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Post by RoboRed on Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:59 pm

Yep. It's happening.

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((If you do, I will invent a Korean technique to block it with someone else's face. And, construct more pylons.))

CamoBadger wrote:((Wow, zebra incest is powerful shit))

Mister Frost's friend, "Darren" wrote:"I'm scared to break up with her, though. Her dad's an ex-marine; if I make her cry he'll club me over the head with a pillowcase full of doorknobs and Tom Clancy novels."

Sindri wrote:This is a thread for fans of a fanfiction of a fanfiction about murderous miniature pastel equines in a grimdark post-apocalyptic future.
If you wanted to stay anywhere near socially acceptable, you should have taken a left turn about three layers of WTF back.

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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Caoimhe on Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:15 pm

Good enough of a reason to read it again.

Or rather after more chapters are posted after the initial boring "weird little nerd instantly becomes killing machine" arc that is the first couple chapters of FoE.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by ARoundCorner on Tue Jul 23, 2013 1:15 am

"In addition, I am aware of the heated opinions surrounding this story.  I will be policing the comments section.  Posts that are rude or hostile will be deleted; trolls and members of hate-groups will be blocked.  My goal with the comments section would be to create a friendly, hospitable atmosphere for people to discuss the story."


I didn't know people still hated the (probably) biggest MLP Fanfic in existence, or is Kkat just writing this as a precaution. I can just imagine all the people sending hate mail because they don't like it. Haha.

Now that this is FIMfiction, I can have all my fanfic in one place! High-five anyone?
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Luminous Lead on Tue Jul 23, 2013 4:33 am

ARoundCorner wrote:"In addition, I am aware of the heated opinions surrounding this story.  I will be policing the comments section.  Posts that are rude or hostile will be deleted; trolls and members of hate-groups will be blocked.  My goal with the comments section would be to create a friendly, hospitable atmosphere for people to discuss the story."


I didn't know people still hated the (probably) biggest MLP Fanfic in existence, or is Kkat just writing this as a precaution. I can just imagine all the people sending hate mail because they don't like it. Haha.

Now that this is FIMfiction, I can have all my fanfic in one place! High-five anyone?

 You're thinking original FOE. I believe PH is still very much a G-Docs thing.

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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Valikdu on Tue Jul 23, 2013 11:16 am

You know what's great about somehow not reading both of the previous chapters and the comment thread? The fact that I was able to do so now, all at once.

And it was awesome.
Well, the chapters were awesome. Some of the sections of the comments, not so much.  Not going to point fingers at anyone, since it's been weeks, but still... I am kind of disappoint.


On the other note: hey, Swicked brought LMR back!


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If only Lancer could see this, Blackjack looking like a true maiden of the stars... I honestly have no idea what he’d be sticking into her.
You know, there's a reason for one of the names for this pairing being "Black Lance". Trollestia
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by swicked on Tue Jul 23, 2013 11:59 am

You're right, double insertion. Totally.

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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by ARoundCorner on Tue Jul 23, 2013 8:59 pm

@Black Lance

 Oh my god.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by O. Hinds on Tue Jul 23, 2013 11:17 pm

...I hadn't heard that name before. Huh. :)
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by RoboRed on Tue Jul 23, 2013 11:51 pm


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jacky2734 wrote:((Aonee, don't make me invent a way to punch you over the internet.))
((If you do, I will invent a Korean technique to block it with someone else's face. And, construct more pylons.))

CamoBadger wrote:((Wow, zebra incest is powerful shit))

Mister Frost's friend, "Darren" wrote:"I'm scared to break up with her, though. Her dad's an ex-marine; if I make her cry he'll club me over the head with a pillowcase full of doorknobs and Tom Clancy novels."

Sindri wrote:This is a thread for fans of a fanfiction of a fanfiction about murderous miniature pastel equines in a grimdark post-apocalyptic future.
If you wanted to stay anywhere near socially acceptable, you should have taken a left turn about three layers of WTF back.

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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Icy Shake on Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:04 am

O. Hinds wrote:...I hadn't heard that name before.  Huh.  :)

Icy Shake wrote:
Downloaded Skill wrote:And so the crack ship of Lancer and BJ has set sail. If there isn't a portmanteau'ed couple name like Gloryjack by the end of the week I'll be disappointed in the Internet.

“With... your body... and the thoughts you’re trying to put inside my head!  Desist!  Now!”
Blancer? BlackJancer? LanceJack? BlackLance? I'm afraid I won't be the one to save the internet from your disappointment.
(Emphasis in original)

I guess it made more of an impression than I expected (that is to say, any), though of course any real success must be in the judgment of Downloaded Skill.

Shameless Punnery:
I guess you could say Black Lance has penetrated the market.
Coo 
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by thatguyvex on Wed Jul 24, 2013 2:52 am

Icy Shake wrote:
Shameless Punnery:
I guess you could say Black Lance has penetrated the market.

As a result its stock has grown enormous.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by O. Hinds on Wed Jul 24, 2013 2:12 pm

Icy Shake wrote:
O. Hinds wrote:...I hadn't heard that name before.  Huh.  :)

Icy Shake wrote:
Downloaded Skill wrote:And so the crack ship of Lancer and BJ has set sail. If there isn't a portmanteau'ed couple name like Gloryjack by the end of the week I'll be disappointed in the Internet.

“With... your body... and the thoughts you’re trying to put inside my head!  Desist!  Now!”
Blancer? BlackJancer? LanceJack? BlackLance? I'm afraid I won't be the one to save the internet from your disappointment.
(Emphasis in original)

I guess it made more of an impression than I expected (that is to say, any), though of course any real success must be in the judgment of Downloaded Skill.

Shameless Punnery:
I guess you could say Black Lance has penetrated the market.
Coo 
Ah, my apologies for forgetting.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by ARoundCorner on Wed Jul 24, 2013 6:59 pm

Saw Batman... thought of Project Horizens...

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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by O. Hinds on Thu Jul 25, 2013 3:34 pm

Reposting here so that Somber will see it.
WovenTales wrote:
swicked wrote:
Valikdu wrote:I've found something really interesting.

This is a liveblog on TVTropes which is basically a Let's Read for the original FoE. The author is a (very) caustic critic, but raises a lot of valid points.
...good. It isn't  that good, particularly on its own.
What it really sells is a world; the rest is average to sub-par.
I definitely agree with that. Kkat (there are a lot of "Kat"s around) did manage to join the worlds of Fallout and MLP much better than anyone imagined was possible, but the story itself isn't as good. Its the recursive fanfiction that really makes Fo:E worth the read; as good as PH, MN7, and All that Remains are, they all need knowledge of the war and the wasteland. PH could probably stand on its own, but a lot of the details of the ministries (and the Stable Dweller jokes) would have to be inferred, and it helps to know Filly and Red Eye's roles in Equestria when following Murky. All that Remains is probably the most easily detachable, but even so, it's written to explore the other side and liking the zebras is much more meaningful when we know the war. "The best thing about Fo:E is that it allows you to read these other, completely amazing stories" isn't much praise (and is perhaps not giving it quite enough credit), but as much as I enjoyed the original (and the second reading I'm giving it), that's pretty much how I feel.

That's part of the reason I don't quite get people complaining about how Somber changes the backstory. It might have been one of the strongest parts of Fo:E, but there's still room for improvement. What PH tells us about the war turns it from a terrible (but somewhat abstract) event to a tragedy. Kkat gave us war; Somber makes us part of it. Ponies aren't trying their best and failing, they're trying their best at something ultimately worthless or unproductive. I remember tearing up a couple times in Fo:E at a character's death (Rarity, Zecora) or at a particularly well-described ruin (Ponyville, I think), to name a few, but I never had the same sense of crushing inevitability that PH gave me a couple times (most notably during the Littlehorn dream). Besides, how is tweaking a few details of the war era so much worse than, for example, saying that Fluttershy was banging Cloud Kicker during flight camp?

Maybe not the best time to say it, but it's late and we're already on the subject of annoying complaints about PH, so what the heck. Why do people insist on saying it's too long, or too slow, or not focused enough on the main storyline? It's not a novel, and I'd be surprised if it was ever intended to be. It's a serial, and you can't try to force it into a novel. Sure you can still make the same complaints, but they don't have the same weight. A serial is supposed to be long, and PH is just able to fill a large number of issues without (I guess arguably) artificially postponing the plot. Likewise, it's not supposed to be telling the story of EC-1101 to Project horizons from Point A to Point D, taking into account a few intermediate stages to slightly hide the linearity, plus three or four sidequests. It's a character piece that explores Blackjack and the wasteland, using EC-1101 to keep from feeling completely directionless but never pulling it before the main focus. If nothing else, it should be compared to something with a similar aim, rather than the standard modern fantasy template.

So that's a unnecessary rant over. Sorry. Shy The fact that I wrote the entire thing probably means I should have been asleep a while ago. Good night/morning/whenever!
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Somber on Thu Jul 25, 2013 7:15 pm

Wow.  Thanks for sharing that.  Now I wonder what Pannic would make of PH... and I'm scared to ask.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by swicked on Thu Jul 25, 2013 8:19 pm

Pannic?

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Post by Frost on Thu Jul 25, 2013 8:20 pm

swicked wrote:Pannic?

 Author of that Liveblog
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by swicked on Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:23 pm

Kay, whatever that is, I can't follow the current chat due to never reading winningverse.
In any case, yes, a serial, not a novel. I think everyone here has pointed that out at one point or another.

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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by WovenTales on Fri Jul 26, 2013 12:19 am

Yeah, we have, but there's a lot of people in other places that don't get that, and the rant was directed at them rather than anyone here. It just seems that they are sometimes able to recognize that PH isn't following the standard story, but rather than (at least trying to) like it for what it is, they condemn it for being original. Sorry, just find that really annoying. Plus I get rather wordy when I'm tired.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Overlong Analysis Cobalt on Fri Jul 26, 2013 1:33 am

WovenTales wrote:Yeah, we have, but there's a lot of people in other places that don't get that, and the rant was directed at them rather than anyone here. It just seems that they are sometimes able to recognize that PH isn't following the standard story, but rather than (at least trying to) like it for what it is, they condemn it for being original. Sorry, just find that really annoying. Plus I get rather wordy when I'm tired.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by ARoundCorner on Fri Jul 26, 2013 2:17 am

I, for one, really enjoy BJ and co.'s side adventures.
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Luminous Lead on Fri Jul 26, 2013 4:29 am

ARoundCorner wrote:Saw Batman... thought of Project Horizens...

The Black Lance Rises

 Must've been really happy to see her.

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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Harmony Ltd. on Fri Jul 26, 2013 12:42 pm

Somber wrote:Wow.  Thanks for sharing that.  Now I wonder what Pannic would make of PH... and I'm scared to ask.
The question I think is : how would you take negative criticism if the arguments were to be thought out and not superficial ?
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Somber on Fri Jul 26, 2013 1:38 pm

I love criticism.  Criticism is how writers grow.  The only one criticism I don't need is that the story is too long.  Believe me, that one I know.
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Post by Harmony Ltd. on Fri Jul 26, 2013 1:49 pm

I suppose so, yes. :D

Well then, maybe you could ask him to have an eye on your fic once he's done with FoE ? It would be interesting to have a perspective from outside the FoE "fandom".
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Post by Frost on Fri Jul 26, 2013 1:52 pm

He's done with FoE now. The newest chapters are him reading other fics.
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Post by swicked on Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:01 pm

...okay, so, is Pannic some popular guy, then?

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Post by Frost on Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:06 pm

He seems to have a few regular commentators, at least. From what I can tell, he seems quite perceptive. I've just about read the whole liveblog
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Re: [GRIMDARK] Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons Discussion

Post by Valikdu on Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:26 pm

He's actually reading Pink Eyes and Murky N7 in some of the newer entries. He likes them so far.


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Post by swicked on Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:30 pm

He likes Pink Eyes?

Yeah, no, I don't think I will be reading his blog...

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