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Post by Vinylshadow on Tue May 27, 2014 8:25 am

I'd hardly call Zebras a minority, especially since we have Zonies in high places
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Post by O. Hinds on Tue May 27, 2014 12:21 pm

Harmony wrote:I forgot to put "zebra" between "equestrian" and "mino-majority" (demographic group so large it would be unfair to call it a minority)
Oh. :D
Anyway, though, yes, I kind of like the idea.

Vinylshadow wrote:I'd hardly call Zebras a minority, especially since we have Zonies in high places
Why would that make them not a minority?
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Post by Vinylshadow on Tue May 27, 2014 12:52 pm

Not really sure how to explain it

the same way Mexicans and Asians aren't a minority in America?
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Post by Harmony Ltd. on Tue May 27, 2014 2:04 pm

How do you define "minority" here?
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Post by Vinylshadow on Wed May 28, 2014 9:00 am

They're not the ones that make up stupid laws and rules
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Post by O. Hinds on Wed May 28, 2014 1:45 pm

Ah. I'm just defining it as "a group in a population that is not the largest group in that population". I'd say that it's quite possible to have a minority be in charge.
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Post by Vinylshadow on Wed May 28, 2014 1:50 pm

Fair enough

I have very...interesting....views on that kind of subject

call it what you like, I'm a bit of an arse when it comes to races

...maybe that explains why I seem to get a sadistic pleasure out of writing ponies butchering each other just because they don't have wings or a horn

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Re: [Fallout Equestria] Setting discussions

Post by O. Hinds on Thu May 29, 2014 12:55 pm

Okay, the outline to the rest of what ATR was planned to be has gone up, and it looks like it wouldn't really impact our large-scale worldbuilding very much anyway.
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Re: [Fallout Equestria] Setting discussions

Post by Harmony Ltd. on Thu May 29, 2014 1:39 pm

Harmony Ltd. wrote:
Scienza wrote:
Harmony Ltd. wrote:"Good morning!" (the view from the hotel room)
Well that's... scenic.
Isn't it?
(source post)

This reminded me of the discussions we had regarding the Manehatten War Memorial.


By the way, where's that outline, if it is public?
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Post by Harmony Ltd. on Thu May 29, 2014 2:10 pm

Scenery inspiration: http://i.imgur.com/Dhs11Aa.jpg
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Re: [Fallout Equestria] Setting discussions

Post by O. Hinds on Thu May 29, 2014 6:41 pm

Harmony wrote:By the way, where's that outline, if it is public?
Oh, it's over in the ATR thread.

Harmony wrote:Scenery inspiration: http://i.imgur.com/Dhs11Aa.jpg
Nice!
Could be a lot of places…  Not Elusive City, that's metal and plastic, not concrete.  If you cleaned off the graffiti and put the people in uniforms of one form or another rather than civilian clothes, it might be in Masozi; the musicians would probably be soldiers off duty and relaxing with a hobby.  In the same way, it might be Thornbush, though there there'd be "civilian" Banner members as well as the soldiers.  It could be Profectum, probably somewhere in the more dedicated-university areas of the tunnels (some of the new university facilities are on the surface around or on the mesa), graffiti, civilian clothes, musicians, and all.
That's all I can think of at the moment, and I have some homework I ought to be doing.

edit: Oh, and pretty nice picture in general. That's the Paris Metro?
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Post by Harmony Ltd. on Fri May 30, 2014 2:48 am

Yes, that's the Paris metro. More specifically a part of the Chatelet - Les Halles sprawling giant underground station.
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Post by Harmony Ltd. on Fri May 30, 2014 5:25 am

Are there commercial malls in Elusive?

I can easily see it happening. There and in A-Town in Manehatten.
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Post by O. Hinds on Fri May 30, 2014 11:45 am

Harmony wrote:Yes, that's the Paris metro. More specifically a part of the Chatelet - Les Halles sprawling giant underground station.
As I said, nice.

Harmony wrote:Are there commercial malls in Elusive?

I can easily see it happening. There and in A-Town in Manehatten.
Aye, there's at least one.
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Post by Harmony Ltd. on Fri May 30, 2014 12:28 pm

Man, imagine the culture shock when NCR citizens come and visit a mall in A-Town, complete with the elevator music, the coffee shops, the advertising holograms and all that shit; with tons of stores full to the brim with Alliance-made consumer goods.

Hmmm... Would all that be duty-free? I kinda doubt it. Though it could be a move to stimulate the tourism industry in Manehatten.
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Post by O. Hinds on Fri May 30, 2014 12:40 pm

Harmony wrote:Man, imagine the culture shock when NCR citizens come and visit a mall in A-Town, complete with the elevator music, the coffee shops, the advertising holograms and all that shit; with tons of stores full to the brim with Alliance-made consumer goods.
Which is of course a big part of the point. :D

Harmony wrote:Hmmm... Would all that be duty-free? I kinda doubt it. Though it could be a move to stimulate the tourism industry in Manehatten.
Yeah, probably not. A-Town isn't actually Alliance territory, more sort of leased, and the NCR would at least want to make some money from the Alliance's attempts to seduce its citizens.
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Post by Vinylshadow on Fri May 30, 2014 1:09 pm

Why do I get the feeling of Equestria as being similar to Pangaea?

Makes me wonder if there's French and Asian ponies
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Post by O. Hinds on Fri May 30, 2014 1:25 pm

Vinylshadow wrote:Why do I get the feeling of Equestria as being similar to Pangaea?

Makes me wonder if there's French and Asian ponies
What do you mean?
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Post by swicked on Fri May 30, 2014 1:28 pm

Vinylshadow wrote:Why do I get the feeling of Equestria as being similar to Pangaea?

Makes me wonder if there's French and Asian ponies
...you mean like Prance and Neighpon?

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Post by Harmony Ltd. on Fri May 30, 2014 1:45 pm

Unfortunately, Neighpon got annihilated in the Days of Fire.

Prance... did we put that one on the map? If not, should we? If yes, I could see it as not being on the Peninsula, actually. A pony nation on the northern coast of the Maredetirranean? With its inhabitants being kinda related (at least in physical appearance) to the Saddle Arabians (see: how Fleur-de-Lis looks)
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Post by swicked on Fri May 30, 2014 1:51 pm

Harmony Ltd. wrote:Unfortunately, Neighpon got annihilated in the Days of Fire.

Prance... did we put that one on the map? If not, should we? If yes, I could see it as not being on the Peninsula, actually. A pony nation on the northern coast of the Maredetirranean? With its inhabitants being kinda related (at least in physical appearance) to the Saddle Arabians (see: how Fleur-de-Lis looks)
Saddle Arabians are the same size as Celestia, while Fleur-de-Lis only has the body proportions... not the size. I would figure she has mixed blood.

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Re: [Fallout Equestria] Setting discussions

Post by Vinylshadow on Fri May 30, 2014 2:00 pm

Fleur uses the same body style as Princess Luna, if that helps

I've heard Prance mentioned a few times but have never really gotten a clear version of it

I wonder if they have a....um...Equine Tower?

Doesn't Friendship City have have the Statue of Friendship or is that in Manehatten?

I'd love to see Ponified versions of Italy (Although Roam seems to be Zebra territory...)
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Post by Harmony Ltd. on Fri May 30, 2014 2:15 pm

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Harmony Ltd. wrote:Unfortunately, Neighpon got annihilated in the Days of Fire.

Prance... did we put that one on the map? If not, should we? If yes, I could see it as not being on the Peninsula, actually. A pony nation on the northern coast of the Maredetirranean? With its inhabitants being kinda related (at least in physical appearance) to the Saddle Arabians (see: how Fleur-de-Lis looks)
Saddle Arabians are the same size as Celestia, while Fleur-de-Lis only has the body proportions... not the size. I would figure she has mixed blood.
That's the idea, considering how many north african and "arabs" there are in France, irl.
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Post by O. Hinds on Fri May 30, 2014 4:50 pm

I've just been assuming that Prance was the region around Fancee.

Also, Vinylshadow, I still don't understand the "Why do I get the feeling of Equestria as being similar to Pangaea?" question.
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Post by Harmony Ltd. on Fri May 30, 2014 4:53 pm

Well, spank me and call me Sally. I had forgotten we actually had a "Fancee" on the map already.
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Post by O. Hinds on Fri May 30, 2014 5:25 pm

Ah. :)
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Post by Harmony Ltd. on Fri May 30, 2014 6:00 pm

So, if it's still relevant in 30 SR somehow, chances are it's part of the Northern League (which existence itself depends on how PH is going to end).
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Post by Vinylshadow on Fri May 30, 2014 6:01 pm

I mean it's all one big landmass with no areas overseas

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Post by Harmony Ltd. on Fri May 30, 2014 6:20 pm

O. Hinds on v.12 of his Equestria map wrote:update v1.12 2014-5-26: changed the names of New Oatleans (since ATR is now sadly officially dead and someone pointed out that Neighorleans sounds better) and St. Paulomino (since I realized that the "St." didn't make much sense)
Then you also need to change "San Frantello" to something else, given the "San" of "San Francisco" comes from the spanish "Santo", which means saint.


Re Pangea: Hinds published a while ago a complete worldmap, showing there exist at least one other continent (on which sits the Crystal Empire). Thus Equus (the planet's name) isn't a complete pangea.


By the way, an idea that will probably have no impact on the setting, but... If I'm not mistaken, on the hemisphere opposed to the Zebrican-Equestrian super-continent is an ocean that puts the Pacific to shame in term of vastness.

How about some polynesian meta-culture over there?

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Post by O. Hinds on Fri May 30, 2014 8:38 pm

Harmony wrote:So, if it's still relevant in 30 SR somehow, chances are it's part of the Northern League (which existence itself depends on how PH is going to end).
If it extends that far west (and I don't see why not), sure.

Vinylshadow wrote:I mean it's all one big landmass with no areas overseas
Equestria?  Are you speaking of a universe that is not the universe we're speaking of?

Harmony wrote:Then you also need to change "San Frantello" to something else, given the "San" of "San Francisco" comes from the spanish "Santo", which means saint.
Hm, I don't think so.  "San" isn't an abbreviation.  If you really think that it's needed, I'll do it, but I prefer not to update the map when I don't have to.

Harmony wrote:Re Pangea: Hinds published a while ago a complete worldmap, showing there exist at least one other continent (on which sits the Crystal Empire). Thus Equus (the planet's name) isn't a complete pangea.
Yeah, sorry, the world map's still in alpha and unreleased.  You can find bits and pieces of various versions of it scattered through the thread, though.
Anyway, there are (currently, at least) two proper continents, the Northern Continent and the Southern Continent.  The Northern Continent is entirely taken up by the Crystal Empire and, currently, the Southern Kingdom (which is still too in alpha to post).  The Southern Continent is mostly undefined, but I'm pretty sure that Zebrica is officially an ill-defined continent despite being being part of the Southern Continent in the same way that Europe is officially an ill-defined continent despite being part of Eurasia.  And then Equestria is of course a (or on a, depending on whose maps you look at; Equestria claims the entire peninsula, but the Highlanders would dispute that) peninsula extending from Zebrica but was likely considered separate from Zebrica in the same way that Britain is from Europe (though it's a bit more difficult with Equestria, since Equestria does have a land border).  And I'm afraid that my maps tend to mix tenses…

Harmony wrote:By the way, an idea that will probably have no impact on the setting, but... If I'm not mistaken, on the hemisphere opposed to the Zebrican-Equestrian super-continent is an ocean that puts the Pacific to shame in term of vastness.
It's a pretty big ocean, yes.
pictures of the current world map alpha version, with and without plate lines shown:



(Marecanteria is another country I've enough ideas about to put on the map but not yet enough to coherently explain, sorry.)

Harmony wrote:How about some polynesian meta-culture over there?

[cue seaponies]
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