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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Valikdu on Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:54 pm

Correction: he didn't find anything awful about the characters or narrative over the first two chapters. He hadn't read past that yet.


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Post by Caoimhe on Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:56 pm

Pink Eyes is the real memey one right?

One of my criticisms of PH is that it's too short. I want it to go on forever and ever amen.
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Post by Valikdu on Fri Jul 26, 2013 4:05 pm

Actually, here's everything that he wrote about Pink Eyes:
Some text:
Link to the blog post: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/lb_i.php?lb_id=13398853770B89940100&i_id=13701036520I52320400&p=59

Pannic wrote:
Here We Go Again

So, since I have nothing better to do, let's look at a Fallout: Equestria sidefic. But which one? I could talk about Murky Number Seven. I could spend a lot of time talking about why I like it, but I’ll save that for later.

Today's story is Pink Eyes, which, like the original and Murky Number Seven, is one of the "Big Five" of Fallout: Equestria fics, with the other two being Project Horizons and Heroes. Pink Eyes, however, stands unique on account of the fact that of the major side-fics, it's actually finished.

Chapters aren't as long as Murky Number Seven. Alright, here we go.

We start off in Canterlot with the bombs smashing against the shield. Ponies are lined up for an air wagon, desperate to get out of the city. One mare panics and is shot down by a guard.

A unicorn medical officer, meanwhile, notices a little filly standing all by her lonesome. This little filly is Puppysmiles, our protagonist, and she's waiting for her mother. We get a look at the medical officer's thoughts... is she the POV character for this part? In any case, she drops a line in her thoughts about the war killing hope. Subtle statement of the theme there.

The medical officer slips her into a radsuit. Puppysmiles thinks it's super-cool, like she's in a space-suit. And it occurs to me that I'm not sure whether her personality is childlike innocence or if she's just a Cloud Cuckoolander. Maybe both. Either way, she makes a decent first impression. She's fun. She's not particularly annoying. So I guess she qualifies as likable.

Then the prose sort of shifts to describing things from Puppy's POV, and she's having a super duper great time, completely oblivious to the grave seriousness of everything that's happening.

So, with her super-duper new suit, she heads on home. However, when she goes to the fridge, she finds that she can't take off her helmet. And then it turns out that the suit can talk. It's got a computer program with a voice that gives status updates and whatnot. Puppysmiles is highly surprised and a little confused. But the medical diagnostic system comes online just as she hears screams coming from outside. The Pink Cloud is doing its thing.

Man. Now I'm reminded of chapter 37, which was basically Dead Money minus anything that anyone actually liked about Dead Money.

No, bad Pannic.

Anyway, the Pink Cloud and the radiation starts seeping into the building, and the suit starts spamming her with Med-X and RadAway, over and over again. The suit warns her to leave, but she's still waiting for her mommy...

Wow. I almost felt something. Better see a doctor to make sure there isn't something wrong there.

And then Puppysmiles succumbs to the toxic cloud. And there she lies for two hundred years...

And the story has what appears to be a little gimmick where it keeps track of the days and the time.

Another thing I notice is that the story is basically a big wall of text. In fanfiction it’s traditional to use a full space between paragraphs, while in “legit” literature you indent the paragraphs. This story does neither. Thankfully it’s still readable - the author does hit “Enter” before each paragraph, so it’s not like I’m getting lost. It’s just weird is all.

As for the prose, there really isn’t anything to say. It’s very straightforward and to the point, more or less. Not that I’m expecting the author to be weaving words like F Patrick Fitzgerald - English isn’t their first language. That’d just be unreasonable.

Anyway, Puppysmiles wakes up and the first thing she does is call for her mom.

The suit's computer program also comes online, and Puppysmiles tries talking with it. Of course, its functionalities don't give her completely what she wants, and she doesn't understand it. For example, it reads her vitals and finds that she's actually dead. And when she asks the voice where her mom is, it proceeds to give her directions to the nearest Ministry of Morale hub outside of Canterlot.

So Puppysmiles sets off down the road singing “Warning Wrap-Up” as the suit talks about how it’s out of medical supplies and it’s lost all emergency channels.

Puppysmiles calls the suit’s program “Mister Voice” and tries to talk with it, though being that it’s a simple computer program with no personality or emotions, that doesn’t really work out. But I don’t think she notices. Despite this, Mister Voice manages to have infinitely more character than Xenith.

She comes across a ghoul, which Mister Voice designates as Hostile. And she hears it as “Horse-Tile.”

Puppysmiles, despite her general obliviousness, suspects something is wrong with her, and asks Mister Voice if she’s sick. And then she doesn’t know the difference between “deceased” and “diseased.”

So she exits Canterlot and gets attacked by some raiders. They puncture her suit and one of them gets a faceful of pink cloud. The results are predictable. Quite gory. And a bit funny how a face-melting is described as being like ice cream melting on a hot summer day.

Wacky comedy, sads, horrific gore - the tone of this piece is all over the place. Mood whiplash galore, but I guess that’s really befitting of the black comedy. Thankfully that doesn’t really bother me too much - I enjoy some good whiplash. It can be fun.

So she continues her sojourn and encounters a Spritebot, having a brief conversation with Watcher. She explains her predicament and what happened to her and how she’s looking for her mom, but Watcher just doesn’t have the heart to tell her the truth.

Oh hey, the fic gets her SPECIAL loadout. And the footnote asks if monsters gain levels.

So the prose is kinda pedestrian. That isn’t really important. What’s important is the characters. And Puppysmiles is, admittedly, endearing. The story also gives her a very simple, straightforward goal - look for her mother. Though I imagine that’s something of a foregone conclusion. To make it simple, I will ask three questions:

Do I care?

Am I interested?

Am I entertained?

If the answer to any of these questions is “yes,” then whoop-de-doo, I have a reason to keep reading. Do I care? Not sure. Foregone conclusion in regards to the main question diminishes that investment. Interested? Well, it’s a unique premise. Am I entertained? Yes.

So chapter 1 of Pink Eyes is a success.


//====================

On the road with a kid. Oh boy.


You know, I've found a couple terrible Harry Potter fics that I could make fun of. There's The Girl Who Lived, which is an attempt at rewriting the books except it's hilariously terrible, and The Last War, a shipfic which horrendously derails the characters. Some potential. Haven't looked into any of that Sweeney Todd stuff except for something I've seen sporked. Been kinda lazy there. Been kinda lazy in general. But let's get on with this Pink Eyes stuff.

Holy shit, the author learned to space and indent paragraphs. Gold star!

Slight tense confusion.

>>> First of all, if you were to survive a direct hit from a balefire spell, you'll probably to live long enough to die of thirst inside the suit.

But then, this guy's English is better than my Italian. Thankfully all the Italian I have to do is pre-written and notated.

So Puppysmiles sets off on the road and comes across a couple of ruffians who call themselves the Redtrotters. Of course, they're raiders and they murder her before trying to loot. Though unlike the raiders in Canterlot, they have the sense to back away from the pink cloud leaking out of her suit and thus don't die horribly.

However, the suit magically repairs the breach and Puppysmiles comes to again. Yay.

The suit informs her of her current objectives, modeled after what she's stated. One, fine mom. Two, get rid of space suit. Three, confront and/or avoid Mister Horse Tile. Four, find Redtrotters.

Oh, goodie, we're getting our plot points lined up. Not sure how Horse Tile is supposed to come up again, given he's a ghoul back in Canterlot. Mister Voice tells her how her inventory system works.

>>> Loading instructions. Selecting easy version for foals and Derpy.

Funny.

Anyway, she trots right into the Redtrotters' camp. I do find the scenario funny. We've got a band of hardened gangers making threats at a kid in a spacesuit who is unaware of any danger, and not really in a whole lot of danger because she's a zombie with regenerating powers.

They take something from her and give her a pass, slightly confused about the whole deal, and she goes along her way.

She finds the Ministry of Morale location and prances in, hoping to find her mom. She doesn't find one, however, but she finds a Pinkbot that invites her to a party. And there she finds another guest, a trapped filly who's giggling due to nitrous oxide.

Oh boy, we are taking a turn for the darker.

Puppysmiles makes an effort to free the other filly, but the Pinkbot won't let them leave without an adult's permission. Puppysmiles, however, grabs a rock and starts smashing the robot, angrily demanding to know where her mom is.

Then the robot explodes, and the turrets turn on her. Big explosions, and the barn collapses, burying her alive. Well... burying her undead...

Sheeeeesh, are the turrets set to perforate anyone who attacks the robots? What happens if it's just a rambunctious kid? Gonna perforate a rowdy colt?

She recovers and argues with Mister Voice, who doesn't seem to be able to grasp that she wants to find her mother. Of course, with that Ministry of Morale hub destroyed, Mister Voice just marks the location of the next one.

She runs into Watcher again, who wishes her well, and she sets off on the road again.

However, the two Redtrotters who tried to kill her the other day catch up with her and demand to know how she isn't dead. Also, we learn that the filly Puppysmiles saved was named Ridge Racer.

RIIIIIIII-

No. That stopped being funny seven years ago.

Anyway, they decide she's retarded, one of them, Rattling Bones, gives her a pass to Salt Cube City and thanks her for rescuing her sister from the crazy Pinkbot.

So Puppysmiles asks if Mister Voice is gonna go away once they find mom. Mister Voice replies that the suit's fused to her, so that's a no-go. Puppysmiles decides that's okay for now, and at least Mister Voice finds her requests predictable with 95% accuracy.

Well, that was charming.

*shrug*
Well, I don't see anything disqualifying.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Derpmind on Fri Jul 26, 2013 4:26 pm

I forgot that the first few chapters of Pink Eyes were fun. Stupid, but fun. (Is that joke still funny?)

I think I stopped reading around when Puppysmiles got semi-possessed by the spirit of Nightmare Moon.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Evilgidgit on Fri Jul 26, 2013 4:31 pm

I read Pink Eyes from beginning to end and I thought it was really fun and unique to see the world of Fallout Equestria from the eyes of a whatever-age-Puppysmiles-is-year-old.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Moodyman90 on Fri Jul 26, 2013 4:40 pm

I admit that Pink Eye isn't the strongest story in the Fallout Universe, but it's good for what it is. I can't remember where I heard it but some people see Pink Eye like a legend of events that did happen but some details have gotten distorted over time.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Icy Shake on Fri Jul 26, 2013 6:56 pm

Caoimhe wrote:Pink Eyes is the real memey one right?

One of my criticisms of PH is that it's too short. I want it to go on forever and ever amen.

Glory be to the Somber, and to the Hoof, and to the Star Maiden, as it was in '11, is now, and ever shall be, Project without end. Amen.

On a more serious note, Pink Eyes was often pretty fun, and even had some (from what I remember) pretty decent side characters. The major problem I had with it, though, was that to date it still has (IMO, natch) the absolute worst version of the Nightmare I've seen in fanfic.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by swicked on Fri Jul 26, 2013 7:18 pm

The dialogue was always really awkward, to me. Puppysmiles' behavior grated on me, and her mental maturity fluctuated a lot. I couldn't be brought to care about any of them, every confrontation ended anticlimactically and its ending, with the exception of "evil puppy", was pretty obvious.

I hated hearing puppy's voice, though. I always just wanted her to shut up. On a personal level, as she is a deliberate attempt at cuteness, I wanted nothing but harm to befall her.
I skimmed almost the entire story after the first few chapters (slowing down a bit for miss voice, which was pretty funny) and never really got the draw.

I would never recommend that brain-numbing fic, but hey, that's just me.

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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by SilentCarto on Fri Jul 26, 2013 7:53 pm

P-21: Hey, Blackjack, I was just-- Uh... I'm sorry, are you...?
BJ: Pissing on my high-pressure ammo? Yeah.
P-21: Any particular reason why?
BJ: *big grin* I call it "9mm +P Plus Pee"!

Editing:

I noticed a little mistake when I was looking back at the description of Folly in Ch. 5.
It loaded from a breech like a break action shotgun, but clearly it’d been engineered for precision.
Should be "but it had clearly been".
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by FeatherDust on Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:03 pm

Derpmind wrote:I forgot that the first few chapters of Pink Eyes were fun. Stupid, but fun. (Is that joke still funny?)

I think I stopped reading around when Puppysmiles got semi-possessed by the spirit of Nightmare Moon.
Ugh.  Did that happen?

I wallbanger'd it at the fight at the laughing gas farm when she destroyed a killer robot by headbutting it until it died.

Understand: I don't actually have a problem with a character headbutting a killer robot to death (though it strikes me as a fairly stupid concept), but this is a character who is supposed to be cute and innocent, and she just immediately snaps into a killer death machine for no apparent reason.

It makes it simply impossible to accept when she's supposedly back to being blithely innocent about violence on the next page.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by O. Hinds on Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:10 pm

SilentCarto wrote:
Editing:

I noticed a little mistake when I was looking back at the description of Folly in Ch. 5.
It loaded from a breech like a break action shotgun, but clearly it’d been engineered for precision.
Should be "but it had clearly been".
Sorry, but why? As far as I can tell, those two are equivalent in meaning and equally valid.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by SilentCarto on Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:17 pm

swicked wrote:He likes Pink Eyes?

Yeah, no, I don't think I will be reading his blog...
I giggled because it's true...

Evilgidgit wrote:I read Pink Eyes from beginning to end and I thought it was really fun and unique to see the world of Fallout Equestria from the eyes of a whatever-age-Puppysmiles-is-year-old.
The trouble is, she doesn't act like an anything-year-old. Children aren't stupid; they're ignorant. If you want to approximate a child's behavior, imagine what a monkey would do, and you're 90% of the way there. Puppysmiles acts like almost the complete inverse of that -- rather than fearing the unknown and being traumatized by the loss of everything she's considered familiar and permanent, or even getting caught up in the excitement of exploring a brand-new world without rules or authority figures, she just trots along, blithely cheerful about all the horror and obvious danger around her, forcing the world to fit into her immutable worldview.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by swicked on Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:35 pm

What Carto said.
Absolutely.

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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by SilentCarto on Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:35 pm

O. Hinds wrote:Sorry, but why?  As far as I can tell, those two are equivalent in meaning and equally valid.
http://faculty.washington.edu/marynell/grammar/AdverbPl.html
Adverbs of certaintly, such as "clearly", go after state of being verbs and before other verbs. "Had been" becomes "had clearly been". (In this case, it doesn't go between "been" and "engineered" because it hasn't been "engineered" in a "clear" way, it is "clear" that it has "been engineered".)
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Valikdu on Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:47 pm

SilentCarto wrote:
swicked wrote:He likes Pink Eyes?

Yeah, no, I don't think I will be reading his blog...
I giggled because it's true...

I shouldn't have written that...
He doesn't *like Pink Eyes in its entirety*, he'd just haven't found any notable serious faults yet. I've put full quotes from the blog posts on PE into a post above.
Again, he'd just read the two first chapters and has apparently not seen any other analyses previously. Can't come to a reasonable conclusion about the entire thing based on just this.

His full examination of the original is, in my view, really valuable.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Derpmind on Fri Jul 26, 2013 9:36 pm

SilentCarto wrote:I noticed a little mistake when I was looking back at the description of Folly in Ch. 5.
It loaded from a breech like a break action shotgun, but clearly it’d been engineered for precision.
Should be "but it had clearly been".

I think the part in question is close enough to mental dialogue to be a valid use.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Icy Shake on Fri Jul 26, 2013 9:38 pm

SilentCarto wrote:
O. Hinds wrote:Sorry, but why?  As far as I can tell, those two are equivalent in meaning and equally valid.
http://faculty.washington.edu/marynell/grammar/AdverbPl.html
Adverbs of certaintly, such as "clearly", go after state of being verbs and before other verbs. "Had been" becomes "had clearly been". (In this case, it doesn't go between "been" and "engineered" because it hasn't been "engineered" in a "clear" way, it is "clear" that it has "been engineered".)

This seems like a case where Blackjack may be narrating in a more colloquial voice, more like speech than writing (or, what Derpmind said). However, even that is ignoring that, even adjectives of certainty other than "surely," "maybe," and "perhaps" can begin sentences, if often with a comma, i.e. "Undoubtedly, this is a grammatical sentence—or one that at least follows a structure common in speech." In context, the following would surely work as a standalone sentence: Clearly, it'd been engineered for precision.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by ARoundCorner on Sat Jul 27, 2013 12:40 am

Wow, Pannic is so negative about everything on his blog. His blog is just a page of negativity followed by a paragraph of cynicism with more negativity.

Is the entire purpose of his liveblog to trash other people's work...?

Here's a quote from page 17 of his blog.


"After a little thought, I might not be continuing The Ballad of Twilight Sparkle on this liveblog. It seems the story might not really suck, and after viewing so much fucking awful Sonic crossover shipping art (why does this exist?) Twixie seems rather benign in comparison."


So Pannic is basically saying that he won't continue his reading of a Fanfic because it "might not really suck"?

Then again... the title of his liveblog is "Pannic Reads Stuff He Hates," but if he really hated it that much... how in god's name did he read all 45 chapters of FoE. I really liked it, but it still took me a long time to get through it all. (I found FoE after it was completed)


Either he really does like it... or he really likes putting people down... or he just has balls of steel.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by swicked on Sat Jul 27, 2013 1:04 am

I read FOE and really didn't care for it. I read it for PH, though... and maybe because I was bored.

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Post by thatguyvex on Sat Jul 27, 2013 1:23 am

Guess I'm the odd man out, because I treat fanfiction like I treat food.

And I am not a skinny man.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Valikdu on Sat Jul 27, 2013 7:15 am

ARoundCorner wrote:Wow, Pannic is so negative about everything on his blog. His blog is just a page of negativity followed by a paragraph of cynicism with more negativity.

Is the entire purpose of his liveblog to trash other people's work...?
I'd say that it's the style he's using. I've seen it used by multiple people who are reviewing things; it rubs others the wrong way sometimes, but I kind of like it more than the alternative (which is what Seraphem's doing).
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Harmony Ltd. on Sat Jul 27, 2013 7:58 am

As long as there's substance behind it, I like my criticism scathing. At least it gets people's attention.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by swicked on Sat Jul 27, 2013 10:07 am

How far is he in MN7? It has its share of weaknesses (the worst of which being its pacing, at times, due to the author sometimes making things take longer because he wants them to take longer, repeating himself multiple times to do so) but, so as long as you're not squeemish, it really is written too well to hate.
...well, other than Murky whining and crying, and only that until you understand him.
...and possibly the way the villains act, but only I ever complain about that.

ANYWAY

By comparison, Pink Eyes can really grate on you immeditately, I would think all the more so if you're actively looking for reasons to hate it.
He's read two entire chapters and had NOTHING scathing to say about it at all? I'm having trouble believing he's actually trying.

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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Valikdu on Sat Jul 27, 2013 10:29 am

It's just the first chapter. I think that he's not focusing on one story at a time for now, after finishing the original.
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Post by swicked on Sat Jul 27, 2013 10:40 am

I'm amazed he could just read one chapter and stop. Most people don't seem able to do that. I certainly wasn't... the story really captures you.
...not that this is a complaint against him. More of an observation, really.

But that still doesn't explain why he read two Pink Eyes chapters with barely a complaint. If you want to be scathing, there's plenty to be scathing about, there.

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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by SilentCarto on Sat Jul 27, 2013 11:01 am

swicked wrote:How far is he in MN7? It has its share of weaknesses (the worst of which being its pacing, at times, due to the author sometimes making things take longer because he wants them to take longer, repeating himself multiple times to do so) but, so as long as you're not squeemish, it really is written too well to hate.
My main comment on MN7, not really a criticism per se, is that his chapters need chapters. Why 
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Post by swicked on Sat Jul 27, 2013 11:09 am

Well... yeah, but you can only really get angry at that if you're simultaniously the type to refuse to stop reading before you've finished the chapter, while also hating reading really long chapters.
I dislike reading a ton in one session, myself, but I can find plenty of fairly natural breakpoints throughout that I am more than happy to pause at and pick up again a day or two later.

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Post by CD on Sun Jul 28, 2013 9:36 am

swicked wrote:Well... yeah, but you can only really get angry at that if you're simultaniously the type to refuse to stop reading before you've finished the chapter, while also hating reading really long chapters.
I dislike reading a ton in one session, myself, but I can find plenty of fairly natural breakpoints throughout that I am more than happy to pause at and pick up again a day or two later.

 I follow completely, and yet I find MN7 to be one hell of a read, and not the positive hell. I was under the impression this story pleases the sadistic reader, not the masochistic.
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Post by swicked on Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:56 am

CD wrote:
swicked wrote:Well... yeah, but you can only really get angry at that if you're simultaniously the type to refuse to stop reading before you've finished the chapter, while also hating reading really long chapters.
I dislike reading a ton in one session, myself, but I can find plenty of fairly natural breakpoints throughout that I am more than happy to pause at and pick up again a day or two later.

 I follow completely, and yet I find MN7 to be one hell of a read, and not the positive hell. I was under the impression this story pleases the sadistic reader, not the masochistic.
Not sure I understand what you're saying, here, to be honest...

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Post by CD on Sun Jul 28, 2013 1:35 pm

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CD wrote:
swicked wrote:Well... yeah, but you can only really get angry at that if you're simultaniously the type to refuse to stop reading before you've finished the chapter, while also hating reading really long chapters.
I dislike reading a ton in one session, myself, but I can find plenty of fairly natural breakpoints throughout that I am more than happy to pause at and pick up again a day or two later.

 I follow completely, and yet I find MN7 to be one hell of a read, and not the positive hell. I was under the impression this story pleases the sadistic reader, not the masochistic.
Not sure I understand what you're saying, here, to be honest...

I mean that MN7 is a chore to read through. Project Horizons has some very long chapters, but they all pale in comparison to a single chapter from Murky Number 7, which seems to have an average of 70 pages. This makes it tiring to sit through, and almost destroys my enjoyment if I can't find a good point to stop reading. I do prefer some brevity in my stories.

On the other hand, I do find it enjoyable as a grimdark fic. I said sadistic because it really puts the protagonist through the wringer, as he is almost everything considered pathetic in the Equestrian Wasteland. And to see him repeatedly fail as he swings between despair and hope is an interesting cocktail.
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