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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Guest on Tue Dec 17, 2013 9:50 pm

Icy Shake wrote:Gloryjack-21 poly coupling. Or something else.

No? My memory is very selective. I remember very specific things. Like in conversations I'll remember things for a very long time but when it comes to other things I can forget them in five minutes. A while ago somber said. "In a year even if Glory is still RD she will not being doing a repeat perfomance." This is in reference to Glory sleeping with prince asshole. And when it comes to "repeat performances" he's talking about her sleeping with stallions. And when it comes to the year thing I'm pretty sure he's referencing equine estrus cycle (Which if I'm remmbering correctly is annual.) so even with the added hormone of estrus in a straight mare's body she wasn't going to be sleeping with anymore stallions.

So if you were talking about a love triangle thing where there all together. No.

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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Icy Shake on Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:00 pm

Last wrote:
Icy Shake wrote:Gloryjack-21 poly coupling. Or something else.

So if you were talking about a love triangle thing where there all together. No.
What I said didn't need to involve Glory ever having sex with P-21. Or, for that Nor, as a more general matter than this conversation, being as it is about the sexual aspect of Glory and Blackjack's relationship, Blackjack having sex with him., but within the context of the larger statement I can see how it could be read as implicit.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by WavemasterRyx on Wed Dec 18, 2013 12:01 am

O. Hinds wrote:
WavemasterRyx wrote:In other news, I'm trying my best to work on my commentary for the chapter when I can, it's just going very slowly... Hopefully I'll have it finished in another day or two, I'm sorry for the delay, Somber.
I can't actually speak for him, but I doubt that he minds.  Post it when you can.
Well thank you, Hinds, I'm sure he won't mind too much either, still, I know the comments are important, so I felt an apology was warranted since it's taking so long.

I'll finally be able to get back to work on it later tonight, but in the meantime, at least I have this to post.

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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by SilentCarto on Wed Dec 18, 2013 12:10 am

Adalbertus wrote:And again, my vote is for Boo, since she's probably designed to ensure maximum compatibility with other ponies, as an universal organ donor.
That's... not entirely accurate. The donor clones are supposed to be just that -- clones. Blanks something entirely different -- a result of cycling the system without a DNA sample. That's not to say Blanks aren't genetically neutral enough for this to work, but they're not designed for that, so far as we know.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by swicked on Wed Dec 18, 2013 12:38 am

SilentCarto wrote:
Adalbertus wrote:And again, my vote is for Boo, since she's probably designed to ensure maximum compatibility with other ponies, as an universal organ donor.
That's... not entirely accurate. The donor clones are supposed to be just that -- clones. Blanks something entirely different -- a result of cycling the system without a DNA sample. That's not to say Blanks aren't genetically neutral enough for this to work, but they're not designed for that, so far as we know.
They're not really designed to do anything. They are presented as what the system creates minus any genetic markers to specify which pony they are meant to replicate.
I would figure (with my utter lack of any form of medical education) nothing to specify, nothing that can be rejected.

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Post by O. Hinds on Wed Dec 18, 2013 1:14 am

WavemasterRyx wrote:
O. Hinds wrote:
WavemasterRyx wrote:In other news, I'm trying my best to work on my commentary for the chapter when I can, it's just going very slowly... Hopefully I'll have it finished in another day or two, I'm sorry for the delay, Somber.
I can't actually speak for him, but I doubt that he minds.  Post it when you can.
Well thank you, Hinds, I'm sure he won't mind too much either, still, I know the comments are important, so I felt an apology was warranted since it's taking so long.

I'll finally be able to get back to work on it later tonight, but in the meantime, at least I have this to post.

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I saw it in the art thread first, but this gives me an opportunity to upvote it twice. :)
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Vergil on Wed Dec 18, 2013 2:29 am

aaaaaaaand there's the diabeetus.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Adalbertus on Wed Dec 18, 2013 3:29 am

Last wrote:I think this is likely. All the predictions came true as far as I can tell. BJ was reborn, priest died, Glory was mutated, Lacunea is gone. So scotch and P-21 are the only two remaining. And maybe Majina?
I actually forgot about the dream (and to be honest I don't remember where in the progress of the story it was <_<), so it just might be the option, although at her current age I don't think it'd be safe for Scotch to carry a baby even if she's genetically closest to it.

Icy Shake wrote:I think it's symmetrical, and in either case one is asking the other to make a concession, which may or may not be worth making.
yeah, but lets face it, most of us would side with Glory, if a situation like this happened in out society.

Icy Shake wrote:Or maybe we'll end up with a full-on Gloryjack-21 poly coupling.
That would be nice since we know both P-21 and Glory have feelings for BJ... but we'd have to toss in one more stallion to the mix, so P-21 could be completely happy =P

And Scotch Tape would have Glory as a step-mother... brilliant :D

Icy Shake wrote:Also, "monogamistic" is a word, but kind of archaic; the more common one for that situation is "monogamous."
Thanks :)

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SilentCarto wrote:
Adalbertus wrote:And again, my vote is for Boo, since she's probably designed to ensure maximum compatibility with other ponies, as an universal organ donor.
That's... not entirely accurate. The donor clones are supposed to be just that -- clones. Blanks something entirely different -- a result of cycling the system without a DNA sample. That's not to say Blanks aren't genetically neutral enough for this to work, but they're not designed for that, so far as we know.
They're not really designed to do anything. They are presented as what the system creates minus any genetic markers to specify which pony they are meant to replicate.
I would figure (with my utter lack of any form of medical education) nothing to specify, nothing that can be rejected.
Someone designed the system, so someone had to design the "clean" state of production and since blanks were mass-produced as organ donors (or at least that's how I understand it) their organs, and thus entire bodies, were at least neutral in regards to genetic markers and whatever other criteria might had to be considered. Otherwise it would be a huge waste of energy and resources. And as far as I know (and I could be wrong, my last biology class was 10 years ago) but reproductive system is one of the most autonomous because by default it deals with a foreign body living and growing inside of it. So if we could transplant Boo's liver or heart into someone, we could easily transplant a fetus into her.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Caoimhe on Wed Dec 18, 2013 2:48 pm

Lets discuss all the potential problems Blackjack's kid would have:

- Severe radiation poisoning
- Fetal alcohol syndrome
- Having Blackjack for a mom
- etc
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Shujaa on Wed Dec 18, 2013 2:51 pm

Oh I know ! Taint !!
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Adalbertus on Wed Dec 18, 2013 3:43 pm

Well... we do know that Gardens of Equestria will be activated at some point in the future. this should take care of the radiation and taint at least.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Vergil on Wed Dec 18, 2013 5:03 pm

In fairness, having BJ for a mom is both a positive and a negative.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Derpmind on Wed Dec 18, 2013 6:02 pm

Still a good chance that BJ dies around the end of the story, so Glory might end up being the mother.

Shujaa wrote:Oh I know ! Taint !!

I don't think BJ has been exposed to Taint in... I don't really remember, but quite a while I'd guess.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Adalbertus on Wed Dec 18, 2013 6:09 pm

I'd guess some time around playing with Discord maybe?
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Technowolf on Wed Dec 18, 2013 6:10 pm

I have a question:  if Echo was in control of the upgrade process the whole time, why did he feel it necessary to rip off Blackjack's face and replace it with a slab of metal?  I mean, he does know how Blackjack feels about the whole "becoming more machine than mare" thing, right?
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Adalbertus on Wed Dec 18, 2013 6:15 pm

There probably were certain elements of the design he could not change. I mean, just adding wings would be enough, there was no need to put her into a huge metal can with holes on both sides, so I guess his control over the process was limited or he simply couldn't change too much to keep the whole thing working. he's not a cyberpony engineer trained in the field, to design in-depth changes into those systems on the fly.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by FeatherDust on Wed Dec 18, 2013 8:10 pm

I haven't quite finished the new chapter yet, but I ran across an editing issue. Somebody might've pointed it out already but it's not fixed in the main doc, so...
Spoiler:

I flew back up to the control room and found a terminal. I’d only seen this once, but I closed my eyes a moment, trying to remember everything she’d done.

As Blackjack previously noted, she can no longer do this as she has no eyelids.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by O. Hinds on Wed Dec 18, 2013 8:43 pm

FeatherDust wrote:I haven't quite finished the new chapter yet, but I ran across an editing issue.  Somebody might've pointed it out already but it's not fixed in the main doc, so...
Spoiler:

I flew back up to the control room and found a terminal.  I’d only seen this once, but I closed my eyes a moment, trying to remember everything she’d done.

As Blackjack previously noted, she can no longer do this as she has no eyelids.
Ah, thank you.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by swicked on Wed Dec 18, 2013 8:49 pm

Adalbertus wrote:There probably were certain elements of the design he could not change. I mean, just adding wings would be enough, there was no need to put her into a huge metal can with holes on both sides, so I guess his control over the process was limited or he simply couldn't change too much to keep the whole thing working. he's not a cyberpony engineer trained in the field, to design in-depth changes into those systems on the fly.
I remember complaining a lot in the editor chat about how much of a massive jerk he was.
After all, he didn't even warn BJ this was going to happen. He particularly didn't even try to show up afterward to apologize or explain or anything.

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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Moodyman90 on Wed Dec 18, 2013 9:22 pm

Could be he only had limited control of the actual process other than activate it and guide it to the Eclipse program. Unable to alter the process. And he probably used up whatever bit of energy he had and couldn't reappear afterwards.

But what do I know, just thinking out loud.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Scienza on Wed Dec 18, 2013 10:19 pm

Caoimhe wrote:Lets discuss all the potential problems Blackjack's kid would have:

- Severe radiation poisoning
- Fetal alcohol syndrome
- Having Blackjack for a mom
- etc
Nutritional issues during pregnancy. It's always a difficult balance to provide a fetus with the proper nutrients to develop (for example, the bones of pregnant women can get metabolized in order to provide calcium for the fetus). Since all Blackjack seems to eat is scrap metal, gems, cram (which ponies aren't really supposed to eat), old cereal, and whiskey, that foal's gonna get some really weird nutrition. And that's before the cravings start to happen and cause Blackjack to eat Scotch Tape.

Also, enervation can make foals stillborn. That's pretty relevant since she did just get exposed to an enervation field the likes of which Hoofington has never seen.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by SilentCarto on Wed Dec 18, 2013 10:36 pm

Adalbertus wrote:I actually forgot about the dream (and to be honest I don't remember where in the progress of the story it was <_<), so it just might be the option, although at her current age I don't think it'd be safe for Scotch to carry a baby even if she's genetically closest to it.
Chapter 33: Black.

Adalbertus wrote:Someone designed the system, so someone had to design the "clean" state of production and since blanks were mass-produced as organ donors (or at least that's how I understand it)
The system was intended to accept a genetic sample and produce a clone of that person -- which is exactly what they did with Scotch. Blanks happen when you cycle the mechanisms while the key Project Chimera parts are locked out by Luna's order. It's not an intended mode of operation.

Adalbertus wrote:Well... we do know that Gardens of Equestria will be activated at some point in the future. this should take care of the radiation and taint at least.
Near future. No more than 6 days, since we had film from the Battle of Friendship City.

Derpmind wrote:I don't think BJ has been exposed to Taint in... I don't really remember, but quite a while I'd guess.
Not since she fired Folly on the HMS Celestia, though her cyberlegs tiptoed through some puddles in Hippocratic, so she might have picked up some minute incidental exposure.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by CamoBadger on Thu Dec 19, 2013 12:02 am

Adalbertus wrote:Well... we do know that Gardens of Equestria will be activated at some point in the future. this should take care of the radiation and taint at least.
There's only 2 problems with this.
1) The original fic never actually had the Gardens go off. It was mentioned in the epilogue, but when Pip goes into the SPP, they still hadn't found all of the element bearers yet if I remember correctly, so there's no way to know how long after that they actually activated it.
2) The epilogue also points out explicitly that Gardens only removed Taint and Radiation from the land and water, but didn't remove it from the ponies afflicted by it already, leaving them to seek further treatment to try getting it cured.

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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Luminous Lead on Thu Dec 19, 2013 1:11 am

So, after a couple of pages of debate for who can find the squickiest surrogate for Blackjack's kid (barely adolescent mare, mentally deficient mare, genetically incompatible mare, or suicidal mare). I'm surprised to notice that no one's mentioned the "most likely" candidates.

If it makes as much sense to you as it does to me, then these hints should be all you need.
Hint #1:
There are dozens, if not hundreds of them,
Hint #2:
Many of them want children,
Hint #3:
And at least a quarter of them are DIRECTLY related to Twilight Sparkle.

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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Adalbertus on Thu Dec 19, 2013 3:33 am

SilentCarto wrote:The system was intended to accept a genetic sample and produce a clone of that person -- which is exactly what they did with Scotch. Blanks happen when you cycle the mechanisms while the key Project Chimera parts are locked out by Luna's order. It's not an intended mode of operation.
As an engineer I could tell you that if machine does something, it was designed to do it. I don't think blanks were a complete surprise to ponies working there once project Chimera was locked. also, there HAS to be a hard-coded template so that whatever comes out of the tree is a pony and not a pile of goo.
Then again, I'm applying real world logic to it, so you might be right and blanks could be a completely unpredictable side effect.
SilentCarto wrote:Near future. No more than 6 days, since we had film from the Battle of Friendship City.
actually that's SPP, not Gardens of Equestria.
CamoBadger wrote:1) The original fic never actually had the Gardens go off. It was mentioned in the epilogue, but when Pip goes into the SPP, they still hadn't found all of the element bearers yet if I remember correctly, so there's no way to know how long after that they actually activated it.
Yes, it could be weeks or years later, I know, but almost all bearers are gathered, except for magic and generosity. I'm pretty sure that between original FoE and PH we could find two ponies matching those virtues.
SilentCarto wrote:2) The epilogue also points out explicitly that Gardens only removed Taint and Radiation from the land and water, but didn't remove it from the ponies afflicted by it already, leaving them to seek further treatment to try getting it cured.
Yeah, but unless BJ (or the surrogate mother) doesn't get exposed until the Gardens are activated and the gardens are activated before the foal is born, Equestria would be clean of all taint... or most of it.

Luminous Lead wrote:And at least a quarter of them are DIRECTLY related to Twilight Sparkle.
ok, I have no idea <_<
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Overlong Analysis Cobalt on Thu Dec 19, 2013 4:09 am

@Luminous Lead
Hmm... That's definitely a thought.

@Shujaa
You are new here, I think! Welcome!

@Me
I'm slow! Well, okay, not really - I had finals to do. So, once again, I end up reading a chapter of PH on the plane. Finished it now, overall thoughts:
Thoughts:

Overall, I liked it!
-Best part was the "alicornication," which I encapsulate in quotes because she's clearly not an actual alicorn, y'all. Frankly, I'm actually kind of surprised the procedure worked at all, would have had to be very cobbled-together since I'm pretty sure the biology of an alicorn is pretty different from that of a unicorn... figuring out what to do with the wings, nerve endings for controlling all that stuff, not to mention that I'd not be surprised if earth pony bits allowed for an easier transition into the new gear and whatnot... Anyway, that's headcanon. Point is, it was terrifying, and the stuff after about alienation rang true. Might have pissed some folks off, I guess, but I thought it was brill. Seriously, though. Wings and a horn does not an alicorn make. If anything, Blackjack is now a "winged unicorn" - the OLD term for an alicorn. =P

-I'm an idiot, what was on the paper.

-This song. It fits very, very well with this chapter, or at least my understanding of much of the chapter. "The struggle to free myself from restraint becomes my very shackles." Quite. "The feeding frenzy of my starving soul, gnawing voraciously at the bones, the exo-skeletal patchwork protecting my own reflection within; the twin-and-same engaged in the mirrored act of chewing away at the shell of my attacking self. The paradox unseen. Treacherous, this deceit to make no choice matter. To have and yet lose yourself, until finally all reasons why are forgotten." Indeed. Seriously, the whole thing hits a ton of PH's themes, a bunch of which are hitting their apex in this chapter. Obviously it's not easy listening, though.

-Lighthooves' death was... okay. I want it explored more, the decision Blackjack made. Even if she doesn't feel bad about it, I want her to explore that, y'know? I would have been fine, I think, with the paragraph-long death, btw. I like anticlimactic showdowns, especially for characters who mostly just scheme, not fight.

-If the next episode were to have Tiberius the opossum in it, that would be all right.

-From an experiential standpoint, the cybernetics are terrifying. I trust you, dude, but I really hope you know what you're doing with this. Pretty sure you do. Body-alienation theme taken and refined from the original FOE, both BJ and Pip "ascend into technomagical godhood" after a fashion but at extreme personal cost.

Ayup, them's my thoughts up there! Glad you've got work fixed up for January, congrats on that front, and on getting this one out the gate! Looking forward to the next one; always seem to enjoy the aftermath chapters.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by WavemasterRyx on Thu Dec 19, 2013 5:27 am

Alright well... I'm not even close to done...  Made okay progress last night, and then pretty much none today.

I reached that scene though, and I'm crying too much to continue, even if it wasn't past when I should be asleep.  I think I'll just post what I have so far though, so you guys don't have to wait forever until the whole thing is done.

*hugs Somber and Hinds each a little*

Chapter 62b Commentary part 1:


"Yeah, I wasn't expecting that either," - Neither was I.  Having the interior of the tower completely open isn't the most unorthodox choice for a flying species, but having it be a giant wind-tunnel seems like it should violate some kind of safety regulation.  If any pony would ignore that for the sake of cool though, it's Rainbow Dash heh.  It's too bad she didn't have a map of the tower to give Blackjack though, knowing the door would try to kill her would have been helpful.

It's a good thing Dash had the tower made to be compatible with non-pegasi too.  I was worried she come up to the elevator control and her hoof would go right through it.  Not that the elevator ride went particularly well for her, I mean geeze...  The fact that the beams could hurt Blackjack so badly definitely speaks to how dangerous they are, as well as their melting through the elevator platform.  Poor Boo, getting the molten metal on her must really hurt...

I'm really worried about Blackjack having no ammo.  Conventional weapons have always played a major role in her arsenal, and without them, she's left with continually dwindling means with which to deal with enemies.

"Fortunately, I had a skeleton key." - Eternally sharp swords are so nice for that, makes me miss the old D&D vorpal blades that actually worked that way.  I can imagine P-21 being flustered if she over-used it though, heh.

Interchangeable legs would be very useful to have, though it makes it worse when you can, but you get caught in a situation where you're unable to switch effectively.

"I'm glad you're here.  I really miss my friends." - It's not a very long scene, with Blackjack thinking about her friends, nuzzling Boo and sneezing at the dust, but I think it's an /absolutely/ adorable scene.

I'd forgotten who Mephitis was... I think Blackjack covered my response pretty well in his regard.

Boo is still adorable, and of course she knows which way to go.  For cake.  I'm not afraid to admit that that made me smile quite a lot.  She's also been getting really good at opening the packages.

"You don't have a jamming device in all that?" - Ah, I wonder if she got one with her upgrades though?  Could certainly come in handy some times.

"It'd been a joke.  I should have taken it like a joke.  Instead, I turned and slammed him into the wall" - Poor Blackjack...  Just on its own, her reaction makes for a fairly sad scene.  When you take it as the setup for what happens later though it really stings.

"No chance at all.  That's why he's connecting them to the stable's reactor." - Well that's certainly a surprise too, and another reason having a map would have been really helpful for forming her plan.

"It was something a smarter pony than me could have figured out." - Poor Blackjack...  I think her not being a very smart pony does add to the impact of story elements when she finally figures them out though.

It's kinda nice to have her looking through the Stable and comparing it to 99, thinking over how it works.  I'm not sure if "nostalgic" is really the right term, but it's certainly nice.

"A moment later, with a plate of snack cakes balanced on her rump and one in her mouth, Boo followed after us.  She'd somehow been able to weaponize cute." - Well she certainly is cute enough for it.  As for those who say I've influenced her growth in this direction, I'd say it's hardly the case...  She's always been this cute on her own, I've just tried to do what little I could to pay tribute to it...

Every time a pony actually cooperates with Blackjack it still surprises me, and it's certainly refreshing for something to go okay.  Overmare Farsight seems like a nice pony, I really hope they were able to get out of the blast zone in time.  Even though the situation is so dire, and their conversation certainly wasn't cheerful, it did have a nice, positive feeling to it.

It's probably a /very/ good thing Blackjack contacted Crumpets about the refugees instead of Stronghooves...  Now would not have been a good time at all for a little friendly inquiry as to how Lacunae was doing...

"Blackjack, you heard me say that Raptors are rare, didn't you?" "She needs incentives in her life." - I know you've always said you could never write a comedy, Somber, but I do so love the bits of humor that come with Project Horizons.  It makes it just that much easier to love the characters, I think that is a part of why I've always liked Rampage especially.

I really do feel sorry for the three cyberponies Chicanery takes out (for all of his... former... soldiers really).  They lost so much just because they thought they were protecting their home.  I wonder what would have happened if they'd lived...  Could they all have been helped, or even any of them?

The little exchange between Blackjack and Twister was quite sad, especially because Twister's feelings seem so genuine.

Yeah, I think "killing field" is probably the only way to describe that interior of the tower...  A confined area with barely any cover, those damnable turrets, and every advantage of height against you...  Trying to picture it actually makes my heart sink a little.

"Bullshit.  You know exactly what you need to do.  Precisely what you have to do." - Compared to how Echo used to treat Blackjack, this is such an incredibly forward approach.  I guess that shows how close they've gotten after all this time, no more playing games.

And finally, the surgery...  I won't lie, this scene hurt a lot, enough that it was still haunting me for nearly the entire day after reading.  The trauma of the surgery, and Blackjack giving up most of what little she had left that made her a pony was painful, even more so for having Glory finally return to normal.  For as painful as it is though, the surgery and Blackjack's immediate breakdown afterwards were very well written, and I think very properly impactful.  Having Boo finally speak and using it to bring Blackjack out of her rage hit me almost as hard as the surgery scene itself.  Incredibly emotional.


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Post by Guest on Thu Dec 19, 2013 6:21 am

Luminous Lead wrote:And at least a quarter of them are DIRECTLY related to Twilight Sparkle.

Wat.

I'm pretty sure that's not how the Alicorns work...

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Post by Adalbertus on Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:24 am

ooooh, alicorns...
The idea was so abstract it didn't occur to me
No, I don't think alicorns are a viable option here.
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Luminous Lead wrote:And at least a quarter of them are DIRECTLY related to Twilight Sparkle.

Wat.

I'm pretty sure that's not how the Alicorns work...
I think he may have actually been talking about the Society. We know Grace is related to Twilight, and I believe it was mentioned that a few others were also related to her as well...but it's just as likely that I'm an idiot and it never says that anywhere...


My other guess is the Twilight Society because I'm pretty sure many of them were related to Twilight I'm some way...
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