all those incredibly hazardous action-scene catwalks in all the factory buildings either.

Also true. They did have about an hour to get a head start, and we don't know what the range on the transmission was. I would assume he would have made sure it could reach a considerable distance, but it is certainly possible the POWs might have escaped it, especially if their coms were being jammed at the time. Whether or not it's a good thing if they did survive, we'll have to wait and see that as well...

I just realized I posted that part of the commentary without spell-checking it... Oops.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Overlong Analysis Cobalt on Thu Dec 19, 2013 6:49 pm

@Robored (Where'd the sword go?)
I can see it now: Blackjack goes down into the core to fight the big baddy... only to see the starmetal sword already sticking out of it. "Oh, well, right then. I guess we can go home." And they did. The end!
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Caoimhe on Thu Dec 19, 2013 6:53 pm

Or maybe it lands somewhere and starts a corrupting chain reaction and shit starts getting fucked by the time she approaches it.

That's also very video gamey.

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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by SilentCarto on Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:40 pm

CamoBadger wrote:2) The epilogue also points out explicitly that Gardens only removed Taint and Radiation from the land and water, but didn't remove it from the ponies afflicted by it already, leaving them to seek further treatment to try getting it cured.
I'm fairly sure it would remove active taint from ponies, too -- it was, after all, based on the same taint-removal spell Lifebloom used on Littlepip. The trouble is that the damage taint causes is ongoing, so Gardens won't make affected ponies any better -- it just won't get any worse.

Adalbertus wrote:actually that's SPP, not Gardens of Equestria.
Got me there!

Luminous Lead wrote:If it makes as much sense to you as it does to me, then these hints should be all you need.
Hint #1:
There are dozens, if not hundreds of them,
Hint #2:
Many of them want children,
Hint #3:
And at least a quarter of them are DIRECTLY related to Twilight Sparkle.
If you're talking about alicorns, they may or may not be genetically compatible with Twilight. They might just be physically modified without tweaking their genes.

Silver136 wrote:My other guess is the Twilight Society because I'm pretty sure many of them were related to Twilight I'm some way...
If they were, they wouldn't have needed BJ to be Twi's so badly.

Last wrote:Thing is Grace is DISTANTLY related to Twilight. BJ's a direct descendant (I think she's like a greatx8 (How many names were on BJ's gun excluding her adopted grandmother and Go fish?) grandaughter.)
BJ is Twilight's 9-times-great granddaughter.

Adalbertus wrote:And, like I already said, taking the other route would work too - Big Mac was the father, there's an entire stable full of Apple family-related ponies.
True enough! Though a ninth cousin might be rather distant for these purposes. A closer relative -- someone from Stable 99 -- would be far better.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Adalbertus on Fri Dec 20, 2013 4:29 am

Or, and this is a really unlikely possibility, but it's not like we weren't surprised before, BJ will actually do it all by herself. I mean, basically the main problem is her armor, that doesn't really stretch, but it's not like we couldn't have it removed in a month or two, before stretching is needed. In less then a week Littlepip enters the SPP (unless something isn't changed, which I doubt) and I suspect Hoofington would be dealt with earlier. After that it's either a huge slightly radioactive lake, because BJ found a big red button, or a scavenger's heaven. in either way, if BJ and her foal survives, she could go to Tenpony Tower or find some other safe place (Junction R-7?), take off the parts of her armor plates and just let the nature do it's thing.
Sure, it'd be boring and BJ hates to be bored, but...well... baby.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by SilentCarto on Fri Dec 20, 2013 9:01 am

Overlong Analysis Cobalt wrote:-Best part was the "alicornication," which I encapsulate in quotes because she's clearly not an actual alicorn, y'all. Frankly, I'm actually kind of surprised the procedure worked at all, would have had to be very cobbled-together since I'm pretty sure the biology of an alicorn is pretty different from that of a unicorn...
Well, FoE had Gizmo, an earth pony with cyber-wings, thanks to Stable 101 tech. So that's apparently not a particularly difficult obstacle to overcome.

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Post by SilentCarto on Fri Dec 20, 2013 9:03 am

Adalbertus wrote:Or, and this is a really unlikely possibility, but it's not like we weren't surprised before, BJ will actually do it all by herself. I mean, basically the main problem is her armor, that doesn't really stretch, but it's not like we couldn't have it removed in a month or two, before stretching is needed. In less then a week Littlepip enters the SPP (unless something isn't changed, which I doubt) and I suspect Hoofington would be dealt with earlier. After that it's either a huge slightly radioactive lake, because BJ found a big red button, or a scavenger's heaven. in either way, if BJ and her foal survives, she could go to Tenpony Tower or find some other safe place (Junction R-7?), take off the parts of her armor plates and just let the nature do it's thing.
Sure, it'd be boring and BJ hates to be bored, but...well... baby.
Pretty sure cybernetics don't work like that. The whole problem is that the armor is part of her structure, not just bolted on. I still think she's going to get a fresh, cloned body at the end, and they can move the baby into that.
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Post by Adalbertus on Fri Dec 20, 2013 9:10 am

Well, your guess is as good as mine as to the structural integrity of those new cybernetics... maybe parts of that can be removed, maybe all those changes can be undone and she could have what's left of her body with as little implants as possible just to keep her alive and mobile... or it might be too complicated to do in her state, who knows...
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Post by Overlong Analysis Cobalt on Fri Dec 20, 2013 10:01 am

@SilentCarto
What I meant about the cobbled-together bit was that, since the procedure had been designed to work on Princess Luna and/or Celestia, it would probably have taken into account size, nerve endings, and other biological stuff that BJ lacks. An earth pony getting cyberwings that were designed for an earth pony is easier than a unicorn getting cyber wings designed for an alicorn, I'd think. That said, well, we know it WAS a cobbled-together procedure, anyway - just commenting that it must have been quite the cobbled-together procedure, indeed. Also, thanks for cluing me into the paper.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Silver136 on Fri Dec 20, 2013 10:36 am

Overlong Analysis Cobalt wrote:@SilentCarto
What I meant about the cobbled-together bit was that, since the procedure had been designed to work on Princess Luna and/or Celestia, it would probably have taken into account size, nerve endings, and other biological stuff that BJ lacks. An earth pony getting cyberwings that were designed for an earth pony is easier than a unicorn getting cyber wings designed for an alicorn, I'd think. That said, well, we know it WAS a cobbled-together procedure, anyway - just commenting that it must have been quite the cobbled-together procedure, indeed. Also, thanks for cluing me into the paper.
I believe the alicorn cybernetics were designed to be used on the alicorns Twilight would eventually make, however your point still stands.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Overlong Analysis Cobalt on Fri Dec 20, 2013 11:13 am

@Silver
Derp, you're right, for the alicorns from Twilight.
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